The Senator Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 hours ago, LabattBlue said: No way do I waste a 5th round pick on him. 7th round or UDFA. Forget about that. Tyree Jackson will be wearing a Patriots jersey way before the fifth round. As always, JMO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, The Senator said: Forget about that. Tyree Jackson will be wearing a Patriots jersey way before the fifth round. As always, JMO . Why? The Pats seem to value accuracy, which is not Jackson's strong suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Why? The Pats seem to value accuracy, which is not Jackson's strong suit. Dude is freaky big and athletic. Brady is going to be around at least two more seasons, so they can afford to make Tyree a project. You can coach just about everything else, but there’s one thing you can’t coach - how to be 6’7”. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Don't see him making it as a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) Nothing wrong with brining him in. He’s the type of prospect who I’d have concerns about even if he played in an elite conference. The fact that he played in the MAC concerns me further about his ability to develop. If I’m drafting a MAC QB, I want a guy who dominated the conference. Average MAC QB’s never succeed in the pros, and may even need to change position like Edelman. Edited April 13, 2019 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Tyree is better than a lot of people think... I wouldn't mind seeing him in the 5th-6th... He's not a TE... Not built like one at all... He can make tough throws, and get himself out of Trouble... A shaky starter like Jameis Winston for example could lose his job to a kid like Tyree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) Late rd flyier. With a vertical passing attack having a poor man's version of your Qb makes sense. Edited April 13, 2019 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: James O’Hagan He isn’t small For a modern LBr... but he is slow... and the MAC has produced really good football players... you obviously don’t watch much MAC ball... that’s a lazy assessment that the MAC can’t put out ball players Where did I say MAC can’t put out ball players. I used the MAC to talk level of competition. Not hard to see Competition in the ACC, PAC12 SEC is a lot higher than Competition in the MAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Where did I say MAC can’t put out ball players. I used the MAC to talk level of competition. Not hard to see Competition in the ACC, PAC12 SEC is a lot higher than Competition in the MAC I can agree to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: 716..first thing I thought..MajBobby reads national bs..I highly doubt he watched him/Bulls 5 times this past year on ESPN 3 plus. You and Promo are UB sports gods..almost near my level. What I did watch is a 5.0+ 40 from a LBer but hey slob away 330 Lineman are faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/12/2019 at 11:57 AM, Cornette's Commentary said: Let me ask a question: if Tyree Jackson DIDN'T play for UB, would people still be pounding the table as hard as they are for him to be drafted in the 6th or 7th to "sit behind Allen and Barkley to develop?" No one knows for sure what will happen with Anderson after camp. Whether a 4th arm comes to camp or not I do think it would be advantageous for the Bills to bring in a strong armed QB to camp. Mimicking hard thrown balls from a scrambling QB would help the WRs in my opinion. So Jackson OR a guy like him is OK with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: No one knows for sure what will happen with Anderson after camp. Whether a 4th arm comes to camp or not I do think it would be advantageous for the Bills to bring in a strong armed QB to camp. Mimicking hard thrown balls from a scrambling QB would help the WRs in my opinion. So Jackson OR a guy like him is OK with me. As all UB fans know..he's loaded with raw talent but can somebody teach him how to take criticism..that's the question.IMO,he should have stayed for one more year to grow....how can he do that as a team's number 4 ? He could very well end up being a cut/release guy over and over,maybe playing for three/four teams before a final release from the NFL.I hope I'm wrong about him,Bear. He's 21 but he's going on 18 because of his attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: As all UB fans know..he's loaded with raw talent but can somebody teach him how to take criticism..that's the question.IMO,he should have stayed for one more year to grow....how can he do that as a team's number 4 ? He could very well end up being a cut/release guy over and over,maybe playing for three/four teams before a final release from the NFL.I hope I'm wrong about him,Bear. He's 21 but he's going on 18 because of his attitude. I didn't realize this was an issue..............thanks 'sky. Playing one more year is always a tough choice for these kids. One more year playing at UB could of changed his draft projections for 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 ...holy crap... did NOT realize that this kid is a 6'7", 250 lb runaway 18 wheeler.....back under my rock........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...holy crap... did NOT realize that this kid is a 6'7", 250 lb runaway 18 wheeler.....back under my rock........... Showed up on UB campus as a 6’2 190 LB true Freshmen ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...holy crap... did NOT realize that this kid is a 6'7", 250 lb runaway 18 wheeler.....back under my rock........... Here is probably his best game from last season. Too bad he couldn't keep this up all year. Johnson being injured didn't help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Showed up on UB campus as a 6’2 190 LB true Freshmen ... That's Dennis Rodmanesque. In all seriousness, has a "project" QB EVER worked out? I guess you could say Jimmy G, but that's a reach. Jackson seems like a really good kid, but that windup is just too much for the NFL. Maybe he's TOO tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That's Dennis Rodmanesque. In all seriousness, has a "project" QB EVER worked out? I guess you could say Jimmy G, but that's a reach. Jackson seems like a really good kid, but that windup is just too much for the NFL. Maybe he's TOO tall. I wouldn’t classify Jimmy G as a project QB... besides coming from a small school he was super pro ready with a lightning quick release and I would say yes, some project QBs have worked out but not many... Cam Newton was no where near my #1 player in the draft and a huge question about how he would adapt... he was just super physically gifted our own Josh Allen was a project... and was starting to flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 21 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Don't see him making it as a QB. Honest question and I’m not calling you racist (don’t know you and you seem like a good dude with bad football takes ?) but have you ever liked a non white qb? I honestly don’t recall any and you love some terrible white qbs. I’m genuinely asking. 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I wouldn’t classify Jimmy G as a project QB... besides coming from a small school he was super pro ready with a lightning quick release and I would say yes, some project QBs have worked out but not many... Cam Newton was no where near my #1 player in the draft and a huge question about how he would adapt... he was just super physically gifted our own Josh Allen was a project... and was starting to flash It’s not just you but it’s insane how people underrate Cam. He dominated on every level, including the best conference in college. I would have been shocked if he didn’t become a franchise guy. Clearly he has his flaws but the dude is a baller. 12 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: That's Dennis Rodmanesque. In all seriousness, has a "project" QB EVER worked out? I guess you could say Jimmy G, but that's a reach. Jackson seems like a really good kid, but that windup is just too much for the NFL. Maybe he's TOO tall. I think Kaepernick fits project qb. It also depends what qualifies to be a project qb. IMO, Allen is a bit of a project qb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honest question and I’m not calling you racist (don’t know you and you seem like a good dude with bad football takes ?) but have you ever liked a non white qb? I honestly don’t recall any and you love some terrible white qbs. I’m genuinely asking. It’s not just you but it’s insane how people underrate Cam. He dominated on every level, including the best conference in college. I would have been shocked if he didn’t become a franchise guy. Clearly he has his flaws but the dude is a baller. Just because he dominated HS and college didn’t mean he would dominate the pros... tons of guys were superstars in both and nothing in the league Cam definitely had a chance to fail for a myriad of reasons but overcame and developed Edited April 13, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 ...Manute Bol on 'roids........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Just because he dominated HS and college didn’t mean he would dominate the pros... tons of guys were superstars in both and nothing in the league Cam definitely had a chance to fail for a myriad of reasons but overcame and developed Cam was definitely not a "project" QB. I think that was C.Biscuit's quarrel. Your opinion notwithstanding, he was widely considered the best player in the 2011 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Cam was definitely not a "project" QB. I think that was C.Biscuit's quarrel. Your opinion notwithstanding, he was widely considered the best player in the 2011 draft. Over von miller and pat Peterson and Julio and AJ? No chance he was . and lots of analysts and scouts said he was boom or bust. Nobody ever questioned his athletic abilities Edited April 13, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 On 4/12/2019 at 7:23 AM, GunnerBill said: If he is there in the 7th I'd take a flier. Hopefully we won’t be picking in the 7th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honest question and I’m not calling you racist (don’t know you and you seem like a good dude with bad football takes ?) but have you ever liked a non white qb? I honestly don’t recall any and you love some terrible white qbs. I’m genuinely asking. its pretty obvious that jackson sux, so no dig deal there . i liked kaepernick but he relied on his athleticism and that wont last in the NFL. Cam just isnt that good, maybe he will get back to his MVP year after his shoulder surgery. i liked Vick, McNabb, Moon, Russell Wilson, obviously Mahomes but he is half white so not sure he fits, Prescott has potential and the new kid Murray could be great. the problem i have with many black QBs is they rely on their athleticism too much and eventually get exposed and then you really have nothing. Its not that their black its just when you see a certain kind of player your past experience determines how you feel towards similar players. It would be like if we drafted a white RB or CB i would automatically presume they are not as good because not many Whites are good there. Bottom line is prove it on the field and nothing else matters. Also about Cam, i just hate his attitude, the way he mopes when things go bad and goes over the top when it goes well. The way he bailed on that fumble in the Superbowl and then had the audacity to say that, that didnt effect the outcome of the game was pathetic and outrageous. it was actually Vick that turned me off to black QBs, because i just loved him college but saw how he just couldn't adapt to the NFL made hesitant about other black QBs, but that could be changing if more start to play better. Edited April 14, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 13 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honest question and I’m not calling you racist (don’t know you and you seem like a good dude with bad football takes ?) but have you ever liked a non white qb? I honestly don’t recall any and you love some terrible white qbs. I’m genuinely asking. ... 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: ... it was actually Vick that turned me off to black QBs, because i just loved him college but saw how he just couldn't adapt to the NFL made hesitant about other black QBs, but that could be changing if more start to play better. 'nuff said 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: its pretty obvious that jackson sux, so no dig deal there . i liked kaepernick but he relied on his athleticism and that wont last in the NFL. Cam just isnt that good, maybe he will get back to his MVP year after his shoulder surgery. i liked Vick, McNabb, Moon, Russell Wilson, obviously Mahomes but he is half white so not sure he fits, Prescott has potential and the new kid Murray could be great. the problem i have with many black QBs is they rely on their athleticism too much and eventually get exposed and then you really have nothing. Its not that their black its just when you see a certain kind of player your past experience determines how you feel towards similar players. It would be like if we drafted a white RB or CB i would automatically presume they are not as good because not many Whites are good there. Bottom line is prove it on the field and nothing else matters. Also about Cam, i just hate his attitude, the way he mopes when things go bad and goes over the top when it goes well. The way he bailed on that fumble in the Superbowl and then had the audacity to say that, that didnt effect the outcome of the game was pathetic and outrageous. it was actually Vick that turned me off to black QBs, because i just loved him college but saw how he just couldn't adapt to the NFL made hesitant about other black QBs, but that could be changing if more start to play better. I respect you for responding but you don’t see any problem with what you just said? I mean come on. You love so many ? white QBs that are terrible, why doesn’t that turn you off to them? Mike Vick had a better career than Landry Jones or John Skelton. Why don’t you not like white qbs? Edited April 14, 2019 by C.Biscuit97 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 13 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I respect you for responding but you don’t see any problem with what you just said? I mean come on. You love so many ? white QBs that are terrible, why doesn’t that turn you off to them? Mike Vick had a better career than Landry Jones or John Skelton. Why don’t you not like white qbs? i hate plenty of white QBs but look at who's winning, so chances have been better with white QBs. Dont like Rosen, Eli or most of the QBs in the league. ive said a dozen times before i was done with Landry before his season was over but somehow you keep remembering i liked him at one time. Just because i liked a QB at one point doesnt mean i still do. Prove it on the field or you're garbage regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I think i would rather have Tyree than Anderson all's he will do is hold a clip board & burn up a roster spot if they want to keep him around make him a assistant to the QB coach or to Dabol i think it's better to develop a young guy for the future rather than keep a old guy with little to no future & 1 yr of good play in his history thats nothing to build on & i hope Beane see's it that way !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/12/2019 at 1:53 PM, msw2112 said: Tyree would be a good QB3 for the Bills. He's a developmental guy, has a similar build and skill set to Allen, and could develop behind Allen and Barkley. It seems odd to have both Barkley and Anderson on the roster. Anderson seems to be beyond his playing years, but has a good influence in the room. Perhaps he makes it through most of training camp, collecting various bonuses, etc. to make it worth his while, then is "released" and becomes an assistant QB coach/analyst, working with Daboll and Dorsey. That would leave room for a younger developmental guy like Tyree to hold down the QB3 spot behind Allen and Barkley. The other angle would be to keep the 2 veterans and try to stash a developmental guy on the Practice Squad. Obviously, you run the risk of losing the player to another team's active roster if you go that route. As long as he is released (retired) after week 1 he will get full pay and year of service and Bills will keep his rights but if he became a coach another team might object stating the Bills are stashing player on coaching staff. Teams used to do that before rules added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 If he goes undrafted, and Bills don’t take a qb, they could sign him as Udfa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 He should've stayed another year at UB. Really dumb move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 For some reason I have a feeling Bill's take him one of there 7ths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sanners said: He should've stayed another year at UB. Really dumb move. yes agreed. And Mobrey the TE and the other WR they had transferring as a result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sanners said: He should've stayed another year at UB. Really dumb move. Yeah, I think he thought it was a bad qb class and was losing Johnson. But he made a terrible decision. I’m sure someone pushed him that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, freddyjj said: yes agreed. And Mobrey the TE and the other WR they had transferring as a result. Yep. He got some bad advice somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Edited April 27, 2019 by PromoTheRobot 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs0108 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Nice I like this and with his athleticism maybe TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Now get AJ83! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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