Locomark Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, SCBills said: I do get it, but at some point, even if it’s not completely Foster’s fault, we need to see production from him. We know Josh’s strength are those 10-20 yard darts, which seems to be an area we could utilize a big bodied WR like Duke. Of course, if “play fearless” changes the dynamic and we finally see the big play ability back in this offense, then I certainly won’t be questioning Foster over Duke anymore. I wonder if someone who really studied the all22 could comment on Duke’s ability to gain separation. When I sporadically focused on him, he wasn’t usually open and that is why I think he is likely riding the pine. I would guess he doesn’t dress again today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) This is more less the game where my expectations can be proven right, or wrong. I’ve maintained an expectation that the offense will get on track and will preform like a playoff team down the stretch allowing us to go 11-5 and make the playoffs easily. This is the first step in that expectation. The timing is right coming off an embarrassing loss, the motivation seems to be there based on what we’re hearing internally, and the opponent is a great launching point. I won’t be doom and gloom if it doesn’t happen, but if we don’t show efficiency this week on Offense I will have a harder time defending my 11-5 gut feeling- even if we win. Im hoping to be very happy with what they show! 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Get it big man! 3 sacks! Let’s go! Edited November 17, 2019 by whatdrought 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Last week I was very hesitant all day about the game... I knew we could win, but it didn’t feel great... today, I feel great. Could be nothing, could be gas, or it could be an omen for the ass-whopping of the century! Let’s go!!!! Bills by 30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: If we don’t play fearless today, I see quips for days, weeks, years even I honestly don't take a lot of stock in "play fearless." Remember when we had EJ and all we heard was "let it rip." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Jamie Nails said: If we don’t play fearless today, I see quips for days, weeks, years even I’ll believe the playing feerless quote when he trusts Josh to throw a bomb that can be caught even if it can be picked. I’ll believe the playing feerless quote when we actually use play action on 3rd and 2 instead of handing the ball to Gore for no gain. I’ll believe the playing feerless quote when we run blitz on first down against an inferior opponent. I’ll believe the playing feerless quote when McD mandates that Singletary gets 17-25 touches per game. Right now his culture is talking about culture. Winners take action and stop talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Oh good. Another week of prioritizing special teams “talents” such as Sinorise Perry and Julian Stanford who offer virtually nothing to their side of the ball, over guys that can help the anemic offense such as Yeldon and Duke. Stoked! I get the Perry thing, but Stanford is basically the only backup LB on the roster...and he's actually pretty solid. There were times last season in which he outplayed Edmunds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if Method Man O’Reilly or GZA mcMullen will play? #peoplenamedafterwutangmembers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Last week I was very hesitant all day about the game... I knew we could win, but it didn’t feel great... today, I feel great. Could be nothing, could be gas, or it could be an omen for the ass-whopping of the century! Let’s go!!!! Bills by 30! I don’t know that I’ve heard the motivation and focus that I’ve heard this past week after the Cleveland loss from these players and coaches. It seemed like they finally realized that playing safe can blow up in their faces. It easy to stay the course at 6-2, but that loss, it seems, opened their eyes. We may not have the elite offensive talent of Cleveland or KC, but we have a decent OL, a stud young RB and a lot of speed with a QB who can make every throw in the book. The ingredients are there to, at least, be a middle of the pack offense that is capable of some explosive games. Edited November 17, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: I get the Perry thing, but Stanford is basically the only backup LB on the roster...and he's actually pretty solid. There were times last season in which he outplayed Edmunds. Agreed. I think a lot of people forget that there are three aspects to a football team and that special teams is actually pretty darn key. I wish that Duke and/or TJ were more effective on special teams in order to get them on to the game day roster, but they aren’t and you need to have players to play special teams and do it effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JerseyBills Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Is it? Lets look at some teams against the Browns this year BILLS: 41 pass 20 runs SF: 29 pass 40 runs SEA: 33 pass 38 runs NE: 36 pass 27 runs BAL: 34 pass 29 runs Those include QB runs as well. Im not spending the time to separate designed runs vs scrambles. It appears to me that teams are a little more balanced while we went pass heavy. We dropped Allen back 48 times , I believe 1 was a designed run . Our RBs carries the ball 13 times ! In a one score game , unacceptable , mind boggling play calling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Playoff Caliber the mindset has to begin NOW and the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NI Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Duke inactive again... was hoping he could be used a bit today to help the offense. Anyway... GO BILLS! Interested to see if this week's talk translates to a more open offensive performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, JerseyBills said: We dropped Allen back 48 times , I believe 1 was a designed run . Our RBs carries the ball 13 times ! In a one score game , unacceptable , mind boggling play calling. Exactly and this is why I take issue with Daboll. The game plan from week to week just always seems counter productive whether we win or lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Locomark said: I wonder if someone who really studied the all22 could comment on Duke’s ability to gain separation. When I sporadically focused on him, he wasn’t usually open and that is why I think he is likely riding the pine. I would guess he doesn’t dress again today. I did not see him open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, stosh64 said: Hughes active 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, stosh64 said: Kroft, why? DiMarco, why? Perry, why? i could go on, yet, the team doesn’t see fit to bolster its, arguably, worst unit by dressing Williams. McDermott is losing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hughes active Well that's good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Jerry Hughes is active for Miami game https://www.buffalobills.com/news/jerry-hughes-is-active-for-miami-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Can’t believe they aren’t dressing future Bills wall of famer Duke Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Looks overcast, so no real advantage temperature wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: McDermott is losing me. That's a real shame right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 The reality is, on most plays receivers will appear covered. It’s on the QB to “throw them open” the majority of the time. Saying Duke doesn’t get open is only true to an extent, if he (Or any of the other receivers on the roster) had a top shelf QB throwing the ball, those players would be in a better position to succeed (or fail if they’re not up to catching passes in tight quarters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Can’t believe they aren’t dressing future Bills wall of famer Duke Williams I will miss his 4 yard catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Locomark said: I wonder if someone who really studied the all22 could comment on Duke’s ability to gain separation. When I sporadically focused on him, he wasn’t usually open and that is why I think he is likely riding the pine. I would guess he doesn’t dress again today. I don't think he gets a lot of separation. He is a dependable possession receiver. He has 6 catches on 7 targets for 58 yards 9.7 ypc and 1 TD. Doesn't seem like a lot but he hasn't been on the field much and being active almost never. Edited November 17, 2019 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: That's a real shame right there. The only shame is that I’m not alone as someone who was firmly in his corner who has serious concerns. His in game decision making, hands off approach to his OC etc are not helping this team get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said: The reality is, on most plays receivers will appear covered. It’s on the QB to “throw them open” the majority of the time. Saying Duke doesn’t get open is only true to an extent, if he (Or any of the other receivers on the roster) had a top shelf QB throwing the ball, those players would be in a better position to succeed (or fail if they’re not up to catching passes in tight quarters). So that means that great QBs can get by with crap WRs. I don’t buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Let’s Go Bills!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Looks overcast, so no real advantage temperature wise. I live in Palm Beach County. All of Florida got a cold snap last night and it is colder right now (61 degrees) than it has been down here in many months. It's a gray, overcast, cold day here by S. FL standards. I'm sure it will still feel hot to guys already used to cold weather in Buffalo though. Not nearly as hot and humid as it could have been however, which might help us some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Can’t believe they aren’t dressing future Bills wall of famer Duke Williams It just Baffles me Duke or Vincent Taylor don’t get to suit up, but players like Robert Foster and Jaquan are just huge contributors.... I thought WR and DT are pretty weak right now. Besides STs I thought Duke and Taylor have played solid on offense and defense .... Foster hasn’t done anything and Jaquan is like puny and kick coverage. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, Cripple Creek said: The only shame is that I’m not alone as someone who was firmly in his corner who has serious concerns. His in game decision making, hands off approach to his OC etc are not helping this team get better. And if they win to go to 7-3 will you still have "concerns?" By the way, "concern" has become the most overused word in the history of this board this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: I live in Palm Beach County. All of Florida got a cold snap last night and it is colder right now (61 degrees) than it has been down here in many months. It's a gray, overcast, cold day here by S. FL standards. I'm sure it will still feel hot to guys already used to cold weather in Buffalo though. Not nearly as hot and humid as it could have been however, which might help us some. So the Fins will be wearing long sleeves today?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Do the Bills come out with a killer instinct or do we see another knuckle biter today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: The reality is, on most plays receivers will appear covered. It’s on the QB to “throw them open” the majority of the time. Saying Duke doesn’t get open is only true to an extent, if he (Or any of the other receivers on the roster) had a top shelf QB throwing the ball, those players would be in a better position to succeed (or fail if they’re not up to catching passes in tight quarters). Watch guys like Rodgers and Brady throw completions. Sometimes the receiver is literally perfectly, tightly covered the entire time and it still doesn't matter. The ball goes where it has to for the catch and it only has to sneak in that tiny window for a fraction of a second for the defender to not be able to break it up. Brady completed about 10 million passes to Gronk like this over the years. Plays where he was basically never open at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, Locomark said: So that means that great QBs can get by with crap WRs. I don’t buy it. It means great QBs elevate the level of play of those around them. You’d get greater production out of those “covered” WRs with a better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Perry active but not Duke?? Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I wonder if Method Man O’Reilly or GZA mcMullen will play? #peoplenamedafterwutangmembers Hahaha.....I was thinking along the same lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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