I'd like a reasonable to above average LB corps

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

The NFL is trying to kill defense, and of course QB is the #1 position, but try to tell me there is any CB, EDGE... whatever the hell that is, DT, OT, WR(Maybe Jerry Rice excepted, maybe), Safety, TE, Guard or Punter, who changes the game for an entire team the way a truly dominant MLB does.  

 

LB's are the football players out there- the men amongst boys, if you will.  They keep the  prima donnas in check, the DT's in check.  MLB's aren't the answer to everything on defense, but they're the ones I want setting the tone.  

 

Outside of great roles played by great players, Bruce, Deion, Reggie, the truly intimidating defenses have been anchored by the linebackers.  

 

Try it in your head without looking... list the great DL, LB's and DB's, then write them down.  $42.76 on the LB's.  

 

[nucci]

you don't want great?

[Jpsredemption]

It’ll take a ton of improvement for Edmunds to be dominant. Overlooked was a very average to below average rookie season on his end. He got a free pass with so much of the focus on offense but he needs to step up.

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

3 minutes ago, nucci said:

you don't want great?

It's an exercise in subtleness. 

[maryland-bills-fan]

Edmunds was a teenaged when drafted in the first round (last time for that was 2007 I think).  He is a very high ceiling/medium floor and NOT going to reach is full potential in the first year or even the second year.  Suck it up people, we have to wait and see if the risk in getting him is going to pay off.  I'm hoping for a DT LB OT for our first three picks this year.

 

[Doc Brown]

We should pry trade up for one.

[Chandler#81]

12 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

The NFL is trying to kill defense, and of course QB is the #1 position, but try to tell me there is any CB, EDGE... whatever the hell that is, DT, OT, WR(Maybe Jerry Rice excepted, maybe), Safety, TE, Guard or Punter, who changes the game for an entire team the way a truly dominant MLB does.  

 

LB's are the football players out there- the men amongst boys, if you will.  They keep the  prima donnas in check, the DT's in check.  MLB's aren't the answer to everything on defense, but they're the ones I want setting the tone.  

 

Outside of great roles played by great players, Bruce, Deion, Reggie, the truly intimidating defenses have been anchored by the linebackers.  

 

Try it in your head without looking... list the great DL, LB's and DB's, then write them down.  $42.76 on the LB's.  

 

 

Seriously? You don’t know what Edge means??

 

We need a kiddies table forum..

[Inigo Montoya]

 

I know we live in an instant gratification society, but do you think it's possible to give Edmunds at least a year to figure things out?    What were you doing when you were his age?  For God's sake the kid can't even buy a beer yet.  

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Tough crowd, but where did I insult the child of Ferrel Edmunds?   I want a merciless LB corps.

9 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Seriously? You don’t know what Edge means??

 

We need a kiddies table forum..

So, tell me what it means. 

 

You don't either, btw, b/c it's always capitalized EDGE

 

old people trying to get stuff.  )

Edited April 9, 2019 by BringMetheHeadofLeonLett

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

5 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I would like to join a Buffalo Bills message board someday

Refuse to shower for another 14 weeks, on principle.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I'm confused.

 

I'll agree, though. The concept of "edge" is a bit too "edgy" for me.

 

What ever happened to DE? Is it just not trendy enough a name?

 

 

[Victory Formation]

48 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Edmunds was a teenaged when drafted in the first round (last time for that was 2007 I think).  He is a very high ceiling/medium floor and NOT going to reach is full potential in the first year or even the second year.  Suck it up people, we have to wait and see if the risk in getting him is going to pay off.  I'm hoping for a DT LB OT for our first three picks this year.

 

Yep. Although I expect huge production from Edmunds this year. Milano is an ace as well and Devin Bush may be an option. Who knows? I definitely believe we draft another LB somewhere in the draft, only Beane and McD know when, although I think it's pretty obvious at this point that that'll be a reality on draft day.

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

I'm confused.

 

I'll agree, though. The concept of "edge" is a bit too "edgy" for me.

 

What ever happened to DE? Is it just not trendy enough a name?

 

 

 

You changed your profile name... why should the poor DEs not be allowed to call themselves EDGE? Name fascist.  

Just now, NewDayBills said:

Yep. Although I expect huge production from Edmunds this year. Milano is an ace as well and Devin Bush may be an option. Who knows? I definitely believe we draft another LB somewhere in the draft, only Beane and McD know when, although I think it's pretty obvious at this point that that'll be a reality on draft day.

 

Day 3 - look for another Milano like gem.

[aristocrat]

Devin White Baby.  

[Rc2catch]

EDGE/pass rusher is the key to defense. Ask Luke Kuechly... Who is the best linebacker in football.. Without a pass rush everyone else is left on an island and in a PASSING league you can’t cover for more than 3-4 seconds. 

That dominant middle line backer spoken of rarely rushes the passer. It’s great kuechly can have 175 tackles every year, but it’s also pointless if they’re all tackles past the line of scrimmage. Quarterback and pass rusher will be the most important positions for a long time with the state of the game. Issue is you now need 2 pass rushers at elite level. A pass rush makes everyone look good. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

You changed your profile name... why should the poor DEs not be allowed to call themselves EDGE? Name fascist.  

 

 

Are we going to start calling DTs PLUG?

 

Maybe WRs should be FLANK?

 

 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Are we going to start calling DTs PLUG?

 

Maybe WRs should be FLANK?

 

 

 

QBs "THROW"?

 

I like it.

 

My none NFL supporting mate calls offensive linemen "PUSHERS". I think we are onto something.

Edited April 9, 2019 by GunnerBill

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

QBs "THROW"?

 

I like it.

 

My none NFL supporting mate calls offensive linemen "PUSHERS". I think we are onto something.

 

Weep for the culture.

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Children!   Children!!!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

QBs "THROW"?

 

I like it.

 

My none NFL supporting mate calls offensive linemen "PUSHERS". I think we are onto something.

 

Weep for the culture

 

[Tenhigh]

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

QBs "THROW"?

 

I like it.

 

My none NFL supporting mate calls offensive linemen "PUSHERS". I think we are onto something.

My off the boat Irish buddy loves the old "why do they call it football, it should be called throwball".  I  then tell him soccer should be called kickball. Ugliness always ensues. 

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

The NFL is trying to kill defense, and of course QB is the #1 position, but try to tell me there is any CB, EDGE... whatever the hell that is, DT, OT, WR(Maybe Jerry Rice excepted, maybe), Safety, TE, Guard or Punter, who changes the game for an entire team the way a truly dominant MLB does.  

 

LB's are the football players out there- the men amongst boys, if you will.  They keep the  prima donnas in check, the DT's in check.  MLB's aren't the answer to everything on defense, but they're the ones I want setting the tone.  

 

Outside of great roles played by great players, Bruce, Deion, Reggie, the truly intimidating defenses have been anchored by the linebackers.  

 

Try it in your head without looking... list the great DL, LB's and DB's, then write them down.  $42.76 on the LB's.  

 

The new replay rules are going to change things a bit I think?

[mjt328]

1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

The NFL is trying to kill defense, and of course QB is the #1 position, but try to tell me there is any CB, EDGE... whatever the hell that is, DT, OT, WR(Maybe Jerry Rice excepted, maybe), Safety, TE, Guard or Punter, who changes the game for an entire team the way a truly dominant MLB does.  

 

LB's are the football players out there- the men amongst boys, if you will.  They keep the  prima donnas in check, the DT's in check.  MLB's aren't the answer to everything on defense, but they're the ones I want setting the tone.  

 

Outside of great roles played by great players, Bruce, Deion, Reggie, the truly intimidating defenses have been anchored by the linebackers.  

 

Try it in your head without looking... list the great DL, LB's and DB's, then write them down.  $42.76 on the LB's.  

 

 

The last truly superior LB who fits the profile you say was probably Ray Lewis.

Luke Kuechly is probably the best in today's NFL, but I would hardly describe him as someone who dominates like the old days.

 

Like it or not, the NFL is changing. 

The traditional running game is a complimentary piece to offenses now.  Not a primary method of attack. 

And because of that, defenses must adapt. 

 

The big and powerful MLB who blows through linemen with ease, then stuffs runners in the hole... he's becoming a dinosaur.

Teams need guys who can sprint from sideline to sideline, cover RBs and TEs in the passing game, chase down scrambling QBs, etc.

 

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

8 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

The new replay rules are going to change things a bit I think?

Yes, I think many children will be born in the glory of those rules and others?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Wish granted. Lb Corp in today’s game is two guys much of the time in a 4-3 base nickel package.

 

Tre and Milano are reasonably good. 

 

~250 tackles 12 turnovers between them. Both under 25. 

[SoCal Deek]

Just don’t call me SHIRLEY 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Jpsredemption said:

It’ll take a ton of improvement for Edmunds to be dominant. Overlooked was a very average to below average rookie season on his end. He got a free pass with so much of the focus on offense but he needs to step up.

 

I think you need to understand what you are watching and the scheme better.

[BigBuff423]

Somewhere up thread someone said that Edmunds wasn't great and his lack of production was overshadowed by the piss-poor Offense. I disagree. Edmunds showed real Rookie issues in the first half of the season. But just as fairly, he also showed tremendous improvement in his second half of the season. Let's take a look at his stats:

 

First 8 games: Tackles: 62 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 7 - Forced Fumbles: 2 - INTs: 0

Last 7 games: Tackles: 59 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 5 - Forced Fumbles: 0 - INTs: 2

(Didn't play against Chicago)

 

To take that a step further in his last 4 games, he really started to jump off the screen with development:

Tackles: 39 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 3 Forced Fumbles: (Still 0 obviously) - INTs: 2

 

Looking at his production that way, he started out a little hot, then cooled, then slowly went up for a few games and then shot up at the end of the year, where you want your 1st and 2nd year guys to show the best improvement. 

 

Does he need to grow / mature into a better LB? Yes, of course he does. Was he so bad that I think he needs to make a Herculean leap to be great? No, IMO he does not. To that end, IF and it's a big IF, he continues to develop at the year's end trajectory, his second year should be quite good and probably his second half of this year we'll see what Beane and McD saw when they drafted him: a STUD LB that can anchor the Defense for years to come.

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Dear god, i like football.  Because i like football, I want a very good middle linebacker

 

I also don't care if our young gun gets kicked to the outside, I want a good MLB

 

 

call me fm stupid

4 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said:

Somewhere up thread someone said that Edmunds wasn't great and his lack of production was overshadowed by the piss-poor Offense. I disagree. Edmunds showed real Rookie issues in the first half of the season. But just as fairly, he also showed tremendous improvement in his second half of the season. Let's take a look at his stats:

 

First 8 games: Tackles: 62 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 7 - Forced Fumbles: 2 - INTs: 0

Last 7 games: Tackles: 59 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 5 - Forced Fumbles: 0 - INTs: 2

(Didn't play against Chicago)

 

To take that a step further in his last 4 games, he really started to jump off the screen with development:

Tackles: 39 - Sacks: 1 - Pass Defended: 3 Forced Fumbles: (Still 0 obviously) - INTs: 2

 

Looking at his production that way, he started out a little hot, then cooled, then slowly went up for a few games and then shot up at the end of the year, where you want your 1st and 2nd year guys to show the best improvement. 

 

Does he need to grow / mature into a better LB? Yes, of course he does. Was he so bad that I think he needs to make a Herculean leap to be great? No, IMO he does not. To that end, IF and it's a big IF, he continues to develop at the year's end trajectory, his second year should be quite good and probably his second half of this year we'll see what Beane and McD saw when they drafted him: a STUD LB that can anchor the Defense for years to come.

I like him well enough, but I don't need no stinkin' badgers

[maryland-bills-fan]

Everybody knows that the end who they split out from the line of scimmage is called the "split end".  Would Woodie Hays lie?

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

1 minute ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Everybody knows that the end who they split out from the line of scimmage is called the "split end".  Would Woodie Hays lie?

 

Have you been waiting since 1978 to tell that, buckeye?

[maryland-bills-fan]

Just now, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Have you been waiting since 1978 to tell that, buckeye?

Actually, I spent a couple of years in Anne Arbor, so Shirley don't call me a buckeye.

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

If you could land a plane as well as Kareem, I'd let your nephew hang out in a Turkish prizon

[billsfan_34]

41 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Yes, I think many children will be born in the glory of those rules and others?

Yep- they wont know any better. Evolution at its finest!

41 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Wish granted. Lb Corp in today’s game is two guys much of the time in a 4-3 base nickel package.

 

Tre and Milano are reasonably good. 

 

~250 tackles 12 turnovers between them. Both under 25. 

Milano was having a monster season- lets hope more of the same

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Yep- they wont know any better. Evolution at its finest!

Milano was having a monster season- lets hope more of the same

Dear god I ain't gonna hope for *****, anymore

[Chandler#81]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Are we going to start calling DTs PLUG?

 

Maybe WRs should be FLANK?

 

 

That would be a recycle. #Throwback

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

QBs "THROW"?

 

I like it.

 

My none NFL supporting mate calls offensive linemen "PUSHERS". I think we are onto something.

Your mate may have some insight into the linemen's non-football activities.  Just sayin'.

[BringBackFlutie]

What can you buy with $42.76?

[The Senator]

30 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said:

What can you buy with $42.76?

 

An iPhone charger at your local Verizon store.

.

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

If Devin White is still on the board when the Bills pick, It will be real hard for them to pass on him imo. He is a game changer much like I thought Ray Lewis would be.