StHustle Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 But we used the PS exemption on him so now we can't. Not saying we would have if we could have or that he is quite ready for real NFL ball yet but with Singletary's injury it would have been an interesting consideration. With all the confusion on the rules of these International guys I never saw this scenario mentioned. The Pats, who are always playing 4D chess, didn't use the roster exemption on their guy and just activated him a few hours ago. So there we have it. FB Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I feel like everybody already knew this 12 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, r00tabaga said: I feel like everybody already knew this Everyone but OP 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, StHustle said: But we used the PS exemption on him so now we can't. Not saying we would have if we could have or that he is quite ready for real NFL ball yet but with Singletary's injury it would have been an interesting consideration. With all the confusion on the rules of these International guys I never saw this scenario mentioned. The Pats, who are always playing 4D chess, didn't use the roster exemption on their guy and just activated him a few hours ago. So there we have it. FB Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player So tell me again who is playing 4D chess... the team that doesn’t need to activate a guy who isn’t ready because they actually have enough depth to let an international player develop on the PS? Or the other team? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So tell me again who is playing 4D chess... the team that doesn’t need to activate a guy who isn’t ready because they actually have enough depth to let an international player develop on the PS? Or the other team? You know how we do around here. Assume every move Pat's make is 4D chess. Not always understandable by our feeble minds. Even signing Antonio Brown and releasing him after one game was somehow a 4D chess move. Wake up YOLO. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, StHustle said: But we used the PS exemption on him so now we can't. Not saying we would have if we could have or that he is quite ready for real NFL ball yet but with Singletary's injury it would have been an interesting consideration. With all the confusion on the rules of these International guys I never saw this scenario mentioned. The Pats, who are always playing 4D chess, didn't use the roster exemption on their guy and just activated him a few hours ago. So there we have it. FB Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player Not really a good thing for the Pats*. James Devlin is out with a neck injury (week to week) and is being replaced by this guy. One less experienced guy to pick up blitzes in pass protection. If the Bills have to sign someone to replace Singletary for a while Marcus Murphy is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Everyone but OP I feel special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 He isn't ready. Why put him on the roster and then maybe have to dump him due to injuries in other areas for only someone to scoop him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Not really a good thing for the Pats*. James Devlin is out with a neck injury (week to week) and is being replaced by this guy. One less experienced guy to pick up blitzes in pass protection. If the Bills have to sign someone to replace Singletary for a while Marcus Murphy is the way to go. Absolutely. Because if they sign a guy from the PS they have to keep him on the 53 for 3 weeks Edited September 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Absolutely. Because if they sign a guy from the PS they have to keep him on the 53 for 3 weeks Then if Wade busted a couple big ones that would put the Bills in a tough spot. Wouldn't wanna lose em. I believe we've already seen Murphy's celling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Absolutely. Because if they sign a guy from the PS they have to keep him on the 53 for 3 weeks Replacing Brown with this guy. BB is playing checkers (King me)! Devlin being out for next week would be a big if it works out that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, StHustle said: But we used the PS exemption on him so now we can't. Not saying we would have if we could have or that he is quite ready for real NFL ball yet but with Singletary's injury it would have been an interesting consideration. With all the confusion on the rules of these International guys I never saw this scenario mentioned. The Pats, who are always playing 4D chess, didn't use the roster exemption on their guy and just activated him a few hours ago. So there we have it. FB Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player Dude we’ve been OVER THIS. Like a million times. Close your thread u dingbat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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todd Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, StHustle said: But we used the PS exemption on him so now we can't. Not saying we would have if we could have or that he is quite ready for real NFL ball yet but with Singletary's injury it would have been an interesting consideration. With all the confusion on the rules of these International guys I never saw this scenario mentioned. The Pats, who are always playing 4D chess, didn't use the roster exemption on their guy and just activated him a few hours ago. So there we have it. FB Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player What are you talking about? Wade was clearly not ready in terms of playbook, philosophy, and football knowledge. He doesn't know how to pick up the blitz or read defenses like an NFL player. The PS exemption was the best thing to do for him, by ensuring nobody could put them on their PS or team, and allowing the Bills to develop him more. Putting him on the roster or not using the exemption would have exposed him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, StHustle said: You know how we do around here. Assume every move Pat's make is 4D chess. Not always understandable by our feeble minds. Even signing Antonio Brown and releasing him after one game was somehow a 4D chess move. Wake up YOLO. Don't forget giving the Bills a pick for essentially nothing. 5D Chess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, StHustle said: But we used the PS exemption on him so now we can't. Not saying we would have if we could have or that he is quite ready for real NFL ball yet but with Singletary's injury it would have been an interesting consideration. With all the confusion on the rules of these International guys I never saw this scenario mentioned. The Pats, who are always playing 4D chess, didn't use the roster exemption on their guy and just activated him a few hours ago. So there we have it. FB Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player That exemption also keeps others from signing him off our PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, todd said: What are you talking about? Wade was clearly not ready in terms of playbook, philosophy, and football knowledge. He doesn't know how to pick up the blitz or read defenses like an NFL player. The PS exemption was the best thing to do for him, by ensuring nobody could put them on their PS or team, and allowing the Bills to develop him more. Putting him on the roster or not using the exemption would have exposed him. Can you all please stop with your facts and logic and stuff?!? Excuse me for finding any reason to bring up Wade. I got good feelings on this guy's future here. I think he is the next Fred Jackson. They both started on the practice squad! Both played in Europe!! Ummmm...they both are running backs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 52 minutes ago, StHustle said: But we used the PS exemption on him so now we can't. Not saying we would have if we could have or that he is quite ready for real NFL ball yet but with Singletary's injury it would have been an interesting consideration. With all the confusion on the rules of these International guys I never saw this scenario mentioned. The Pats, who are always playing 4D chess, didn't use the roster exemption on their guy and just activated him a few hours ago. So there we have it. FB Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player I mentioned it a couple of dozen times at least. You need to pay more attention to what I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, StHustle said: Jakob Johnson is now the first official player make an NFL roster through the program. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27669130/pats-activate-first-international-pathway-player Wrong. After his exemption year, Efe Obada has made the Panthers 53 for consecutive years. Perhaps the article refers to the Patriots specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: I feel like everybody already knew this That’s because everybody already knew this... Go Bills!!! Edited September 22, 2019 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Dean Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Wrong. After his exemption year, Efe Obada has made the Panthers 53 for consecutive years. Perhaps the article refers to the Patriots specifically? Correct! I can only imagine they didn't include him because he had previously been signed to the Jags practice squad? Or you may be right and they only think about the Pats* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 If I started this thread, you wouldn't see me for a good 20 days. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Wrong. After his exemption year, Efe Obada has made the Panthers 53 for consecutive years. Perhaps the article refers to the Patriots specifically? 8 minutes ago, The Dean said: Correct! I can only imagine they didn't include him because he had previously been signed to the Jags practice squad? Or you may be right and they only think about the Pats* WRONG. He was already in the NFL with several teams before the program even existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, StHustle said: WRONG. He was already in the NFL with several teams before the program even existed It's always good to be very confident when you are wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efe_Obada Quote On May 25, 2017, Obada was signed by the Carolina Panthers,[15] through the new NFL's International Player Pathway program, that guaranteed him a position on the team, after it granted an 11th practice squad slot to all four NFC South clubs (the division was selected in a random draw),[16] so they could sign an international player. As part of the program conditions, he was ineligible to be promoted to the 53-man roster during the regular season. He was waived by the Panthers on September 1, 2017, and was re-signed to the practice squad.[17][18] He signed a reserve/future contract with the Panthers on January 8, 2018.[19] After a strong preseason, Obada became the first player from the NFL International Pathway program to make a 53-man roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Dean said: It's always good to be very confident when you are wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efe_Obada Around here they call that the StHustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Around here they call that the StHustle. Do the StHustle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Dean said: Do the StHustle? YES! Edited September 22, 2019 by Cripple Creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Dean said: It's always good to be very confident when you are wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efe_Obada He doesn't count. From NFL.com: In 2018, Efe Obada became the first player from the International Pathway Program to make a 53-man roster with the Carolina Panthers, but he didn't initially enter the NFL through the program. He had signed as a free agent with the Cowboys in 2015 after playing only five games of amateur football with the London Warriors, then was on the Cowboys practice squad before spending time in the 2016 offseason with the Chiefs and Falcons. In 2017, Obada was part of the first class of players in the International Pathway Program, which gave him additional time to develop with the Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) According to this article it seems as though Jordan Mailata also made a 53 man roster via the IPP program. But he was drafted in the 7th round: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Player_Pathway 2 minutes ago, StHustle said: He doesn't count. From NFL.com: In 2018, Efe Obada became the first player from the International Pathway Program to make a 53-man roster with the Carolina Panthers, but he didn't initially enter the NFL through the program. He had signed as a free agent with the Cowboys in 2015 after playing only five games of amateur football with the London Warriors, then was on the Cowboys practice squad before spending time in the 2016 offseason with the Chiefs and Falcons. In 2017, Obada was part of the first class of players in the International Pathway Program, which gave him additional time to develop with the Panthers. As I mentioned in my first post in the thread, perhaps he isn't counted because he signed with several teams and was on the Jags practice squad at one. But he is the 1st player from the program to make an NFL roster. That is not in dispute. Both Odaba and Mailata were IPP players and made a teams 53 man roster. You can discount the way they came into the program, but the facts speak for themselves. Edited September 22, 2019 by The Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Kill me now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Make that three previous players from the IPP program who have made it to 53 man rosters prior to Johnson: https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/2019-INTERNATIONAL-PLAYER-PATHWAY-PROGRAM--PARTICIPANTS-TO-SHOWCASE-SKILLS-AT-PRO-DAY-IN-TAMPA.aspx Obada, Mailata and Böhringer. Both Mailata and Böhringer were drafted. So perhaps Johnson is the first participant of the IPP program to be both placed with a team (not via FA or draft) and had not had previous NFL experience. That's a mouthful. Maybe if Wade makes it he can be the first IPP participant of the IPP program to be both placed with a team (not via FA or draft) and had not had previous NFL experience and isn't a cheating Patriot*. 5 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: Kill me now. I can send you a link for someone who can take care of that. You use TOR, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dean said: Make that three previous players from the IPP program who have made it to 53 man rosters prior to Johnson: https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/2019-INTERNATIONAL-PLAYER-PATHWAY-PROGRAM--PARTICIPANTS-TO-SHOWCASE-SKILLS-AT-PRO-DAY-IN-TAMPA.aspx Obada, Mailata and Böhringer. Both Mailata and Böhringer were drafted. So perhaps Johnson is the first participant of the IPP program to be both placed with a team (not via FA or draft) and had not had previous NFL experience. That's a mouthful. Maybe if Wade makes it he can be the first IPP participant of the IPP program to be both placed with a team (not via FA or draft) and had not had previous NFL experience and isn't a cheating Patriot*. If any of the formers are former rugbyers I think Wade is disqualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, Gugny said: If I started this thread, you wouldn't see me for a good 20 days. Haha!! I LOL’d! IRL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: If any of the formers are former rugbyers I think Wade is disqualified. I think the issue here is Johnson was probably the first to not be used as the 11th man exemption on the PS. So he is clearly the first from the program to be called up from the PS in that first year. Just my guess of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 On this board, it's "could of". Get it straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: If I started this thread, you wouldn't see me for a good 20 days. Can you please start a thread like this? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 This thread...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 This topic was well-thrashed through at roster cutdown 6 hours ago, Codyny13 said: Kill me now. No. 7 hours ago, Gugny said: If I started this thread, you wouldn't see me for a good 20 days. Promises, promises 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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