MAJBobby Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, ColeB said: There will never be another stadium. The definitive statement. If Pegulas see $$$$ and Value in a new stadium there absolutely will be one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Next season the Bills announce "Tailgate Retirement Village!" 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Pretty Clear https://www.buffalobills.com/stadium/parking "Please note: Tailgating Limousines must have a vehicle capacity of 11 passengers or fewer. Passengers in vehicles with a capacity of 12 or greater will not be permitted to tailgate or loiter at or near their vehicle and may only tailgate within the Tailgate Village powered by Tailgate Guys. See Bus & Limo Lot for more information." Bus & Limo Parking Lot The Buffalo Bills are proud to promote a safe and fun tailgating atmosphere for Bus & Limo passengers in Tailgate Village powered by Tailgate Guys within the Bus & Limo Lot. The Tailgate Village is the exclusive area for fans to responsibly tailgate in the Bus & Limo Lot prior to Bills home games. There is no tailgating or loitering permitted next to or around parked buses or limo buses. So get a limo with a seating capacity of 11 or less and you can tailgate away just like normal in the bus and limo lot. Wow. So park the bus, get out and vacate the bus lot ASAP. Certainly sounds like tailgate village is being rammed down the throats if taking a bus that parks in the stadium bus lot. Edited May 2, 2019 by LabattBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsfanAZ said: Maybe I am getting old but I prefer sitting in a lawn chair watching other NFL games while drinking beer before going into the game. Hard to do for Bills since they are early game but drink enough beers and you probably cannot tell difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Wsam4031 said: because they are forcing people that take busses and limos to do it No, it’s just one option. They can go elsewhere, just can’t park and tailgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17years&waiting Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 It will be interesting to see how busy the bus/rv lot is going to be this season. Do people accept the increased cost/forced tailgate, or do they relocate to non-stadium lots? I'm sure it's a combination of: opportunity to make more money, decrease liability, and test waters for downtown stadium. Notice that in the Q&A with WGR, the Bills rep noted the many pre-game venues that the Bills have in and around the stadium. Adding (forcing) another "sanitized" option is another test balloon for how well a downtown stadium works. If the Bills can continue to sanitize the game-day experience and funnel it to team-owned or sponsored events, then it just prepares fans for the eventual downtown stadium move. It will go something like this: "It's ok if there are no places downtown to tailgate, fans have been enjoying the "Tailgate Village" and "Miller Lite Fun Zone" for the past 5 seasons without any issues." Never mind that it was forced on people with no choice. Ultimately, from some of the interviews I've seen with both Pegulas, I don't think they particularly enjoy the tailgating or the reputation the fans have. That's just my opinion, but it certainly seems that way. I think they'd be more than happy to curtail the shenanigans, and I'm sure the league is pushing very hard for them to monetize anything and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, 17years&waiting said: I think they'd be more than happy to curtail the shenanigans, and I'm sure the league is pushing very hard for them to monetize anything and everything. They should just give players ability to bid for player numbers if they want to do that. And the league pulls enough shenanigans that they should be careful what they curtail. They already have an owner in trouble and I am sure how they allow him to skirt the punishment will be brought up by players when they want to punish them for their shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Who cares? Complete non issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, 17years&waiting said: It will be interesting to see how busy the bus/rv lot is going to be this season. Do people accept the increased cost/forced tailgate, or do they relocate to non-stadium lots? I'm sure it's a combination of: opportunity to make more money, decrease liability, and test waters for downtown stadium. Notice that in the Q&A with WGR, the Bills rep noted the many pre-game venues that the Bills have in and around the stadium. Adding (forcing) another "sanitized" option is another test balloon for how well a downtown stadium works. If the Bills can continue to sanitize the game-day experience and funnel it to team-owned or sponsored events, then it just prepares fans for the eventual downtown stadium move. It will go something like this: "It's ok if there are no places downtown to tailgate, fans have been enjoying the "Tailgate Village" and "Miller Lite Fun Zone" for the past 5 seasons without any issues." Never mind that it was forced on people with no choice. Ultimately, from some of the interviews I've seen with both Pegulas, I don't think they particularly enjoy the tailgating or the reputation the fans have. That's just my opinion, but it certainly seems that way. I think they'd be more than happy to curtail the shenanigans, and I'm sure the league is pushing very hard for them to monetize anything and everything. When St Louis had a football team, it had a downtown stadium and a substantial tailgate situation. I can't tell you how it compared to B'lo, but our neighbor T was "Tailgate Terry". Would fill up his large SUV, set up canopies, haul out his grill, lay out a spread, etc. He was one of many. There were private lots all around the stadium that allowed tailgating, so whatever the Rams did or did not want was pretty much a moot point. Unless there is literally no private land within a reasonable walk of a new stadium, tailgating will occur whether or not the Bills want it at a new stadium. I think a substantial number of Bills fans would like to see the edge taken off the shenanigans and the fan's reputation. I don't think the Pegulas would enjoy laying out a huge insurance settlement for a paraplegic or quadraplegic who jumped off a bus and landed wrong on a table. I think we all enjoy the reputation of being passionate die-hard fans who have stuck with the team through a long drought, but I don't think I'm the only one who finds it uncomfortable that Bills Fan has become synonymous with stupid-drunk self-immolating table-smasher in some circle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Who cares? Complete non issue Thank You!!!! this should end thread... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 5 hours ago, ColeB said: There will never be another stadium. Who knows really. Theres two options and thats it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Wsam4031 said: so if i have a sign posted beware of dog and u jump my fence to my backyard and the dog attacks you its my fault because signs don't release liability If I jump the fence into your backyard I am trespassing on your property - breaking the law. A better analogy would be if you invite me into your backyard as a guest. You have a sign posted "beware of dog" and you have the dog inside the house, but you are aware that the dog hates guests and may attack them (he's done it before) and is able to open the door to the house and get out (ask me about my door-opening dog). Your "beware of dog" sign does not protect you from liability if your dog gets out of the house and bites me, an invited guest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Are there private lots that allow buses? Or is it just the Bills' lot that allows them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, junior12thman92 said: Are there private lots that allow buses? Or is it just the Bills' lot that allows them? There are private lots which allow buses but you need to negotiate separately with them ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Who cares? Complete non issue Sometimes, you are just the wisest person on this board. You do it with such a simple approach too!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 My Son. #ProudParentMoment Crashing through a table, leaping off a Port-A-Potty. What’s Not to love about this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 About a better fan experience... bull.... Just be honest for once. It is "All About The Benjamins" for the Pegulas pure and simple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: My Son. #ProudParentMoment Crashing through a table, leaping off a Port-A-Potty. What’s Not to love about this? arghh, you pulled me back in!!!! I saw this in a bar yesterday during LeBartards show..and it so pissed me off. #1) That is not even in Buffalo, its in Jacksonville #2) they framed the discussion it seemed to me( again no sound on) like Bills were making tailgating more expensive cause the poor knuckle-dragging populace in Buffalo all make minimum wage and therefore would not be able to afford $15. #3) they ran a loop like 3 knucklehead tailgaters jumping into lit tables....it was just plain stupid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, May Day 10 said: Something tells me that at 11:55 AM, it is going to very difficult to find available people who are tasked with carrying all your stuff back to the bus. Valet Tailgating?!?!? That would be very cheap at $15. 16 hours ago, Heitz said: And, BTW, they're forcing people that take buses and limos that park in the bus/limo lot THAT WANT TO TAILGATE to pay the $15. If you don't want to tailgate, you don't need to pay the $15. Of course, you also need to question your life as to why you're at a Bills game and NOT tailgating, but that's on you... From the Q&A link a few pages ago. Q: So... boil it down for me in the bus lot. If you’re coming on a bus, you now have two options? A: If you’re not tailgating, nothing really changes from last year… you need to purchase your permit in advance. It’s still $100, but there’s no redeposit required. The tailgating option is really dependent on the capacity/size of the vehicle. The costs really break down to $15 per-person, regardless the size of your group. Those rates can be seen at tailgateguys.com Third option: You can still find a spot to tailgate for $0. This Tailgate Village spot for $15 is an option not a requirement. You just can't tailgate in the bus lot. Edited May 3, 2019 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 17 hours ago, Heitz said: Drinking hidden coat beers? Or, Just hop off the bus, walk yourself over to Hammer's and there you'll see the real definition of "tailgate" ?? Sure, just what I want. More LOAD on my facilities which I provide for My Customer. I guess I'll have to issue wristbands to my parkers and charge All walkins a fee to be on the property. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 2:25 PM, plenzmd1 said: What has declined significantly is arrests and evictions from the stadium... Are you sure? Or are the Bills fudging the numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 57 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: arghh, you pulled me back in!!!! I saw this in a bar yesterday during LeBartards show..and it so pissed me off. #1) That is not even in Buffalo, its in Jacksonville #2) they framed the discussion it seemed to me( again no sound on) like Bills were making tailgating more expensive cause the poor knuckle-dragging populace in Buffalo all make minimum wage and therefore would not be able to afford $15. #3) they ran a loop like 3 knucklehead tailgaters jumping into lit tables....it was just plain stupid That really is my Son and yes, it was at the playoff game in Jacksonville. We’re always gonna be the brunt of jokes nationally. At least the crazy fans ‘thing’ is humorous to us too.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 15 hours ago, 17years&waiting said: It will be interesting to see how busy the bus/rv lot is going to be this season. Do people accept the increased cost/forced tailgate, or do they relocate to non-stadium lots? I'm sure it's a combination of: opportunity to make more money, decrease liability, and test waters for downtown stadium. Notice that in the Q&A with WGR, the Bills rep noted the many pre-game venues that the Bills have in and around the stadium. Adding (forcing) another "sanitized" option is another test balloon for how well a downtown stadium works. If the Bills can continue to sanitize the game-day experience and funnel it to team-owned or sponsored events, then it just prepares fans for the eventual downtown stadium move. It will go something like this: "It's ok if there are no places downtown to tailgate, fans have been enjoying the "Tailgate Village" and "Miller Lite Fun Zone" for the past 5 seasons without any issues." Never mind that it was forced on people with no choice. Ultimately, from some of the interviews I've seen with both Pegulas, I don't think they particularly enjoy the tailgating or the reputation the fans have. That's just my opinion, but it certainly seems that way. I think they'd be more than happy to curtail the shenanigans, and I'm sure the league is pushing very hard for them to monetize anything and everything. The Bills rep is Andy Major. I remember him saying interview after interview for years all the tailgating incidents were on property the Bills do not control, private lots. I even called him out while he was doing a TV interview. Now he admits there are problems in the stadium lots. I don't trust a word he sez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, simpleman said: About a better fan experience... bull.... Just be honest for once. It is "All About The Benjamins" for the Pegulas pure and simple! As it should be. That is the point of running a business making mony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: Sure, just what I want. More LOAD on my facilities which I provide for My Customer. I guess I'll have to issue wristbands to my parkers and charge All walkins a fee to be on the property. See, I'm trying to UP your revenue - Lunch and a Show @ Hammer's $13 (gotta undercut the Bills just enough) with the TaigateBros.org. I'll cook the white hots, Kenny and crew have the show covered - all you'll have to do is drop the occasional hammer on the unruly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think a substantial number of Bills fans would like to see the edge taken off the shenanigans and the fan's reputation. I don't think the Pegulas would enjoy laying out a huge insurance settlement for a paraplegic or quadraplegic who jumped off a bus and landed wrong on a table. I think we all enjoy the reputation of being passionate die-hard fans who have stuck with the team through a long drought, but I don't think I'm the only one who finds it uncomfortable that Bills Fan has become synonymous with stupid-drunk self-immolating table-smasher in some circle. Why would the Pegulas be liable? Did they tell the fan to jump off the bus? Is the fan not responsible for his own actions? 2 minutes ago, Heitz said: See, I'm trying to UP your revenue - Lunch and a Show @ Hammer's $13 (gotta undercut the Bills just enough) with the TaigateBros.org. I'll cook the white hots, Kenny and crew have the show covered - all you'll have to do is drop the occasional hammer on the unruly... And people wonder why I am the way I am game days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: Why would the Pegulas be liable? Did they tell the fan to jump off the bus? Is the fan not responsible for his own actions? And people wonder why I am the way I am game days. That was discussed pages ago. I think that it’s important that you read it because you share the same risk. Long story, short, if someone were to be injured in this situation they would 100% be liable. They’d be sued and try to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: Why would the Pegulas be liable? Did they tell the fan to jump off the bus? Is the fan not responsible for his own actions? And people wonder why I am the way I am game days. Why would Disney be liable when a child goes into the water and get ate by a gator. But guess what they were 5 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: Why would the Pegulas be liable? Did they tell the fan to jump off the bus? Is the fan not responsible for his own actions? And people wonder why I am the way I am game days. Bills just like private lot owners gave the opportunity for that to happen, so if something happens in the lot and they are sued the insurance would absolutely pay out. I suggest you talk to a lawyer and you insurance company seeing you have a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: And people wonder why I am the way I am game days. Which is why I've been suggesting we tailgate in the Lot during the OFF season! What's the Memorial Day rate? ? Edited May 3, 2019 by Heitz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: Why would the Pegulas be liable? Did they tell the fan to jump off the bus? Is the fan not responsible for his own actions? 'Cuz love it or hate it, that's the way the legal system has evolved in this country. It Is What It Is. I could say more but it would be veering away from football so best elsewhere. Bottom line, we two may agree that the fan should be responsible for his own actions, but the system Is What It Is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 'Cuz love it or hate it, that's the way the legal system has evolved in this country. I know some one who is a insurance consultant, does not sell but advises on what insurance to buy. Covered my butt awhile ago besides the way Hammers Lot is registered as a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: I know some one who is a insurance consultant, does not sell but advises on what insurance to buy. Covered my butt awhile ago besides the way Hammers Lot is registered as a business. Then you get it, and you were just asking a rhetorical about why the Pegulas would be responsible I may be dissing your net worth here, but at a hunch, the Pegulas may have deeper pockets for lawyers to target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Hammered a Lot said: Are you sure? Or are the Bills fudging the numbers? All I can tell you is they laid out the numbers at the fan advisory meeting last summer, and the decrease was dramatic. Having said that, it was only based in stadium I believe, not in the lots. And I have seen a dramatic change in the last 3 years 1 hour ago, Hammered a Lot said: The Bills rep is Andy Major. I remember him saying interview after interview for years all the tailgating incidents were on property the Bills do not control, private lots. I even called him out while he was doing a TV interview. Now he admits there are problems in the stadium lots. I don't trust a word he sez. Hey!!! There is to be no disparaging of a fellow alum of the great, the awesome, Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Hammered a Lot said: And people wonder why I am the way I am game days. Really, we don't. We know... and we appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Here is what I think the Bills should do. They should script a WWE type performance to open the new tailgate section and have someone Vince McMahon like come in a suit and say: “Today Billsmafia is officially DEAD!” To a huge chorus of boos. Then proceed to say “This will be the very first step in building a nice quiet forgettable dome that will be so expensive it will keep all the riff raff like you out!” The boos will grow more and more intense. He will then say “Our dome will be so respectful and quiet it will make Indianapolis look like the Thunder Dome...” Just then he cut off as the BillsMafia come running down to the stage in a beer truck and start spraying him Stone Cold Steve Austin style. They set. up three tables on top of one and other and then set it on fire. Then they power bomb him through all three. The crowd goes insane and begin to tear down the fences around the designated tailgate area as the party becomes more insane than it has ever been and spills into all sections of Orchard Park. People start setting off fireworks and firing shot guns into the air. While the corporate Bills official shakes his fist in pure and anger and vows revenge. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochester rob Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On the program outside the lines today they did a segment on this. All the clips shown looked like private lots. None from the bus lot or county lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I believe the Bills had this planned before last season. I don't remember reading about any arrests/actions from the Bus Lot in a newspaper or seeing anything on tv. From what I understand if security saw you do something wrong they would not act at the time of the incident. A plain clothes security guard would follow you to the ticket gate, your ticket scanned and then you were asked to leave the property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I do know a lot about insurance. I have learned from my daughter who is an underwriter for large businesses. People are looking for big pay days. Always some lawyers out there willing to bring a lawsuit against someone. Lot of the cr ap that happens today is driven by social media. THE LOOK AT ME attitude i am not a fan of the term BILLS MAFIA I am a Bills fan. Bus people will get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Congressman Tom Reed blasts Goodell and Tailgate Village... https://reed.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2790 https://www.whec.com/news/tom-reed-critical-of-new-tailgate-village-at-new-era-field/5340357/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 12:59 PM, Hammered a Lot said: Sure, just what I want. More LOAD on my facilities which I provide for My Customer. I guess I'll have to issue wristbands to my parkers and charge All walkins a fee to be on the property. Most of the bus tailgaters are too loaded to find Hammer's Lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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