Westside Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Respect has nothing to do with that. It's a guess to start the bidding. I'm not a gambler. Don't really care about what the line is. I'm not that impressed with Baltimore tbh. I think we have an outstanding chance to beat them at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Buffalo beat Tennessee who was 2-2 at the time and is now 7-5. Buffalo beat Dallas who was 6-5 at the time, and is now 6-6. It can be argued the Bills beat one team with a winning record or two teams with a winning record. However, none is an incorrect answer. well...when the bills officially beat dallas -dallas was 6-6.It was simultaneous. when the bills officially beat TENN --TENN was 2-3. just playing games with numbers though of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Tcali said: well...when the bills officially beat dallas -dallas was 6-6.It was simultaneous. when the bills officially beat TENN --TENN was 2-3. just playing games with numbers though of course. no, just no. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Tcali said: well...when the bills officially beat dallas -dallas was 6-6.It was simultaneous. when the bills officially beat TENN --TENN was 2-3. just playing games with numbers though of course. That's kind of a negative way at looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Can some point to a good on line site to place a bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Respect has nothing to do with that. It's a guess to start the bidding. How are they way overrated? I'll play. Their D looks ok, but not scary. Can be ran on as we saw today. They also look very beatable if Jackson isn't breaking out on big plays. Stay disciplined and keep the TE's from getting catches in the middle of the field. I'm not scared of Ingram either. Good team, but Jackson running the ball is the only scary part about them. Bills should be feeling confident with 10 days rest and a good gameplan to keep Jackson in check. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) So the 49ers give up 2 extra points per game than the Bills and were on the road at the Ravens and lost by 3. The Ravens are at Buffalo and while I can see being favored ... really thinking 6.5 is VERY high. Edited December 1, 2019 by CorkScrewHill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: You don’t bet favorites on moneyline as @stevestojan said, plentry of folks do 32 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Well @plenzmd1 my guess was close very nice 15 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Value is low of course. You’re right. But I gamble allot (I live in NJ and can gamble right on my phone). Since I gamble regularly I’m in it for the long haul, not one big payoff. But I absolutely understand your point. I gamble a lot to, have have just the opposite approach of you. Not saying one is right and one is wrong, just different approaches. Hitting big dog moneylines keeps me in the game long term, and putting small bets on some moneyline parleys with all dogs has been very profitable for me this year( although very unprofitable last year LOL). Have hit two at better than 25-1 this year, and today just freaking missed an 82-1 parley when tucker hit that kick(Steelers, Skins, Bengals, 9ers) . Again no right and no wromg, different approaches that both require discipline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tcali said: we still havent beat anyone with a winning record( u could argue the nuances of the math in beating dallas). i think beating the teams you are supposed to beat is a big part of being a winning franchise. so kudos to buff for that. But Buffalo still hasnt earned complete respect yet.They have a lot of proving to do. Tennessee^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 They beat NE and San Fran. I have no issue with the opening spread. I think the Bills can challenge them, but totally see why Vegas went with the number it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tcali said: we still havent beat anyone with a winning record( u could argue the nuances of the math in beating dallas). i think beating the teams you are supposed to beat is a big part of being a winning franchise. so kudos to buff for that. But Buffalo still hasnt earned complete respect yet.They have a lot of proving to do. Well except for Dallas and Tennessee. 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: no, just no. Trolls gonna troll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, westside2 said: I'm not a gambler. Don't really care about what the line is. I'm not that impressed with Baltimore tbh. I think we have an outstanding chance to beat them at home. 13 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: I am going on record that we kick their butts, this Baltimore team is way overrated. They are the highest scoring team in the NFL. They have thrown for the most TDs. They have run for the most TDs. They are 5th in lowest points allowed. They are 3rd in fewest rushing yards allowed. They are +8 in T/O ratio. They have beaten the 2 best Defenses in the NFL. (and 2 of the best teams). What are you guys not impressed by? LOL, these takes... 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: So the 49ers give up 2 extra points per game than the Bills and were on the road at the Ravens and lost by 3. The Ravens are at Buffalo and while I can see being favored ... really hinting 6.5 is VERY high. They’ve got to get money on Buffalo, hence the spread. Ravens have won 8 in a row, with wins vs SF and NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 That dwarf they have @ QB is going down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 32 minutes ago, westside2 said: Still no respect for the Bills. Points spreads/ money lines are set to maximize money placed on bets. It reflects the national perception of teams in gamblers minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: Points spreads/ money lines are set to maximize money placed on bets. It reflects the national perception of teams in gamblers minds. Like I said, still no respect for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The way the Ravens have been playing and beating opponents, they deserve respect, but................... there is absolutely no question the Bills can win this game. None. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: as @stevestojan said, plentry of folks do very nice I gamble a lot to, have have just the opposite approach of you. Not saying one is right and one is wrong, just different approaches. Hitting big dog moneylines keeps me in the game long term, and putting small bets on some moneyline parleys with all dogs has been very profitable for me this year( although very unprofitable last year LOL). Have hit two at better than 25-1 this year, and today just freaking missed an 82-1 parley when tucker hit that kick(Steelers, Skins, Bengals, 9ers) . Again no right and no wromg, different approaches that both require discipline So how you feel about Bills ML +under for a two teamer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 47 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I was wondering if the Ravens had lost today and both teams were coming in 9-3, where the line would be... -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: So how you feel about Bills ML +under for a two teamer? my gut is i will have no action on the Bills except for a perfunctory $50 or so on the moneyline...but that's just a fan bet, not an educated bet. And i never play totals, so i am of less than zero use there LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, plenzmd1 said: my gut is i will have no action on the Bills except for a perfunctory $50 or so on the moneyline...but that's just a fan bet, not an educated bet. And i never play totals, so i am of less than zero use there LOL. I’m thinking about a big play on Bills esp if ml opens where I think, plus some of my usual parlays w dogs...I read your betting strat upstream and we play very similarly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, westside2 said: Like I said, still no respect for the Bills. Why do you care what the average football fan, or a bunch of degenerate gamblers think? Buffalo is 8-3-1 or so ATS this year. Use the ignorance to your advantage. Who cares what Bobby Joe, a metal grinder in Birmingham thinks about the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: I'll play. Their D looks ok, but not scary. Can be ran on as we saw today. They also look very beatable if Jackson isn't breaking out on big plays. Stay disciplined and keep the TE's from getting catches in the middle of the field. I'm not scared of Ingram either. Good team, but Jackson running the ball is the only scary part about them. Bills should be feeling confident with 10 days rest and a good gameplan to keep Jackson in check. Jackson breaks out on big plays often--even in terrible weather conditions. He is the spearhead of the best running game in the league against a D that struggles to stop the run. He is completing 67% off his passes and has 25 TD passes against 5 ints. Passer rating of 111. That's not a scary passing stat line?? Not a scary passing game? Ingram is running at 5.2 yards per carry and 9 TD so far. If "keeping their TEs from getting catches" was all it took, then someone would have done it and everyone else would have followed. It's fine to feel confident about the Bills chances at home...but to say it's because some part of the Ravens game "isn't that good" is clearly wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: I’m thinking about a big play on Bills esp if ml opens where I think, plus some of my usual parlays w dogs...I read your betting strat upstream and we play very similarly. Here is a potential angle...have to assume Nantz and Romo doing the game next week( they are late game this week), and believe the Bills are 2-0 as heavy dogs straight up when those two call the game. Hey, its an angle! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Jackson breaks out on big plays often--even in terrible weather conditions. He is the spearhead of the best running game in the league against a D that struggles to stop the run. He is completing 67% off his passes and has 25 TD passes against 5 ints. Passer rating of 111. That's not a scary passing stat line?? Not a scary passing game? Ingram is running at 5.2 yards per carry and 9 TD so far. If "keeping their TEs from getting catches" was all it took, then someone would have done it and everyone else would have followed. It's fine to feel confident about the Bills chances at home...but to say it's because some part of the Ravens game "isn't that good" is clearly wishful thinking. I’d say it’s an efficient passing game but not scary, no. Just now, plenzmd1 said: Here is a potential angle...have to assume Nantz and Romo doing the game next week( they are late game this week), and believe the Bills are 2-0 as heavy dogs straight up when those two call the game. Hey, its an angle! Hey I’ll take some edge where I can find it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: They’ve got to get money on Buffalo, hence the spread. Ravens have won 8 in a row, with wins vs SF and NE. lot of posters not sure how gambling works.... Just now, GoBills808 said: I’d say it’s an efficient passing game but not scary, no. LOL ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I can live with that, but I'm not expecting it. Book it ! they will beat Baltimore, fans need to show some confidence in this team at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Prepare your buttholes and don't jump off the bridge if the game goes the way it seems like it will.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, westside2 said: Like I said, still no respect for the Bills. Almost 20 years of fail doesn’t get erased in one game or even a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: lot of posters not sure how gambling works.... what do you mean by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Niagara Dude said: Book it ! they will beat Baltimore, fans need to show some confidence in this team at home. I don't doubt that the Bills can win, I just don't expect a blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: That dwarf they have @ QB is going down! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Jackson breaks out on big plays often--even in terrible weather conditions. He is the spearhead of the best running game in the league against a D that struggles to stop the run. He is completing 67% off his passes and has 25 TD passes against 5 ints. Passer rating of 111. That's not a scary passing stat line?? Not a scary passing game? Ingram is running at 5.2 yards per carry and 9 TD so far. If "keeping their TEs from getting catches" was all it took, then someone would have done it and everyone else would have followed. It's fine to feel confident about the Bills chances at home...but to say it's because some part of the Ravens game "isn't that good" is clearly wishful thinking. Those passing numbers are a major product of teams giving Jackson open throws. He's not a guy who's gonna carve you up with his passing ability. He's done well finding his TE's over the middle and will make throws while moving around, but the Bills will do fine in this regard. Stop Jackson from killing you with his legs and you have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaxx Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 We all know that Jacksons passing numbers are pumped up due to defenses not knowing how to combat his running ability. That was evident in the Dolphins game. He's a good player but not a good QB. He may beat us saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: Book it ! they will beat Baltimore, fans need to show some confidence in this team at home. Hopefully they don’t all sell their tix on stubhub and turn NEF into Baltimore north. Gonna need a loud crowd for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, plenzmd1 said: what do you mean by this? They are yelling at the oddsmakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: They are yelling at the oddsmakers Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I have a good feeling about next weeks game, I havent seen the game fully but the 20-17 score looks promising for the bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Jackson breaks out on big plays often--even in terrible weather conditions. He is the spearhead of the best running game in the league against a D that struggles to stop the run. He is completing 67% off his passes and has 25 TD passes against 5 ints. Passer rating of 111. That's not a scary passing stat line?? Not a scary passing game? Ingram is running at 5.2 yards per carry and 9 TD so far. If "keeping their TEs from getting catches" was all it took, then someone would have done it and everyone else would have followed. It's fine to feel confident about the Bills chances at home...but to say it's because some part of the Ravens game "isn't that good" is clearly wishful thinking. Don't be scared. It's ok to believe. Stop protecting your feelings Mr. Man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 51 minutes ago, westside2 said: Still no respect for the Bills. You get respect if & when you earn it. The Ravens look Odds on for the SB! Beat THEM to get your respect! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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