RyanC883 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: We could go 15-1 and still get the 5th seed with the Pats in our division. Damn playoff seeding needs to change where four division winners make playoffs but then slots 1-6 are allocated by record. wait, you can't get the #2 seed w/o winning a division? That is totally insane. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, Augie said: Having all the weapons is great, but it looked like a different sport when Matt Moore entered the game. Like going from US Open tennis to back yard badminton. I don’t think he signed up to do any more than hold a clipboard! SURPRISE!!! We need to set up a badminton net for the next tailgate. Every time the shuttlecock lands on the ground...a shot of Jack Daniels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Fitz averaged over 400 yards a game during a 3 game stretch for the Bucs in during the start of 2018. If Fitz can do it , Moore can ? Fitzpatrick has 5 >400 yd games over a 5 year span with 2 teams. He has 17 games >300 yds over a 13 year span with (I think) 6 teams of the 8 he's played with. Matt Moore has 1 (one) >300 yd game over a 12 year career. In other words, Bad comparison. No Tuna 4 U 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Not to sound insensitive, and this is terrible for Mahomes and those who like watching him play, but: 1. Who is the leader for league MVP now? My guess is Wilson. 2. In fantasy, I just got Hill back, now this! (and AJ still languishing on my bench). I know, pity me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We need to set up a badminton net for the next tailgate. Every time the shuttlecock lands on the ground...a shot of Jack Daniels. You’re a trouble maker, you know that right? OK, I’m in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: Not to sound insensitive, and this is terrible for Mahomes and those who like watching him play, but: 1. Who is the leader for league MVP now? My guess is Wilson. 2. In fantasy, I just got Hill back, now this! (and AJ still languishing on my bench). I know, pity me I think Wilson is comfortably ahead right now. He's having an pretty incredible season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, H2o said: Go figure, the Pats even control the "Madden Curse". Skips Brady of course and comes right on back for everyone else. Skips Brady only because his wife Giselle is a witch and used her black magic!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Not to sound insensitive, and this is terrible for Mahomes and those who like watching him play, but: 1. Who is the leader for league MVP now? My guess is Wilson. 2. In fantasy, I just got Hill back, now this! (and AJ still languishing on my bench). I know, pity me Wilson is the lead at this point for MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: You’re a trouble maker, you know that right? OK, I’m in! We should probably bring an IV bag as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Fitzpatrick has 5 >400 yd games over a 5 year span with 2 teams. He has 17 games >300 yds over a 13 year span with (I think) 6 teams of the 8 he's played with. Matt Moore has 1 (one) >300 yd game over a 12 year career. In other words, Bad comparison. No Tuna 4 U Haha. Well the point I was trying to make is that Fitz was tearing it up for a short while when he had weapons on Tampa Bay. Why can't Matt Moore can't do the same? In past , he has been on teams that haven't had a stellar cast of offensive talent I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Were we watching the same Flacco last night? He looked like a corpse. No pocket movement, no ability to avoid any kind of rush, a few average passes, and his body language showed he had completely given up after the first quarter. Sure he had a few drops, but he was a trash bag last night. Yeah I thought Flacco looked done. He wasnt getting much help from his O line to be fair, but very little urgency or much at all for him SOOOOOO glad John Elway felt secure enough in *checks notes* Case Keenum.... to pass on talents like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think Wilson is comfortably ahead right now. He's having an pretty incredible season. I think given what he has around him, he was ahead of Mahomes, but Mahomes would have won due to better numbers, etc. I don't get to watch many Sea games, but when I do, he's amazing to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Haha. Well the point I was trying to make is that Fitz was tearing it up for a short while when he had weapons on Tampa Bay. Why can't Matt Moore can't do the same? In past , he has been on teams that haven't had a stellar cast of offensive talent I believe. Moore's most playing time was in 2011 with Miami. He had Brandon Marshall and Reggie Bush in their primes. His sole 300+ game was 2010 with Carolina. He had Steve Smith and Brandon LaFell. My point is, when you got a guy who has consistently produced 300+ yard games over more than a decade with different talent levels on different teams, he's probably got more talent than someone who racks up one (1). Like way more, and it isn't close. I live in St Louis. I remember Fitzpatrick's first game as a rookie. The team sucked, the scheme was designed to get the QB killed, and 'ol Fitz lit the place on fire in a comeback win on the road. Fitzpatrick's problem is not his peak level of play (which can roll with just about anyone), it's his inconsistency. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I think given what he has around him, he was ahead of Mahomes, but Mahomes would have won due to better numbers, etc. I don't get to watch many Sea games, but when I do, he's amazing to watch. MVP is not necessarily based on who has the best overall numbers. The year Cam won the MVP, he was like the 4th or 5th best QB based on numbers ? 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Moore's most playing time was in 2011 with Miami. He had Brandon Marshall and Reggie Bush in their primes. His sole 300+ game was 2010 with Carolina. He had Steve Smith and Brandon LaFell. My point is, when you got a guy who has consistently produced 300+ yard games over more than a decade with different talent levels on different teams, he's probably got more talent than someone who racks up one (1). I live in St Louis. I remember Fitzpatrick's first game as a rookie. The team sucked, the scheme was designed to get the QB killed, and 'ol Fitz lit the place on fire in a comeback win on the road. Fitzpatrick's problem is not his peak level of play (which can roll with just about anyone), it's his inconsistency. No argument from me that Fitz probably has more talent than Matt Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, prissythecat said: MVP is not necessarily based on who has the best overall numbers. The year Cam won the MVP, he was like the 4th or 5th best QB based on numbers ? Good call. I looked it up. 7th in Passer Rating. It was a tacit recognition by the league that passer rating doesn't capture some key contributions of a dual-threat QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We should probably bring an IV bag as well. And a bucket....don’t ask, but I might need a bucket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Mahomes could go out there on crutches and still be better than half the QBs in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Augie said: And a bucket....don’t ask, but I might need a bucket. to Kick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Yeah I thought Flacco looked done. He wasnt getting much help from his O line to be fair, but very little urgency or much at all for him SOOOOOO glad John Elway felt secure enough in *checks notes* Case Keenum.... to pass on talents like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson John Elway is proof that a good QB doesn’t make a good QB scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hopefully for the Chief’s sake Sammy comes back soon to even things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: John Elway is proof that a good QB doesn’t make a good QB scout. Wait, did he not win a SB not so long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good call. I looked it up. 7th in Passer Rating. It was a tacit recognition by the league that passer rating doesn't capture some key contributions of a dual-threat QB. It was also the fact that he scored 45 TDs and led the #1 offense in the league after losing his top wideout for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Wait, did he not win a SB not so long ago? With a team that was not good offensively. And it doesn't take a "QB scout" to know that Peyton Manning is a good QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It was also the fact that he scored 45 TDs and led the #1 offense in the league after losing his top wideout for the season. And they went 15-1 and were the top seed in the NFC. That helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Conlan58 said: Where is that thread that people were asking to see the qb run injury numbers with qb sneaks taken out of the designed run category? Looks like Mahomes is good for the next 235 designed runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Wait, did he not win a SB not so long ago? Probably the only reason why he still has a job. He signed an aging Peyton who still had just enough left in the tank to get the job done. Other than that one signing, his QB record has been abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 A) Mahomes is good for the game. B) KC dominating the AFC West is a good thing for the Bills; I don't see why anyone would be happy with a muddied division as it means more competition for us, because we'll likely be vying for a Wildcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Flacco could NOT give Bledsoe a run for his money.....now.................. Succo may suck, but he’s not brain dead like Drew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Moore and Fitz two highest paid QB's in the NFL next year? Well, it is that point in the Fitzmagic cycle... Rosen benched, Fitz gets starting job.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Probably the only reason why he still has a job. He signed an aging Peyton who still had just enough left in the tank to get the job done. Other than that one signing, his QB record has been abysmal. So no credit for signing Peyton Manning or being the decision maker for a SB champion, and he only has a job because he won the SB. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: Well, it is that point in the Fitzmagic cycle... Rosen benched, Fitz gets starting job.... Fitz needs to go to NE next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: We could go 15-1 and still get the 5th seed with the Pats in our division. Damn playoff seeding needs to change where four division winners make playoffs but then slots 1-6 are allocated by record. I have been saying this for years, the current system makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 One another note, Flacco is done. His line gave up. He was just going through the motions out there. By the third quarter, he was like "whatevs." Looked like a drunk Frankenstein in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It was also the fact that he scored 45 TDs and led the #1 offense in the league after losing his top wideout for the season. The two are the same statement. Newton scored 10 rushing TDs and racked up 636 rushing yards. Those were significant contributions to the #1 offense in the league, but they are not captured in the NFL's passer rating. As I said " It was a tacit recognition by the league that passer rating doesn't capture some key contributions of a dual-threat QB." 1 minute ago, Just in Atlanta said: One another note, Flacco is done. His line gave up. He was just going through the motions out there. By the third quarter, he was like "whatevs." Looked like a drunk Frankenstein in the pocket. He probably was drunk by that point - Punch-drunk. If I wanted to see human beings abuse each other unimpeded like that I would watch Boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The two are the same statement. Newton scored 10 rushing TDs and racked up 636 rushing yards. Those were significant contributions to the #1 offense in the league, but they are not captured in the NFL's passer rating. As I said " It was a tacit recognition by the league that passer rating doesn't capture some key contributions of a dual-threat QB." He probably was drunk by that point - Punch-drunk. If I wanted to see human beings abuse each other unimpeded like that I would watch Boxing. Was he? He just takes sacks and doesn't even try. Aikman is right--he's so casual in the pocket. If he just tried to avoid the rush, he would've avoided a few of those sacks. Bizarre display by the Broncos offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frostbitmic Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Besides Matt Moore the only other QB on the Chiefs is rookie and practice squad player Kyle Shurmur. It just might be time for the Chiefs to sign Kaepernick lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Probably the only reason why he still has a job. He signed an aging Peyton who still had just enough left in the tank to get the job done. Other than that one signing, his QB record has been abysmal. I thought it was mainly the defense that got it done IMO. Payton wasn't all that good that season but their defense was on fire. 26 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: So no credit for signing Peyton Manning or being the decision maker for a SB champion, and he only has a job because he won the SB. Got it. If I remember correctly Peyton was also benched at one point that season, or it may have been the one before, either way he did not have a good year that season if I remember correctly. Think he was benched for Brock O. if I'm not mistaken. Don't remember how many games it was though. But it was mainly the defense that got them there. Edited October 18, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The two are the same statement. Newton scored 10 rushing TDs and racked up 636 rushing yards. Those were significant contributions to the #1 offense in the league, but they are not captured in the NFL's passer rating. As I said " It was a tacit recognition by the league that passer rating doesn't capture some key contributions of a dual-threat QB." He probably was drunk by that point - Punch-drunk. If I wanted to see human beings abuse each other unimpeded like that I would watch Boxing. True, and that Broncos offense was the most lethargic and uninterested looking team I’ve seen all year. Pretty depressing for Broncos fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: True, and that Broncos offense was the most lethargic and uninterested looking team I’ve seen all year. Pretty depressing for Broncos fans. Wasn't that the truth. Flacco looked totally disinterested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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