Hebert19 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 There are a lot on here that give McDermott a hard time about his in game coaching but I think hes improved dramatically. He has always been able to get the most out of his players and is a phenomenal leader of men...but yesterday showed his in game improvements as well. 1. This D always adjusts during game. They are amazing at getting things right after first drive or a tough first half. 2. He won a challenge. Wow. Ha 3. The challenge he didnt win. It was the right thing to do. Romo was spot on. Who cares about the timeout there. It was close and worth a look as game is over if we got. 4. When to kick and when to go. He knows hauschka is struggling and has been more aggressive as a result. 5. When to call a player out. The move with oliver a few games back has lit a fire. Same with star having less snaps. I for one think hes in the top 3 spots right now for coach of the year. Great work by him. This team is always ready to play. 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I agree about sending a clear message to Star and Oliver. Those two have really stepped up their game and are a big reason our defense is so disruptive. They are forcing more movement upfront and giving our DE's more opportunities. They are also giving Milano and Edmunds chances to pursue to the ball and make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Whatever he said or changed the last 3 games is working wonders. We honestly look like a new team. The defense is getting a ton of pressure and sacks and the offense of firing on all cylinders 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Right now he's gotta be in the discussion for Coach of the Year. In the conversation: Harbaugh, Shanahan, Payton, Tomlin if he wins a few more with those QBs, Belichick - even though he seems like old news, the D is historic right now and though Brady seems pretty mediocre they've still only lost once. The fact that most people underestimate the actual talent on the Bills and assumed the Bills were going to be terrible should play in McDs favor. I think if he beats either the Ravens or the Patriots (granted that's a huge if) and ends up with 11 or 12 wins, he'll be coach of the year. He may get it even if he loses to both, though in that case, I would guess Harbaugh wins it, assuming the Ravens don't lose more than one other game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 In game adjustments? Or a team finally starting to gel? Little bit of both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Someone dunk on me if I'm way off base, but is anyone getting the sense that he treats the first opponent drive of the game a little differently? Not that he want the opponent to score, but is he purposely not dialing up his best stuff as he gathers information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: Someone dunk on me if I'm way off base, but is anyone getting the sense that he treats the first opponent drive of the game a little differently? Not that he want the opponent to score, but is he purposely not dialing up his best stuff as he gathers information? I heard that same sentiment on the WGR post game show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 Agree. We are vanilla and use it to feel out the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Romo was kissing his butt yesterday, so he must be doing some things right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) During the game the announcers were also praising McD for the play of the defense. While not to take away anything from him being the overall leader, I do wonder though how much is actually him vs Fraiser? Obviously if your background is on defense, you're going to spend more time on that side of the ball, but how much in game tweaks are on him (or any coach) vrs coordinators. That's not just true of McD but of all coaches in the league too. I do give McD full credit for the challenge wins and deciding when to go or not go for it on 4th down and other things going on outside the game itself. 30 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: Someone dunk on me if I'm way off base, but is anyone getting the sense that he treats the first opponent drive of the game a little differently? Not that he want the opponent to score, but is he purposely not dialing up his best stuff as he gathers information? It's almost like the reverse of the old Bill Walsh first 15 players are scripped regardless of what happens WRT down and distance, etc. Edited November 29, 2019 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeDudeAtHome Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I said in the 2nd half game day thread yesterday before the half started how I felt confident going in because McDermott does a good job adjusting and getting the team prepared. I felt he would make better adjustments than the Cowboys staff at the half and he sure did. Obviously it's the work the entire coaching staff's putting in but it starts at the top with McDermott. I've picked up from his pressers he's a very smart, detail oriented person. Always talking about technique and strategies. Now that he has the talent it's showing what his coaching philosophy is capable of especially with the coaches and players he surrounds himself with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 That ball spot on Frank Gore was such BS. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Bangarang said: Whatever he said or changed the last 3 games is working wonders. We honestly look like a new team. The defense is getting a ton of pressure and sacks and the offense of firing on all cylinders Play Fearless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, the skycap said: That ball spot on Frank Gore was such BS. Same with the no call on the hit on a sliding Allen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Bangarang said: Whatever he said or changed the last 3 games is working wonders. We honestly look like a new team. The defense is getting a ton of pressure and sacks and the offense of firing on all cylinders He told the team to play fearless. And I think that's been the change. They aren't just playing fearless, but coaching fearless as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Seemed to have worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: It's almost like the reverse of the old Bill Walsh first 15 players are scripped regardless of what happens WRT down and distance, etc. I think most teams have done this on defense since the 90s. The offense scripts plays to test matchups. The defense scripts to hide their real game plan. Edited November 30, 2019 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: He told the team to play fearless. And I think that's been the change. They aren't just playing fearless, but coaching fearless as well. This is probably the biggest, and best change. McD has largely ditched the Jauron-esque play not to lose method of coaching. He still has to get rid of the prevent defense tendencies, but one step at a time I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Let's not forget that HC's can be rookies and go through a learning process as well as a player. I think he's just learning as he goes and it's starting to show. 26 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: This is probably the biggest, and best change. McD has largely ditched the Jauron-esque play not to lose method of coaching. He still has to get rid of the prevent defense tendencies, but one step at a time I suppose. I think the prevent is fine if you have a 3 score lead late in the 4th. That last TD by Dallas was of no consequence. I thought giving up short completions was the right move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 hours ago, 416BillsFan said: Someone dunk on me if I'm way off base, but is anyone getting the sense that he treats the first opponent drive of the game a little differently? Not that he want the opponent to score, but is he purposely not dialing up his best stuff as he gathers information? It really seems that way doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Bangarang said: Whatever he said or changed the last 3 games is working wonders. We honestly look like a new team. The defense is getting a ton of pressure and sacks and the offense of firing on all cylinders better coaching ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Lets face it......Sean McD is the best coach the bills have had since Marv Levy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: This is probably the biggest, and best change. McD has largely ditched the Jauron-esque play not to lose method of coaching. He still has to get rid of the prevent defense tendencies, but one step at a time I suppose. I mean not really, it's smart to play prevent D when you are up 2+ scores halfway through the 4th. I know sometimes it gets scary, and even there are times when it could blow up in your face -- but overall he is playing the odds by going prevent with the lead in the 4th. To say that is wrong I can't agree with. I don't like it as a fan because I don't like seeing Allen get shut down with 8+ minutes left on the clock (run run run + prevent D), but I understand it. It's smart. Edited November 30, 2019 by BillsFan692 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 9 hours ago, 416BillsFan said: Someone dunk on me if I'm way off base, but is anyone getting the sense that he treats the first opponent drive of the game a little differently? Not that he want the opponent to score, but is he purposely not dialing up his best stuff as he gathers information? That what the great ones do. Mcdermott is a schemer. Belichick does the same thing. People forget that our coach is growing too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 57 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Let's not forget that HC's can be rookies and go through a learning process as well as a player. I think he's just learning as he goes and it's starting to show. I think the prevent is fine if you have a 3 score lead late in the 4th. That last TD by Dallas was of no consequence. I thought giving up short completions was the right move. I agree that HC's go through rookie learning curves and that is what we've seen from McD the past two years. Hopefully he's coming around. The late TD by Dallas may have been of no consequence, but do you see Belichick, Carroll, Payton, or Harbaugh doing the same? Not usually, and they're not afraid to blow out another team. This is the type of mindset that I would like to see McD acquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: I mean not really, it's smart to play prevent D when you are up 2+ scores halfway through the 4th. I know sometimes it gets scary, and even there are times when it could blow up in your face -- but overall he is playing the odds by going prevent with the lead in the 4th. To say that is wrong I can't agree with. I don't like it as a fan because I don't like seeing Allen get shut down with 8+ minutes left on the clock (run run run + prevent D), but I understand it. It's smart. Why is the prevent D smart? I honestly cannot see how that is. You also eluded to taking your foot off the gas on offense (run, run, run, punt). If you play a conservative offense halfway through the 4th, as well as a prevent D, you're inviting the opponent back in the game. Super Bowl winning coaches tend not to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Lets face it......Sean McD is the best coach the bills have had since Marv Levy And its not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: That what the great ones do. Mcdermott is a schemer. Belichick does the same thing. People forget that our coach is growing too Good point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFan692 said: I mean not really, it's smart to play prevent D when you are up 2+ scores halfway through the 4th. I know sometimes it gets scary, and even there are times when it could blow up in your face -- but overall he is playing the odds by going prevent with the lead in the 4th. To say that is wrong I can't agree with. I don't like it as a fan because I don't like seeing Allen get shut down with 8+ minutes left on the clock (run run run + prevent D), but I understand it. It's smart. I don't think we've lost a game from this position either. As in it hasn't backfired. Edited November 30, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: This is probably the biggest, and best change. McD has largely ditched the Jauron-esque play not to lose method of coaching. He still has to get rid of the prevent defense tendencies, but one step at a time I suppose. I have noticed a difference in execution since the 'fearless' call. I've noticed players playing better since then. I've noticed great defence and more blitzing and the offence also getting way better. Under mcdermott Ive noticed more 4th down calls this season. I hadn't noticed this change you mention from the 'jauron esque' play not to lose coaching that you mention? Could you elaborate? I wouldn't call him jauron like at all as a person but if defensive/cautious is what you mean as a coach I'm not sure I've seen a huge change in that philosophy? Edited November 30, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, london_bills said: I have noticed a difference in execution since the 'fearless' call. I've noticed players playing better since then. I've noticed great defence and more blitzing and the offence also getting way better. Under mcdermott Ive noticed more 4th down calls this season. I hadn't noticed this change you mention from the 'jauron esque' play not to lose coaching that you mention? Could you elaborate? I wouldn't call him jauron like at all as a person but if defensive/cautious is what you mean as a coach I'm not sure I've seen a huge change in that philosophy? Look at the past three weeks games against Miami, Denver, and Dallas. Compare those to the Cleveland, Philly, and Cincy games; night and day difference in his approach both on offense and defense. The Jauron-esque comment was largely directed toward the defense, though also on offense with his approach to JA being a game manager (don't make mistakes) to allowing Josh to be a more attacking type QB (which he naturally is.) Jauron also ran a very vanilla d-line scheme with not much stunting or blitzing; McD largely followed suit that past two years. McD has adopted a more aggressive defense the past few weeks, something he was reluctant to do in the past, where he tended to rely largely on coverage (which is what Jauron did.) So, I think that is a significant change in philosophy. This should be noticeable. I do hope McD stops with his prevent D when he gets a 10-14 point lead, as well as his run, run, run, punt go-in-a-shell offensive tendency; this only invites the opponent back in the game. I don't think Jauron and McD are the same person, just that they have a tendency to be very conservative/cautious. I do think McD is a much better coach and prepares his team in a manner Jauron did not do. Maybe McD is still learning how to be a successful NFL coach and working through growing pains like a rookie player would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I mean, it's been a LONG time - but we finally have the holy triumvirate of champions: a smart GM, a franchise QB, and a great coach. Yesterday was such a big test: national TV, huge audience, down by 7 to a desperate team. Watching how McD and Allen both stepped up and had perhaps the best games of their professional careers made me feel very confident about how this team will be come playoff time, when the lights & noise get jacked up to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, ganesh said: better coaching ? More 5-man rushes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 It really seems like he gets a feel for what the opposing team is doing offensively on the first couple of drives then completely adjusts then goes from there. Maybe that's just what my brain is thinking tho idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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