reddogblitz Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: Otherwise there still wouldnt be any free agency. another of my minority opinions perhaps, but the game was better before free agency.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I think the kicking game should be eliminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Harrison Phillips is not a good player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Jim Kelly was, is and always will be over-rated. come at me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: another of my minority opinions perhaps, but the game was better before free agency.. It was certainly easier to build teams...simply draft enough good players and keep them as long as you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I believe owners should be appreciated, since there are many investments that are more profitable than owning an NFL team. I believe there is too much trading in the NFL. The roster can change completely over about three years. That detracts from the ability to cheer for a team, you’re basically cheering for a logo. I have mixed feelings about fantasy football. It’s fun, but it completely changes the game day experience. People are checking their web sources to find out how their fantasy team is doing, and not living in the moment with their “favorite” team. I give TB12 credit, he is willing to take less money personally so that the team can be better. When he gets mad at his offensive line, at some level he could be thinking that he is partially responsible for their big salaries, and that makes his frustration a little more personal and understandable. It doesn’t hurt that his wife is also super rich. I believe football will suffer from a loss in popularity in the next few years, based on the seriousness of brain injuries and the loss in popularity at the high school level. NASCAR is an example of a “sport” that lost popularity as its fan base changed or got old. Constantly tweaking the rules doesn’t help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Reading silly threads on the main board that belong on OTW. just saying .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 When will the Bills just get rid of Shady? How long must they hold on? If he has any trade value they should move along from a replaceable, 9 million dollar, old, perhaps brittle running back before he falls apart and is worthless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, freddyjj said: Lamonica over Kemp at QB Rob Johnson over Flutie Cutting Fred Jackson was a good move Ok I am ready for the Witness Protection Program. For point 3, your federal handlers will probably whack you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I think the kicking game should be eliminated. I'd get rid of PATs totally. I'm fine with punting and FGs but PATs are not working to my mind. I'd just give people 7 points for a TD. If you really want to keep the 2 pointer option available then I'd have a 1 point try to get it into the endzone from the 2 yard line as you do now for a 2 pointer and a 2 point try you have to get it in from the 5 or something. 2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: When will the Bills just get rid of Shady? How long must they hold on? If he has any trade value they should move along from a replaceable, 9 million dollar, old, perhaps brittle running back before he falls apart and is worthless. When they have someone better. And they don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I think the kicking game should be eliminated. Based upon some opinions expressed here lately, I thought that the team was in the process of doing so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: 1. Marv Levy does not belong in HOF. He was worse than Brandon as a GM 2. Talley does not belong on Wall 3. I love Thurman, but OJ is still the best RB in Bills history. Bruce Smith is greatest Bill ever 4. If Bills played in NFC, the SuperBowl teams would have been lucky to make one 5. Kaepernick is better than 28 of the 32 backup QBs and probably better than three starters - Fitz, Eli(at this point in career), and Keenum 6. Tom Flores and Don Coryell belong in the HOF. Tasker and Hull do not. 7. Dick Jauron was better than most people think. Team played hard for him, rarely were blown out like the current HC is on a frequent basis, often had his team in a position to compete, and was handicapped as much as any HC by lack of talent at QB. What cost him was playing not to lose down the stretch of games instead of going for the knockout. Thank you for a brave post. I vehemently disagree with 4,5, and especially 7 but I got your back every day on #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 My "unpopular" takes are: - the International Series is good for the game and a London team would be in the long term too; - the game is not poorer for being safer; - I have no problem with the players using their platform to take a stand on social issues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: When they have someone better. And they don't. But we are not 100% sure of this, ya know; especially if his old ass is sitting on the bench injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 My idea was that Andrew Luck had not and would not live up to the overhyped expectations of him. Although based in logic and facts, this idea proved to be quite unpopular. It has now proven true. Despite this truth, it will probably remain unpopular. Cults gonna cult. I have another popular idea on this board but it is unrelated to football. My current take on the Bills is that they will be a 11 or 12 win team. Although unusual, I doubt it would be unpopular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Augie said: Not whatever they want, but I certainly lean toward the owner’s side. I am not fond of those who think the employees have all the rights. If you’re so good, go find a better deal, or a better job. Like a house, you are only worth what someone will pay for you. . You do understand that there isn’t a true open market for NFL players, right? What “rights” do you think the players have asserted that they don’t deserve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, OJ Tom said: Steve Tasker is overrated. You're talking about him as a player, correct? Because the threads about him as radio host are none to flattering. If you're talking about him on radio I would say he's underrated, kind of like his show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: When will the Bills just get rid of Shady? How long must they hold on? If he has any trade value they should move along from a replaceable, 9 million dollar, old, perhaps brittle running back before he falls apart and is worthless. This is where I am. Seems like a good team mate, but is really a shell of his young self. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: This is where I am. Seems like a good team mate, but is really a shell of his young self. Nice! I was bracing for an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 My unpopular opinion is that I always felt that Trent Edwards could have had a long career as an above average, but not elite starting qb if he had the right coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gray Beard said: I believe owners should be appreciated, since there are many investments that are more profitable than owning an NFL team. Ok, name a few. Ralph Wilson bought the Bills for what, $50,000? I’ll grant you that buying a team today, at current prices, is risky, but these guys have had a license to print money for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, freddyjj said: Rob Johnson over Flutie It took me longer than it should have to let go of Rob Johnson. I was flat out mesmerized by his skillset. He was big, could run like a deer, had a great arm, and was very accurate. The only thing that he didn't do well was play football. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Nice! I was bracing for an attack. Well I’m not gonna attack you but let’s not pretend like it’s been years of futility for McCoy. He had a bad year in an awful offense behind and awful line. 8 months prior to that he was arguably the best player on the field down in Jax in a playoff matchup. It’s not like they been dragging the guy along for YEARS. Come on man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Real Colts fans would never give up season tickets because of this Andre Reed is in my hall of fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, bmur66 said: Andre Reed is in my hall of fame He shouldn't be. Outside of Bruce, I don't believe ANY of those guys should be in the HoF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: But we are not 100% sure of this, ya know; especially if his old ass is sitting on the bench injured. But he isn't injured. In fact he has missed very few games injured since his first year. He has missed 3 games in the last 3 years which is pretty good going for any running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: He shouldn't be. Outside of Bruce, I don't believe ANY of those guys should be in the HoF. Maybe Andre Reed's HOF worthiness is debatable but who else would you rather have catching passes over the middle? RAC Edited August 27, 2019 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, bmur66 said: Maybe Andre Reed's HOF worthiness is debatable but who else would you rather have catching passes over the middle? RAC Maybe Andre Reed's HOF worthiness is debatable but who else would you rather have catching passes over the middle? RAC Just sticking to his era? Jerry Rice. Steve Largent. Cris Carter, to name a few 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, mannc said: Ok, name a few. Ralph Wilson bought the Bills for what, $50,000? I’ll grant you that buying a team today, at current prices, is risky, but these guys have had a license to print money for a long time. I meant buying a team today, at current prices. Maybe I'm wrong, but if the Pegulas, for example, end up building a new stadium, then that will be an expensive undertaking. Even if they get subsidized by taxpayer money, It will take a long time to recoup that investment. I also look at the money thrown away on Rex Ryan, etc. Many of us thought that was a dumb decision in the first place, but it was also an expensive decision. Maybe billionaires don’t worry about a few million dollars, but I doubt it. It’s things like that that make me think buying a team today is done for the enjoyment, not for the profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I thought Nathan Peterman would have been a steady QB. A similar career to a Matt Hasselbeck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 EJ was the better option than Orton. At least losing with EJ made sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 9 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Marv Levy sucked as a HC and sucked even harder as a GM. 9 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The second part is unanimous Levy had the title "GM" but he really didn't function as one. Even at the time, commentators noted that he really didn't do anything. Brandon and Jauron actually made the infamous personnel mistakes the Bills made in 2006 and 2007. When Levy retired, he wasn't replaced for 2 seasons -- until after Jauron was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 The NFL is getting increasingly more boring. I still enjoy watching the Bills but outside of that i struggle to make it through full games. Too many stupid rules/penalties, commercials, and injuries. Maybe im just getting cynical in my old age. oh and bad announcers ok im done being negative. i love watching and following the Bills tho. Double edged sword 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Nice! I was bracing for an attack. Haha— I am sure you will get it from someone. To be honest, And this is more extreme, I haven’t thought Shady Has been productive for us at all in any of his years here (and least moreso than any other RB would have been). Some of that may be the line, but a lot of it is his style and his age. I am sure someone will disprove me with “stats” or some similar nonsense. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Haha— I am sure you will get it from someone. To be honest, And this is more extreme, I haven’t thought Shady Has been productive for us at all in any of his years here (and least moreso than any other RB would have been). Some of that may be the line, but a lot of it is his style and his age. I am sure someone will disprove me with “stats” or some similar nonsense. ? That person won't be me. I've been saying he looks like he's lost a step since early last year. I'd have cut him this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Reading silly threads on the main board that belong on OTW. just saying .... Every point was about football, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, M. Wrotto said: Darryl Talley was more of an impact player than Biscuit. Interesting take, decided to look at their impact plays. Both had 14 year careers. For the regular season, Biscuit had 71-1/2 sacks, 31 forced fumbles, 27 fumble recoveries, and 7 interceptions. Talley had 38-1/2 sacks, 17 forced fumbles, 14 fumble recoveries, and 12 interceptions. Those numbers clearly favor Biscuit. Doesn't look like tackles for loss stats were kept during Talley's career, only the last two in Biscuit's. In the playoffs, in 21 games Biscuit had 1-1/2 sacks, no int', forced fumbles or fumble recoveries. Talley played in 18 playoff games, had 6-1/2 sacks and 2 int's. He also had 2 fumble recoveries. So, for the regular season Biscuit was more of an impact player, but for the biggest games you are correct, Talley had a bigger impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Haha— I am sure you will get it from someone. To be honest, And this is more extreme, I haven’t thought Shady Has been productive for us at all in any of his years here (and least moreso than any other RB would have been). Some of that may be the line, but a lot of it is his style and his age. I am sure someone will disprove me with “stats” or some similar nonsense. ? The year with Roman was pretty impressive. I think it took brains to know when to cut and hit the variety of gaps created. So for just that year, I disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Virgil said: Every point was about football, no? you asked for an unpopular idea. I think I proved my point Quote This is both random and probably stupid, Tyrod Taylor took the Bills to the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: you asked for an unpopular idea. I think I proved my point Tyrod Taylor took the Bills to the playoffs. You got me there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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