nucci Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) https://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-nfl-owners-pitch-18-game-schedule-but-with-players-restricted-to-16-games-181138369.html but with players restricted to 16 games seems kinda ridiculous Edited July 12, 2019 by nucci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Yup, dumb; pure greed from some of the richest men in the country. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Mister Defense said: Yup, dumb; pure greed from some of the richest men in the country. How do you force a team to play it's backup QB? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I can understand the basis for this... Grow the pie with $2.5B more in revenue without forcing the players to take on more safety risk. The owners win and the players (who share in the pie) also win. I could see this passing as both sides of the negotiation walk away with more money. The only losers are the fans who watch teams with a different roster every week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, nucci said: How do you force a team to play it's backup QB? Indeed. It’s a dumb, compromised proposal and bad for the fans. There is a rumor going around that this bad idea may be tweaked to carve out an exception for QBs, however, since they are more protected than other positions by existing rules. Still, it’s a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) So as a season ticket holder, do i get a discount to watch Matt Barkley take on Geno Smith? They would also need to expand the rosters since you may have guys who are injured and cant play but you have to sit a starter Edited July 12, 2019 by Captain Hindsight new thought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just do away with preseason games, increase roster size by 8-10 players and go to 18 games 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: Yup, dumb; pure greed from some of the richest men in the country. And you expected what? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, nucci said: How do you force a team to play it's backup QB? You put it in the rules. However, that part is just to appease the players, who do not want to play in more games than they do currently. Of course, they wanted almost no practice time, no two-a days, don’t want to play in preseason etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, nucci said: https://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-nfl-owners-pitch-18-game-schedule-but-with-players-restricted-to-16-games-181138369.html but with players restricted to 16 games seems kinda ridiculous Tone-deaf, tin-eared and just plain dumb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: So as a season ticket holder, do i get a discount to watch Matt Barkley take on Geno Smith? No that is the same as the preseason ripoff for season ticket holders. The NFL doesn’t care about ticket sales the way they do tv eyeballs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, nucci said: https://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-nfl-owners-pitch-18-game-schedule-but-with-players-restricted-to-16-games-181138369.html but with players restricted to 16 games seems kinda ridiculous It would be interesting to see how teams handle their starters. It's also an incredibly stupid idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I think it would be awesome! I have long advocating higher seed should get to pick their opponent in the playoffs in all sports. You thing teams are motivated by the "nobody respected us" card now..wait until the starting QB sits against the other team. Plus, think of the strategy involved..do you sit all your starters one game to get essentially another bye and just eat the L? Does a team like the Bills go the road against the Pats and say..fug it,we aint winning , lets everyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Boatdrinks said: You put it in the rules. However, that part is just to appease the players, who do not want to play in more games than they do currently. Of course, they wanted almost no practice time, no two-a days, don’t want to play in preseason etc etc. I meant from a fans and players perspective...you want your best playing every game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, nucci said: I meant from a fans and players perspective...you want your best playing every game Sure, but again the players don’t want to work more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: We would be facing Brady's backups probably twice year, that would be fun to watch. There is no way that the star players sit out for Divisional match ups, even if one team has been stealing the other's lunch money for the past 20-years. The weakest rosters will be reserved for inter-conference games, that don't count as playoff tiebreakers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Shrug. I like it. Removes two crappy preseason games and replaces it with two meaningful games. Pro football is incredibly taxing on players. This gives a chance to for injured players to heal up mid season. That's safer for the players AND the team to protect the player long term. Helps make the team/player make smarter decisions on whether to play a guy or not any given week. I agree on the QB exemption though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: I think it would be awesome! I have long advocating higher seed should get to pick their opponent in the playoffs in all sports. You thing teams are motivated by the "nobody respected us" card now..wait until the starting QB sits against the other team. Plus, think of the strategy involved..do you sit all your starters one game to get essentially another bye and just eat the L? Does a team like the Bills go the road against the Pats and say..fug it,we aint winning , lets everyone! If I was a coach I'd just play all my starters the first 16 games because of injury potential. Then let the chips fall as they may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 does it absolutely positively have to be an even number? a 17 game regular season (dropping 1 preseason game to 3 games which it essentially is now anyway) seems like a reasonable compromise. and it would not necessitate adjusting the current nfl scheduling much since preseason week 4 would become regular season week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: relax, i was being facetious. We are not going to be one of their two weakest opponents this years, even nothing else the Dolphins. I'm relaxed and I understood that you were being facetious. If the league goes this way, I think the strategies for how teams use their healthy scratches will be interesting to see how it plays out. Do you take your lumps and mail it in against the league powerhouses? Do you wait for injuries to happen and then adjust in the second half? Do rookies sit out the first two weeks to get more practice in before they play their first game? This change will influence how teams build rosters as teams with depth will have an advantage over teams with the salary cap concentrated into a few players. Do you want one elite WR with three No. 3's or four No. 2's where your 4th WR is 3rd on the depth chart six times per year? 1 minute ago, coloradobillsfan said: does it absolutely positively have to be an even number? a 17 game regular season (dropping 1 preseason game to 3 games which it essentially is now anyway) seems like a reasonable compromise. and it would not necessitate adjusting the current nfl scheduling much since preseason week 4 would become regular season week 1. I saw a proposal with 17 games where every team plays one game at a neutral site. With all of the games played in England and Mexico City, this could work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 18 games will not fly with the Player's Association. If the two parties settle on an 18 week season, with 2 bye-weeks, I can see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If I was a coach I'd just play all my starters the first 16 games because of injury potential. Then let the chips fall as they may. and that could be on strategy...be interesting to see what other people might do. Timing is one problem to me. Labor Day is problematic for both TV ratings and attendance, althouh I would love it.Maybe this pushes the schedule so that the SuperBowl is Presidents day weekend every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Abysmal idea. Expand playoffs and reduce preseason if you want but not this trash. 16 game max through and 18 game season? What the fudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 If you want a longer season just add more bye weeks, maybe a wild card play-in round too. (But definitely dump 2 preseason games.) 16 games is long enough for players' bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Terrible idea. Two games of the season you are FORCED to keep your best players on the bench, and FORCED to play backups? Imagine being in the midst of a playoff race... and league rules forbid you to play your starting QB. This concept is a recipe for disaster in so many ways. Change is not always a good thing. The NFL had a perfect formula 20-25 years ago. But they keep tinkering with stuff that doesn't need to be messed with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, nucci said: Just do away with preseason games, increase roster size by 8-10 players and go to 18 games That would not help if same players are not active. Many games at end of year become basically preseason games because teams have clinched playoff spots or they are out of playoffs. In both cases teams want to protect players (aka Tyler) from injuries for different reason. If I was league I'd offer it since players are getting larger amount of money but they want in return to cut down on the appeals on suspensions for certain violations. The ones who really would be hurt would be those who are in 2nd and 3rd suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I can’t comprehend how an 18 game schedule with 2 buys and only 2 preseason games wouldn’t be enough compromise for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: If you want a longer season just add more bye weeks, maybe a wild card play-in round too. (But definitely dump 2 preseason games.) 16 games is long enough for players' bodies. I wish they would add more bye weeks and have scheduling rules that one of them for every team would be before Thursday night game so no short weeks. I'd also like more of the overseas games on Thursdays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Sure, but again the players don’t want to work more. No one does unless you are being paid more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: No one does unless you are being paid more. Except they would since players get percentage of revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I wish they would add more bye weeks and have scheduling rules that one of them for every team would be before Thursday night game so no short weeks. I'd also like more of the overseas games on Thursdays. they would be starting at 2 am there?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, plenzmd1 said: they would be starting at 2 am there?????? Did not mean England game. Meant games like Mexico, etc, those in US and west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 The timing of this should tell you everything...they're pitching it so that they have something to "give" in the next round of CBA negotiations. They know that the NFLPA won't go for it, but as long as they put it on the table, they can concede it and say that they gave something up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Did not mean England game. Meant games like Mexico, etc, those in US and west. Quote I'd also like more of the overseas games on Thursdays. Did not know Mexico and the US was overseas? Had to do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Goodell Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This is one of many ideas we are evaluating as the league explores ways to expand the availability of our games to its fan base while maintaining our high standards for both player safety and quality of our product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: The timing of this should tell you everything...they're pitching it so that they have something to "give" in the next round of CBA negotiations. They know that the NFLPA won't go for it, but as long as they put it on the table, they can concede it and say that they gave something up. If they wanted it they would need to pitch it early so I do not see this as a strawman proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Except they would since players get percentage of revenue. Correct. More televised games = more revenue. Bottom line, the quality of the game has decreased since they pretty much did away with practice. The players want to do as little as possible outside of actual games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Crazy idea. How do you justify sitting guys? Need to add more playoff games. That’s where the money is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Limeaid said: If they wanted it they would need to pitch it early so I do not see this as a strawman proposal. True. they have been talking about this for a few years already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, aristocrat said: Crazy idea. How do you justify sitting guys? Need to add more playoff games. That’s where the money is That is where the EXTRA money is for players participating in playoffs but lets us expand playoffs into tournament where all teams play. #1 plays #16, #2 plays #15, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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