******* Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just heard on wgr that if both bills and Steelers win Sunday they have same playoff probability . Thiught that was interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The WC spot isn’t clinched yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 6/2 vs 4/4. OP, you shouldn’t regurgitate fake news. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Probabilities blah. Get to 10 wins you are in without help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Got to fix the issue with run defense from last week and get the next win Sunday. Game at a time 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Chill said: 6/2 vs 4/4. OP, you shouldn’t regurgitate fake news. they were talking about some Playoff Leverage tool ESPN has put there. And wasn’t same Odds just same increase in odds according to that tool Edited October 31, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chill said: 6/2 vs 4/4. OP, you shouldn’t regurgitate fake news. We do play each other - so that would give them the head 2 head. They also would have a shot at their division with the ravens. Our division is not in play really so... we only have wild card odds 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chill said: 6/2 vs 4/4. OP, you shouldn’t regurgitate fake news. You have to factor in that the prediction is based in part on the Steelers being favored at home to beat the Bills and thus getting the head-to-head advantage. The Bills haven't beaten Pittsburgh in Pitt in decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: You have to factor in that the prediction is based in part on the Steelers being favored at home to beat the Bills and thus getting the head-to-head advantage. The Bills haven't beaten Pittsburgh in Pitt in decades. That is not the OP. He was stating if both teams win THIS week, we have the same playoff probably. Which is ridiculously false. critical thinking skills. 11 minutes ago, dneveu said: We do play each other - so that would give them the head 2 head. They also would have a shot at their division with the ravens. Our division is not in play really so... we only have wild card odds Only prediction from OP is if both teams win this week. Why wouldn’t our division be in play? We are 2 games out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: they were talking about some Playoff Leverage tool ESPN has put there. And wasn’t same Odds just same increase in odds according to that tool Oh, more analytics garbage. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Chill said: That is not the OP. He was stating if both teams win THIS week, we have the same playoff probably. Which is ridiculously false. critical thinking skills. Only prediction from OP is if both teams win this week. Why wouldn’t our division be in play? We are 2 games out. Assuming the ravens lose... and the patriots win after this week. That would put them 1 game back and us 2 and 1/2 games back from NE. The chance of them winning their division is higher than ours at that point. They have a better chance to win division, and at 4-4 would still have a fairly good shot at a WC because they would have beaten the colts to put them at 5-3. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, dneveu said: We do play each other - so that would give them the head 2 head. They also would have a shot at their division with the ravens. Our division is not in play really so... we only have wild card odds 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Assuming the ravens lose... and the patriots win after this week. That would put them 1 game back and us 2 and 1/2 games back from NE. The chance of them winning their division is higher than ours at that point. They have a better chance to win division, and at 4-4 would still have a fairly good shot at a WC because they would have beaten the colts to put them at 5-3. Stop talking sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 36 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Probabilities blah. Get to 10 wins you are in without help. it hasn't happened often, but there are some 10 win teams that missed the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 just win baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The Steelers schedule looks pretty inviting (Colts at home, Rams at home, 2 v. Cleveland, Cincinnati, Arizona, Buffalo at home, Jets and Ravens) and the Bills are looking at a 4 game stretch including @Dallas on Thanksgiving, Baltimore, @Pittsburgh, @ New England. Let's say for the sake of argument the Bills lose all of those games because any one of those game would represent the first time McClappy won any game like that. That gives them 6 losses and no tie breaker v. either Baltimore or Pittsburgh. They'd need win every other game on the schedule in that scenario to avoid 9-7. 9-7 puts you in bad situations with Pittsburgh or Baltimore or both. No hiccups, no bad days, no squandered opportunities. Nothing. You feel good about a week 17 game v. the Jets on a 4 game losing streak knowing that if you lose the loser of the Ravens/Steelers game that day has the tiebreaker over you and will probably knock you out? Yeah I didn't think so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said: it hasn't happened often, but there are some 10 win teams that missed the playoffs. there has but not with the way the AFC unfolded this year. Get to 10. And you are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Oh, more analytics garbage. Got it. thats 98 percent of the conversation in sports fans these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: there has but not with the way the AFC unfolded this year. Get to 10. And you are in. I think that's right. No one else beside the Bills and Pats in the AFC East is going to get to 10, and I feel the same way about the AFC West beyond KC. The AFC Central will be its usual clusterf**k with 4 teams finishing within two games of 8-8. The only teams with a chance of getting to 10 wins in the AFC Central are Baltimore and Pitt, and the latter is 3-4 with a fairly unimpressive young QB. He's going to lose them a couple of games at least. Edited October 31, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) In case anyone wanted to know this is what Schopp was talking about 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I think that's right. No one else beside the Bills and Pats in the AFC East is going to get to 10, and I feel the same way about the AFC West beyond KC. The AFC Central will be its usual clusterf**k with 4 teams finishing within two games of 8-8. The only teams with a chance of getting to 10 wins in the AFC Central are Baltimore and Pitt, and the latter is 3-4 with a fairly unimpressive young QB. He's going to lose them a couple of games at least. yep and the South is just going to beat themselves up as well. 10 wins gets you in. 9 wins and you may need a little help. Edited October 31, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Maff is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Chill said: 6/2 vs 4/4. OP, you shouldn’t regurgitate fake news. ...LMAO....he used the wrong flash cards.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I think that's right. No one else beside the Bills and Pats in the AFC East is going to get to 10, and I feel the same way about the AFC West beyond KC. The AFC Central will be its usual clusterf**k with 4 teams finishing within two games of 8-8. The only teams with a chance of getting to 10 wins in the AFC Central are Baltimore and Pitt, and the latter is 3-4 with a fairly unimpressive young QB. He's going to lose them a couple of games at least. The latter lost to 7-0 San Francisco, 6-2 Seattle, and 5-2 Baltimore by a combined 9 points. The Bills just lost to the previously 3-4 Eagles by 18 points. But yes, stay cocky. The Bills will win 10 games. No problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) I'm actually surprised it's not a greater increase for the Steelers in that situation. They're playing a team that would be in direct competition for them for that spot, while we play an NFC team. Lol at everyone ignoring the "playoff odd INCREASE" aspect of this, while breathing through their mouths and screeching that it claims we have the same total chance. Hate stats all you want, but at least hate what they claim, and not something you made up because you're too lazy to read entire whole sentences! Edited October 31, 2019 by arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: You have to factor in that the prediction is based in part on the Steelers being favored at home to beat the Bills and thus getting the head-to-head advantage. The Bills haven't beaten Pittsburgh in Pitt in decades. I was gonna argue that we beat them in playoffs and then realized that was 25 years ago. Man I am getting old 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: The latter lost to 7-0 San Francisco, 6-2 Seattle, and 5-2 Baltimore by a combined 9 points. The Bills just lost to the previously 3-4 Eagles by 18 points. But yes, stay cocky. The Bills will win 10 games. No problem. The Bills have the easiest schedule I've ever seen. They have five quite bad teams on tap: Miami, the Jets, the Redskins, Denver, and the Browns. They also have to play one great team on the road, 1 pretty good team at home (Baltimore), and one so-so team with a very inexperienced QB who looks to be about as generic as it gets (Rudolph). I think Miami, the Jets, the Redskins, and Denver are locks. The Browns is a winnable game but tougher, although the Bills have far better coaching. Pittsburgh has to play Indy, the Rams, and the Ravens. They also have AZ on the road, and AZ is not bad. The Bills are more likely to get to ten wins than Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Assuming the ravens lose... and the patriots win after this week. That would put them 1 game back and us 2 and 1/2 games back from NE. The chance of them winning their division is higher than ours at that point. They have a better chance to win division, and at 4-4 would still have a fairly good shot at a WC because they would have beaten the colts to put them at 5-3. Get your head out of the clouds my man. This is just in hypothetical outer space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Chill said: Get your head out of the clouds my man. This is just in hypothetical outer space. Pittsburgh absolutely has a better chance of winning their division than the Bills. Do you REALLY think that the Pats' chances of winning the AFC East aren't effectively 99+%? The Ravens haven't won more than 10 games since 2011. The Patriots haven't won less than 11 games since 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I couldn’t care less about the Ravens since 2011 Past performance has no control on present or future events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: I couldn’t care less about the Ravens since 2011 Past performance has no control on present or future events So you think the Bills have an equal or better chance of winning the division as the Steelers? If I were a betting person, I would literally bet the farm that the Patriots are going to win the division. I would not bet the farm on Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: So you think the Bills have an equal or better chance of winning the division as the Steelers? If I were a betting person, I would literally bet the farm that the Patriots are going to win the division. I would not bet the farm on Baltimore. Put 5k down. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 hour ago, coloradobillsfan said: it hasn't happened often, but there are some 10 win teams that missed the playoffs. There have been 11 win teams that have missed the playoffs. In 2008, the 11-5 Pats lost the division to Miami and the final WC to the Ravens on tie-breakers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, dneveu said: We do play each other - so that would give them the head 2 head. They also would have a shot at their division with the ravens. Our division is not in play really so... we only have wild card odds All divisions are in play until it's clinched. Who knows, maybe Brady gets hurt. Maybe Gilmore gets hurt. Maybe that defense gets exposed by a game plan and the Pats offense isn't the terror it once was. Maybe they lose to Baltimore, KC and Buffalo. Probably not, but stranger things have happened and that's why we play 16 games. The Bills may go 12-4 or they may go 8-8. What if they win out or lose out. Chances are neither but no one knows until it's over. Of course, the only thing that is 100% is that we all hope and pray for a Patriot demise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 42 minutes ago, SoTier said: There have been 11 win teams that have missed the playoffs. In 2008, the 11-5 Pats lost the division to Miami and the final WC to the Ravens on tie-breakers. ...which was an anomaly if you consider Cassell led the charge with Brady out for the year........didn't the Seahawks make it one year at 7-9?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: You have to factor in that the prediction is based in part on the Steelers being favored at home to beat the Bills and thus getting the head-to-head advantage. The Bills haven't beaten Pittsburgh in Pitt in decades. last time was what, 1992 Playoffs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: The Bills have the easiest schedule I've ever seen. They have five quite bad teams on tap: Miami, the Jets, the Redskins, Denver, and the Browns. They also have to play one great team on the road, 1 pretty good team at home (Baltimore), and one so-so team with a very inexperienced QB who looks to be about as generic as it gets (Rudolph). I think Miami, the Jets, the Redskins, and Denver are locks. The Browns is a winnable game but tougher, although the Bills have far better coaching. Pittsburgh has to play Indy, the Rams, and the Ravens. They also have AZ on the road, and AZ is not bad. The Bills are more likely to get to ten wins than Pittsburgh. @Miami is no way a lock. We go there with Fitzy still trying to get their first win, it will probably be against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...which was an anomaly if you consider Cassell led the charge with Brady out for the year........didn't the Seahawks make it one year at 7-9?............. Yes they did in 2010 in Pete Carroll's first season as HC. They were the division champs. Tim Tebow led the 8-8 Broncos to the 2011 AFCW title and actually won their WC game on an 80 TD pass to Demaryus Thomas in OT. They got their clocks cleaned the next week by NE, 45-10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, ******* said: Just heard on wgr that if both bills and Steelers win Sunday they have same playoff probability . Thiught that was interesting They are both 2 games back of division lead and lost to their division leader. so winning the division they could have similar odds if you say buffalo can easily win next weekend at Clevrland with New England on bye. buffalo is 2games ahead of the wild card spots now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 so you "Thiught that was interesting " ... thats "inturesting" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Well if they assumed Pittsburgh beats Buffalo in their analysis, then they get the head to head tie breaker. So the odds at that point start to look closer. Now what that doesn't take into account is Steelers QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Buffalo and Pittsburgh are similar teams. Good defenses with average offenses. Will be a tough game down there. I can see them totally shutting down Allen with that 3-4 zone blitzing scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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