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RD 6, Pick 181: S Jaquan Johnson, University of Miami


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1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

 

I take an athlete over a limited guy at a position of strength with existing depth. Whether that a WR or developmental piece elsewhere. 

 

If we have Hyde, poyer, neal, Alexander.... this guy will struggle to make the 53 yet alone 45... before we call him a special teamer he has to dress- how many safeties are you giving jerseys to on Sunday?

 

 

Alexander is going to play LB.  Behind Hyde and Poyer we have an aging Bush and not much else.

 

You going to question this regimes pick of defensive backs?

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Just now, d_wag said:

Meh, would rather just flip the 6th for a 5th next year if the guy just isn’t gonna make the cut (which I don’t think this guy will, barring injury). Cutting picks is a complete waste.

 

Kinda need a taker for that

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1 minute ago, d_wag said:

Meh, would rather just flip the 6th for a 5th next year if the guy just isn’t gonna make the cut (which I don’t think this guy will, barring injury). Cutting picks is a complete waste.

 

Do you have any takers? Maybe the other teams feel the same way? And cutting picks is part of the process for every team, every year. Ooh, I said process.....

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4 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

I take an athlete over a limited guy at a position of strength with existing depth. Whether that a WR or developmental piece elsewhere. 

 

If we have Hyde, poyer, neal, Alexander.... this guy will struggle to make the 53 yet alone 45... before we call him a special teamer he has to dress- how many safeties are you giving jerseys to on Sunday?

 

 

I have to trust that Beane and Mcdermott are selecting players on their board to fill various roles. Whether they blossom to starters will be determined. We never know. How the heck to we really know at this stage? Things happen.

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3 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

 

I'll need oven mitts for your scorching hot take. Remember how badly Andre Roberts torched is last year? And how much this board loves the signing for that alone? 

You can lose games for sure. Roberts isn’t moving the needle on wins/losses.

 

If we show up completely incompetent in coverage, it’ll lose us games. Ok vs great coverage isn’t moving the needle if you have excellent kickers. It’s a “great kickers and just don’t mess up” league on special teams these days.

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3 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Weak take. 

 

Taron Johnson had a 4.7 40 time and we all saw how poorly he did as a ROOKIE.

 

 

Thank you. If there is one thing I’m not going to criticize this regime about, it’s their ability to find a diamond in the rough secondary player.

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28 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

Another lackluster pick.  A lot of talent left including some who have a chance to compete for a starting position.  This guy's only chance is special teams and then practice squad.  

 

 

Now if this were true the Bills would of made a different pick. They are picking BPA's.

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4 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

Alexander is going to play LB.  Behind Hyde and Poyer we have an aging Bush and not much else.

 

You going to question this regimes pick of defensive backs?

I think he meant Mo Alexander, so forgettable it has to be looked up.

 

Johnson beats out Marlowe and or Mo Alexander and maybe Siran Neal

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Just now, Rocket94 said:

I have to trust that Beane and Mcdermott are selecting players on their board to fill various roles. Whether they blossom to starters will be determined. We never know.

This one truly feels like proehl did. Personal connection very deep in the draft that doesn’t actually seem to have a real fit. Not a huge deal but I wouldn’t expect to see him play much if at all. He has to leap frog several guys (including a special teams ace at his position group) to even dress to get special teams reps.

 

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14 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Slow. Small. Religious. 

Waste of a pick but at this point these are all marginal guys.

No WR or pass rusher to develop yet. But at least they aren't taking unathletic guards with no hope of making the team.

 

 

Religious?  What a ridiculous objection to a draft pick.

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33 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

Another lackluster pick.  A lot of talent left including some who have a chance to compete for a starting position.  This guy's only chance is special teams and then practice squad.  

I am so sick of people not knowing ***** about these players but calling them bad picks.  ALL of these late round players have flaws that's why they are being drafted late.  The analysts talk about their flaws so people think they are bad picks.  It's awful this year.  

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2 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

and EJ Gaines and Levi Wallace

Well they play outside. The comment was about Nickel Corner being a need. Taron Johnson was playing at a pro bowl level at nickel corner before he got shut down for surgery.

Just now, Mark92 said:

I am so sick of people not knowing ***** about these players but calling them bad picks.  ALL of these late round players have flaws that's why they are being drafted late.  The analysts talk about their flaws so people think they are bad picks.  It's awful this year.  

It also gets my blood boiling. Idiot fans who have no idea what they are talking about. They know like 5 players and if we don't take those 5 players they think the pick is a bad one.

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1 minute ago, d_wag said:

You can get competition at deep positions in UDFA and doesn’t burn through a pick 

 

Which means the Bills think Johnson has the best shot at making the team over other graded players at that pick. 

 

Not it hard to see that

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27 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

Kelvin Harmon, WR, North Carolina State

Preston Williams, WR, Colorado State

Emmanuel Hall, WR, Missouri

 

Any of these receivers since we currently have Zay Jones as our #1 which is pretty pathetic.   Oh, wait, we have John Brown who will probably get injured or the little white guy from Dallas.  Wait a minute, we have Duke Williams, the miracle man from Canada!!!

LOL.  Any of these 3 would have trouble making any NFL roster as this years draft indicates what 32 teams think of their talent level.  All would struggle to make opening day rosters for legitimate reasons.

 

Harmon can't separate.

Hall can't catch.

Williams is a red flag character guy.  

 

The Bills, and 31 other teams, are consciously saying no thanks.  

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1 minute ago, freddyjj said:

LOL.  Any of these 3 would have trouble making any NFL roster as this years draft indicates what 32 teams think of their talent level.  All would struggle to make opening day rosters for legitimate reasons.

 

Harmon can't separate.

Hall can't catch.

Williams is a red flag character guy.  

 

The Bills, and 31 other teams, are consciously saying no thanks.  

A lot of teams are wrong about a lot of guys. Tom Brady and Antonio Brown immediately come to mind.

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5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Well they play outside. The comment was about Nickel Corner being a need. Taron Johnson was playing at a pro bowl level at nickel corner before he got shut down for surgery.

It also gets my blood boiling. Idiot fans who have no idea what they are talking about. They know like 5 players and if we don't take those 5 players they think the pick is a bad one.

What gets my blood boiling is losing and not having a WR worth a F over the last 10 years due to ineptness. Some of us have high standards, thankfully Beane seems to be fairly competent, but so far it doesn’t appear to be so for the WR department. 

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7 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Bottom of the roster guy, at least this is when you should take DBs, so got that right.

 

I’ll trust McD on his DB choices. Doesn’t make it a lock, but a good guess, most likely. 

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2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Which means the Bills think Johnson has the best shot at making the team over other graded players at that pick. 

 

Not it hard to see that

Give me another LB or a big WR where their is an actual opportunity to make the roster.

 

I’ll say this draft does bode well for duke williams, he’ll get comp in UDFA but has to be considered early fav to make roster if they keep 6 (i consider brown, beasley, roberts, and foster locks with zay very closely behind). I thought duke would be on outside looking in post draft but he’s the size guy the don’t have in other 5 and a guy like mckenzie doesnt offer that.

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Just now, 100DollarBills said:

What gets my blood boiling is losing and not having a WR worth a F over the last 10 years due to ineptness. Some of us have high standards, thankfully Beane seems to be fairly competent, but so far it doesn’t appear to be so for the WR department. 

 

Choose to be happy and enjoy this hobby - you don't have to let it make you angry.  I promise you'll have a better time if you commit to avoiding negativity.

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Just now, d_wag said:

Give me another LB or a big WR where their is an actual opportunity to make the roster.

 

I’ll say this draft does bode well for duke williams, he’ll get comp in UDFA but has to be considered early fav to make roster if they keep 6 (i consider brown, beasley, roberts, and foster locks with zay very closely behind). I thought duke would be on outside looking in post draft but he’s the size guy the don’t have in other 5 and a guy like mckenzie doesnt offer that.

 

How does a LBer or WR have an actual chance to make the Roster and Safety doesn’t (that is a ST ace). 

 

Guess you you didn’t see the play of Neal or Marlow at times last season. 

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7 minutes ago, Mark92 said:

I am so sick of people not knowing ***** about these players but calling them bad picks.  ALL of these late round players have flaws that's why they are being drafted late.  The analysts talk about their flaws so people think they are bad picks.  It's awful this year.  

I agree, it's awful.?  

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I'm biased, being a wyoming grad, but if they were going the route of a backup safety and special teams guy, they should have gone with Andrew Wingard. The guy ran in the low 4.5s, is a little bigger, with over 400 college tackles, and double digit interceptions. 

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4 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said:

What gets my blood boiling is losing and not having a WR worth a F over the last 10 years due to ineptness. Some of us have high standards, thankfully Beane seems to be fairly competent, but so far it doesn’t appear to be so for the WR department. 

 

How many WRs were signed this Offseason?  And how did their likely future UDFA No 1 WR look after coming back after being humbled a bit on the PS?

 

and How does a 6th round WR change your thinking 

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