KellyToTasker Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/01/report-superdome-to-undergo-450-million-renovation/ The Saints reached a deal for renovations on their stadium, the deal will afford the Saints a home through 2035, $450 million total ($150 by the Saints). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 They will rip the tourists like crazy! Hotels, meals, rental cars, possibly a dedicated airport departure tax, and anything else they can think of. There is an oil/gas presence there, but not too much manufacturing. My wife & I had dinner in Williamsburg VA., and I noticed that their tax on meals is over 13%. I expect the hotels are the same. On the one hand they want tourists to visit/spend, then they don't miss a beat in running up your tab. Not a lot of "infrastructure" improvements going on there either. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) End zone field level box suites? edit: just looked at photos of these in a couple of stadiums around the league. Never noticed this was a thing. Edited May 2, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven50 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) Just in NOLA a week ago. Pretty shocked at the state of their roads, way worse then Buffalo even after a heavy winter, some of the side streets were nothing but gravel Edited May 2, 2019 by steven50 comma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Interesting. Superdome is pretty outdated right now, so the cost is perhaps relevant to the NEF situation. Very different stadium designs though, so that would have impact on cost to renovate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Never been, so I have no idea what the stadium is like, but 300 mil from the government on a renovation feels a little shortsighted. 15 extra years of usability does not feel very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Don't forget it needs to double as a hurricane shelter... Maybe some of the improvements might be along those lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said: They will rip the tourists like crazy! Hotels, meals, rental cars, possibly a dedicated airport departure tax, and anything else they can think of. There is an oil/gas presence there, but not too much manufacturing. My wife & I had dinner in Williamsburg VA., and I noticed that their tax on meals is over 13%. I expect the hotels are the same. On the one hand they want tourists to visit/spend, then they don't miss a beat in running up your tab. Not a lot of "infrastructure" improvements going on there either. In Chicago, the hotel tax is over 17%. Tourists don't vote in the city they're visiting and don't really know what things costs in different parts of the country so it's easy to give them the shaft. Edited May 2, 2019 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 We spent that much for our weight room ...? 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 When you get the Super Bowl every 4 or 5 years, this will pay for itself rather quickly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, uticaclub said: When you get the Super Bowl every 4 or 5 years, this will pay for itself rather quickly It keeps the lights on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said: They will rip the tourists like crazy! Hotels, meals, rental cars, possibly a dedicated airport departure tax, and anything else they can think of. There is an oil/gas presence there, but not too much manufacturing. My wife & I had dinner in Williamsburg VA., and I noticed that their tax on meals is over 13%. I expect the hotels are the same. On the one hand they want tourists to visit/spend, then they don't miss a beat in running up your tab. Not a lot of "infrastructure" improvements going on there either. Went thru Carolinas on way to North Myrtle Beach and stopped at a BBQ place. When we got the meal we were surprised on the tax but then they charged a 10% service charge as well (This was a place where you order at counter and pick it up there) and the service charge included service charge on the tax. Told them I'd be going back thru town on way back but not stopping there to this. Good BBQ though. Surprised that they do not have a new stadium built with how some of their very vocal representatives love PSLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 It definitely needs the upgrades. Remember that the Superdome also hosts things like Super Bowls, Final Fours, CFB National Championship games, ect. It's not like Buffalo where they can put it out in the burbs, New Orleans is surrounded by swamps and a giant lake and river, it has to be downtown. Tourists aren't going to stop going there because of a little higher tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, vincec said: In Chicago, the hotel tax is over 17%. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 6 hours ago, steven50 said: Just in NOLA a week ago. Pretty shocked at the state of their roads, way worse then Buffalo even after a heavy winter, some of the side streets were nothing but gravel That’s what happens when you build a city 7 feet below sea level on sandy ground in a rainy climate... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, steven50 said: Just in NOLA a week ago. Pretty shocked at the state of their roads, way worse then Buffalo even after a heavy winter, some of the side streets were nothing but gravel You have NO idea how bad the roads are!! The Association of General Contractors and a bunch of other construction related organizations were lobbying Congress like 2 weeks ago on it. It never passes though. https://www.myarklamiss.com/amp/news/state-news/will-the-roads-get-fixed-hb-542-plans-to-get-it-done/1949361801 6 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Interesting. Superdome is pretty outdated right now, so the cost is perhaps relevant to the NEF situation. Very different stadium designs though, so that would have impact on cost to renovate. They’ve actually poured a ton in recently. 8 hours ago, KellyToTasker said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/01/report-superdome-to-undergo-450-million-renovation/ The Saints reached a deal for renovations on their stadium, the deal will afford the Saints a home through 2035, $450 million total ($150 by the Saints). The saints will ALWAYS acquiesce to the Saints. They have one of (if not the) best deals for a team in all of sports. Edited May 2, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, uticaclub said: When you get the Super Bowl every 4 or 5 years, this will pay for itself rather quickly New Orleans missed out on the Super Bowl in Minnesota because they refused to give into the NFL demands. The NFL mandates that every city has “x number of hotel rooms at y price” and “z number of transportation for a price.” Last time that the Super Bowl was here the hotels, restaurants, etc... were kind of like “yeah, no” and made a ton of money. The next time that they were bidding they refused to bend to the NFL demands on that so they lost despite being the heavy favorite. @NoSaint knows it much better than me and can hopefully clarify. The Super Bowl is on it’s way back in a couple of years and should ALWAYS be. There isn’t a city in the country better equipped to hold major events than New Orleans. I’m not sure that’s even debatable. The one gripe that you hear is that it’s hard to fly direct to NOLA. The new airport though will be open (MAYBE) by football season. That’s assuming it doesn’t get delayed for the 5,000th time. Other than that, EVERYTHING is in walking distance. Most people that come will never get into a vehicle once they get to their hotel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I've been there twice. It struck me that as a major tourist destination, site of Final Fours, Super Bowls, Mardi Gras, Sugar Bowl every year, in the FBS national championshio rotation, major convention host city on an almost weekly basis, it's still one of the poorest cities in the U.S. It does not make sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Interesting. Superdome is pretty outdated right now, so the cost is perhaps relevant to the NEF situation. Very different stadium designs though, so that would have impact on cost to renovate. Only been to NOLA once. There isn't much land available to build a new stadium that would still be close to the French Quarter. They could tear down the old municipal auditorium. But that is considered an historic building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 9 hours ago, steven50 said: Just in NOLA a week ago. Pretty shocked at the state of their roads, way worse then Buffalo even after a heavy winter, some of the side streets were nothing but gravel There are portions of suburban Detroit/southern Michigan where the townships stop, and it becomes unincorporated; the roads end abruptly and you switch to gravel or dirt in poor conditions. People build huge houses out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: New Orleans missed out on the Super Bowl in Minnesota because they refused to give into the NFL demands. The NFL mandates that every city has “x number of hotel rooms at y price” and “z number of transportation for a price.” Last time that the Super Bowl was here the hotels, restaurants, etc... were kind of like “yeah, no” and made a ton of money. The next time that they were bidding they refused to bend to the NFL demands on that so they lost despite being the heavy favorite. @NoSaint knows it much better than me and can hopefully clarify. The Super Bowl is on it’s way back in a couple of years and should ALWAYS be. There isn’t a city in the country better equipped to hold major events than New Orleans. I’m not sure that’s even debatable. The one gripe that you hear is that it’s hard to fly direct to NOLA. The new airport though will be open (MAYBE) by football season. That’s assuming it doesn’t get delayed for the 5,000th time. Other than that, EVERYTHING is in walking distance. Most people that come will never get into a vehicle once they get to their hotel. I was just in NOLA for JazzFest, I absolutely love that town and can't wait for the new airport, didn't know that was happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, uticaclub said: I was just in NOLA for JazzFest, I absolutely love that town and can't wait for the new airport, didn't know that was happening Should have sent me a message!! I was out at Zurich most of last week. It Jazzfest this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, uticaclub said: I was just in NOLA for JazzFest, I absolutely love that town and can't wait for the new airport, didn't know that was happening Is the new airport at the same location as the current one? If not, where will it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Is this a new airport or a new terminal? I heard of a new terminal. Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport -- New Orleans, USA. Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport is set to see a super-modern terminal open in May 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Should have sent me a message!! I was out at Zurich most of last week. It Jazzfest this weekend. Jazz fest - nice . Too bad the Stones had to cancel though. Crazy that ol’ Keef’s body is like 150 years old, but Mick’s the one who needed heart surgery... go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Jazz fest - nice . Too bad the Stones had to cancel though. Crazy that ol’ Keef’s body is like 150 years old, but Mick’s the one who needed heart surgery... go figure! I wasn’t going to splurge on the Stones tickets. It was a weird money grab by Jazzfest IMO. They added a day, quadrupled the price and sold out in 10 minutes. I guess it was supply and demand but not for me. I was sad about Bob Seger though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 14 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said: They will rip the tourists like crazy! Hotels, meals, rental cars, possibly a dedicated airport departure tax, and anything else they can think of. There is an oil/gas presence there, but not too much manufacturing. My wife & I had dinner in Williamsburg VA., and I noticed that their tax on meals is over 13%. I expect the hotels are the same. On the one hand they want tourists to visit/spend, then they don't miss a beat in running up your tab. Not a lot of "infrastructure" improvements going on there either. You are 100% correct, go to NOLA and look at your hotel Bill, it is like NYC, there are 5-6 lines of add on taxes. There USED to be oil and gas, that is pretty much 90% gone, most of it to Houston and offshore business is half dead. There is next to no manufacturing was mostly directed to oilfield and offshore, offshore is pretty much dead. The city thrives on tourism and corruption. Of the $450 million, half will be spent inefficiently, the other half will be stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: New Orleans missed out on the Super Bowl in Minnesota because they refused to give into the NFL demands. The NFL mandates that every city has “x number of hotel rooms at y price” and “z number of transportation for a price.” Last time that the Super Bowl was here the hotels, restaurants, etc... were kind of like “yeah, no” and made a ton of money. The next time that they were bidding they refused to bend to the NFL demands on that so they lost despite being the heavy favorite. @NoSaint knows it much better than me and can hopefully clarify. The Super Bowl is on it’s way back in a couple of years and should ALWAYS be. There isn’t a city in the country better equipped to hold major events than New Orleans. I’m not sure that’s even debatable. The one gripe that you hear is that it’s hard to fly direct to NOLA. The new airport though will be open (MAYBE) by football season. That’s assuming it doesn’t get delayed for the 5,000th time. Other than that, EVERYTHING is in walking distance. Most people that come will never get into a vehicle once they get to their hotel. I will probably get delayed, and it should be. The exit ramp to get to the airport won't be ready until 2023 and that is probably optimistic. Getting in and out of that airport will be historically bad without that exit ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 5 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: I've been there twice. It struck me that as a major tourist destination, site of Final Fours, Super Bowls, Mardi Gras, Sugar Bowl every year, in the FBS national championshio rotation, major convention host city on an almost weekly basis, it's still one of the poorest cities in the U.S. It does not make sense. I went to graduate school there and lived on and off for about 15 years (finally moved residence to tax-free Texas)....biggest problems are education, government corruption, crime, old blue blood society, racism. Ironically enough, one of the best things to happen to the City was the hurricane, it is a long story but fascinating evolution of the city. i The Warehouse district for example where I last lived has been transformed into a hipster, trendy millennial place to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I enjoy Mobile more than New Orleans. It's like New Orleans without the mildew & filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I will probably get delayed, and it should be. The exit ramp to get to the airport won't be ready until 2023 and that is probably optimistic. Getting in and out of that airport will be historically bad without that exit ramp. Yeah, it is going to be a disaster!! They want people entering from Loyola I think in the meantime? It just looks like a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, it is going to be a disaster!! They want people entering from Loyola I think in the meantime? It just looks like a mess. Yeah tell me about it, I’m not looking forward to it. I live right off Airline almost to St Rose, and work in Elmwood. Trying to get home passing in front of the airport is a nightmare as it is, and will probably be worse when the new terminal opens until they get the access road situation l figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, CajunBillsBacker said: Yeah tell me about it, I’m not looking forward to it. I live right off Airline almost to St Rose, and work in Elmwood. Trying to get home passing in front of the airport is a nightmare as it is, and will probably be worse when the new terminal opens until they get the access road situation l figured out. That’s going to be brutal!! Where in Elmwood? Had lunch at Kyoto 2 today in your neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 46 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, it is going to be a disaster!! They want people entering from Loyola I think in the meantime? It just looks like a mess. 5 minutes ago, CajunBillsBacker said: Yeah tell me about it, I’m not looking forward to it. I live right off Airline almost to St Rose, and work in Elmwood. Trying to get home passing in front of the airport is a nightmare as it is, and will probably be worse when the new terminal opens until they get the access road situation l figured out. Plenty of Bills fans that live in the NOLA area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: That’s going to be brutal!! Where in Elmwood? Had lunch at Kyoto 2 today in your neighborhood. On Kuebel St, right off of Citrus. I’m on the road most of the day but my day starts/ends in Elmwood. You were literally two blocks from my office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s going to be brutal!! Where in Elmwood? Had lunch at Kyoto 2 today in your neighborhood. The good thing though is that the traffic is only bad twice a day. Once it pushes through, it's a straight shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, KellyToTasker said: The good thing though is that the traffic is only bad twice a day. Once it pushes through, it's a straight shot. You live here too? The left lane is always blocked by taxis and ubers trying to get into the Cell Lot across the street from the airport, and the right lane is either people trying to exit onto the service rd or the airport itself. It’s a brutal setup. If I’m in a rush to get home I’ll just cut through River Ridge. It’s longer in distance, but at least the traffic moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Sort of....I'm a north shore guy. I mostly just get off the causeway and towards the CBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 11 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: I've been there twice. It struck me that as a major tourist destination, site of Final Fours, Super Bowls, Mardi Gras, Sugar Bowl every year, in the FBS national championshio rotation, major convention host city on an almost weekly basis, it's still one of the poorest cities in the U.S. It does not make sense. And it smells like pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Limeaid said: Is this a new airport or a new terminal? I heard of a new terminal. Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport -- New Orleans, USA. Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport is set to see a super-modern terminal open in May 2019. It’s a single large terminal totally separate from the current in the same general area though. The old is being retired. 15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: New Orleans missed out on the Super Bowl in Minnesota because they refused to give into the NFL demands. The NFL mandates that every city has “x number of hotel rooms at y price” and “z number of transportation for a price.” Last time that the Super Bowl was here the hotels, restaurants, etc... were kind of like “yeah, no” and made a ton of money. The next time that they were bidding they refused to bend to the NFL demands on that so they lost despite being the heavy favorite. @NoSaint knows it much better than me and can hopefully clarify. The Super Bowl is on it’s way back in a couple of years and should ALWAYS be. There isn’t a city in the country better equipped to hold major events than New Orleans. I’m not sure that’s even debatable. The one gripe that you hear is that it’s hard to fly direct to NOLA. The new airport though will be open (MAYBE) by football season. That’s assuming it doesn’t get delayed for the 5,000th time. Other than that, EVERYTHING is in walking distance. Most people that come will never get into a vehicle once they get to their hotel. Pretty accurate summation. The nfl tries to drive down rate on a good portion of the inventory. Those that play still come out ahead of a normal weekend- but while they are getting 3-400 a night, their competing properties can see rates upwards of $1,000. It can be tricky to get enough people into the official bid. Minnesota had a little less challenge given how offseason it is for them but also some major players stepping up to dedicate all their local inventory. It’ll be back to Nola soon enough, they won’t stay away... but new stadium plus very aggressive city bid leapfrogged minny into the rotation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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