Bill_with_it Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Avid bills fan for 30+ years. As such I stumbled on this website after the BBMB shutdown ( very thankful). I read much more negative thoughts on the current front office than positive thoughts. Especially in regards to “filling out the team”. Im not going to push anyone’s buttons, I’m just curious to see current thoughts regarding the teams front office from all of you up until this point. Im very optimistic, I believe it’s tremendously easy to spot FO folks that are in completely over their head (Whaley, Russ). Granted our newly acquired players have not taken a snap yet, however I feel as if the team is on a uptick with much more actual functional talent as opposed to yesteryear hype. Whats your thoughts? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 They definitely aren’t shy about going and getting players they think will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) The GM and coach are on the same page, which is not always the case, and is so important for an organization's success. Without eating all of that dead money last year, this free agency doesn't happen. They have a plan and they are executing it. They got their QB. They have a solid defense in place. Now they are putting an offense together on reasonable, team friendly deals. He has acquired all these free agents and is still sitting on 10 draft picks, including a top 10 pick. Lastly, they are projected to have the most cap space in the league next year so we won't have to watch all of our own great players walk (which has been a back breaker for this franchise for years) and we should be able to continue to add talent to the roster. I'm a fan. Edited March 13, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Their first Draft was extremely well done. Last season, without much money, they seemed to try to make chicken salad out of chicken **** and as a result, some moves didn’t work out and they looked a bit foolish. However, in their first real offseason, as part of “the process”...... Wow. Strong. Edited March 13, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 About 40 million spent in two days...this tells me we should overtake the Patriots now. I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 When is Beane gonna get off his butt and do something? All the AFC East has gotten better and Beane does nothing? Sarcasm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 They have a plan set out and are following it. Hopefully it works out but still that's way better than a FO that's winging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) We will see about their player evaluation abilities with the addition of these free agents and, among other things, trading up for Allen and Edmunds last year. Ultimately, performance on the field this year will be the best way to assess this front office. I have concerns about overpaying for what I would have thought were tier two and tier three level free agents and the injury history with some of these players, but we will see. Edited March 13, 2019 by jahnyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: About 40 million spent in two days...this tells me we should overtake the Patriots now. I don't see it. Nobody has overtaken the patriots including one of the best teams in the nfl the rams. Until Brady is gone it doesn’t matter if we have drew brees, Julio Jones, Todd Gurley, or a Madden roster. If that is your barometer to which you measure NFL teams there are currently 31 failed FOs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) You have to admit that they have had a plan since they walked in here, and it looks like they have been given the time to implement it.. Compare it to Rex and Whaley years that preceded them... ( things seems a lot more "ad lib" so to speak..) This Free Agency was the part I was concerned about but I think they have done good so far ( not great, but I am a hard marker) with hopefully another big name still to come... Lot of the players they have bought have upside but also can be discarded relatively quickly if they don't work out.. ( maybe they might have learnt a lesson from Star last year perhaps?... ) I am pretty confident that they will draft well again this year so its my expectation that the team is very competitive in 2019... Edited March 13, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: Nobody has overtaken the patriots including one of the best teams in the nfl the rams. Until Brady is gone it doesn’t matter if we have drew brees, Julio Jones, Todd Gurley, or a Madden roster. If that is your barometer to which you measure NFL teams there are currently 31 failed FOs. But 40 million in spending should at the least,make us a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: But 40 million in spending should at the least,make us a playoff team. Well we were one not to long ago. Give it a year and see where we are at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Impressed! AND still have 10 picks. Still gotta make it all work, but the FO is doing a great job. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 We should be the oldest team in the league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: We should be the oldest team in the league now. Patriots were the third oldest last year, won the Super Bowl.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I loved what we were doing until I saw the OBJ deal - We need to grab one elite offensive player IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I love this front office, they seem organized and deliver on their plans. Even last year was calculated to acquire Josh Allen. 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I loved what we were doing until I saw the OBJ deal - We need to grab one elite offensive player IMO Morse was our elite offence addition. Our offence looks solid right now. We need to turn our attention to the draft at this point. Maybe one more solid signing on defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: Avid bills fan for 30+ years. As such I stumbled on this website after the BBMB shutdown ( very thankful). I read much more negative thoughts on the current front office than positive thoughts. Especially in regards to “filling out the team”. Im not going to push anyone’s buttons, I’m just curious to see current thoughts regarding the teams front office from all of you up until this point. Im very optimistic, I believe it’s tremendously easy to spot FO folks that are in completely over their head (Whaley, Russ). Granted our newly acquired players have not taken a snap yet, however I feel as if the team is on a uptick with much more actual functional talent as opposed to yesteryear hype. Whats your thoughts? You were on BBMB and you have optimism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: Avid bills fan for 30+ years. As such I stumbled on this website after the BBMB shutdown ( very thankful). I read much more negative thoughts on the current front office than positive thoughts. Especially in regards to “filling out the team”. Im not going to push anyone’s buttons, I’m just curious to see current thoughts regarding the teams front office from all of you up until this point. Im very optimistic, I believe it’s tremendously easy to spot FO folks that are in completely over their head (Whaley, Russ). Granted our newly acquired players have not taken a snap yet, however I feel as if the team is on a uptick with much more actual functional talent as opposed to yesteryear hype. Whats your thoughts? You make a very good point. Some Bills fans will always lament for the past no matter what. You’ll hear “We never should have gotten rid of __________” whenever a former Bills player or coach doesn’t anything of significance. This even happened with Nick Freaking O’Leary! Give me a break Beane deserves more of a shot than SOME fans have given him. On the other hand, he does have a lot to prove still. But the fact is, he made the playoffs for the 1st time in 2 decades in his 1st year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, billspro said: I love this front office, they seem organized and deliver on their plans. Even last year was calculated to acquire Josh Allen. Morse was our elite offence addition. Our offence looks solid right now. We need to turn our attention to the draft at this point. Maybe one more solid signing on defence. My head agrees, my heart wants more lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: My head agrees, my heart wants more lol They might still add a big time edge rusher. I think they are done adding WRs. They might add one more in the draft. I would expect the draft to start with DT and TE now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I loved what we were doing until I saw the OBJ deal - We need to grab one elite offensive player IMO Too high of a price for sure, plus OBJ is not a process guy. He has also had a number of injuries since coming in the league. Glad someone else gave up the farm for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I think we are finally getting the chance to see what the brianstrust can do with some cash. Having a quarterback allows them to ignore that position and really focus on targeting specific upgrades for the team. Now I don't know if it's going to work, but it will all hinge how Allen develops. I'm cautiously optimistic at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MJS said: Too high of a price for sure, plus OBJ is not a process guy. He has also had a number of injuries since coming in the league. Glad someone else gave up the farm for him. Oh it was - I do like Bell and covet a big time pass catcher (TE or WR) I also get this: Edited March 13, 2019 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsVet Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Their first Draft was extremely well done. Last season, without much money, they seemed to try to make chicken salad out of chicken **** and as a result, some moves didn’t work out and they looked a bit foolish. However, in their first real offseason, as part of “the process”...... Wow. Strong. What happened to the first 2 off-seasons? Not the process? 1 hour ago, jahnyc said: We will see about their player evaluation abilities with the addition of these free agents and, among other things, trading up for Allen and Edmunds last year. Ultimately, performance on the field this year will be the best way to assess this front office. I have concerns about overpaying for what I would have thought were tier two and tier three level free agents and the injury history with some of these players, but we will see. People have short memories. Their free agent moves last year, as others have pointed out, were not good. You'd hope they got their stuff straight this year and those signings of guys not named Morse will bear a better return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I’ll say this about Beane. Dude must never sleep. Seems like he’s in on every every player who’s available or might be available. In addition to not being out-worked by anyone, he also seems to have great relationships with other GM’s and player agents. Beane seems like a rising star but it’s all gonna come down to Josh Allen for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BillsVet said: What happened to the first 2 off-seasons? Not the process? People have short memories. Their free agent moves last year, as others have pointed out, were not good. You'd hope they got their stuff straight this year and those signings of guys not named Morse will bear a better return. Absolutly part of the process, but it’s tough to judge anything when they were in “tear it down mode”. That did that very well I suppose. Edited March 13, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Oh it was - I do like Bell and covet a big time pass catcher (TE or WR) I also get this: THAT was worth repeating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On paper they upgraded a bunch of positions without getting saddled with long term commitments. Beane seems to be intent in not getting back into salary cap hell. Lot to like so far and they still have plenty of cap space to chase even a splash signing. Draft should be a lot of fun since they now have a lot more flexibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Bill_with_it said: Avid bills fan for 30+ years. As such I stumbled on this website after the BBMB shutdown ( very thankful). I read much more negative thoughts on the current front office than positive thoughts. Especially in regards to “filling out the team”. Im not going to push anyone’s buttons, I’m just curious to see current thoughts regarding the teams front office from all of you up until this point. Im very optimistic, I believe it’s tremendously easy to spot FO folks that are in completely over their head (Whaley, Russ). Granted our newly acquired players have not taken a snap yet, however I feel as if the team is on a uptick with much more actual functional talent as opposed to yesteryear hype. Whats your thoughts? This past year when i was looking up and down the roster i was thinking to myself where is our Julian Edelman, Wes Welker, Darren Sproles, Austin Ekler type of player and then the Bills go out and sign 2 of those types of players in Cole Beasley and John Brown, I'm ecstatic about John Brown because not only is he a speed demon but he has a great set of hands to go along with it and Beasley catches everything. These 2 players are the types of guys the Patriots, Chargers, Eagles and the other good solid playoff caliber teams get and I wouldn't be surprised if we get more like them at positions like RB, CB who are versatile and bring other things to the table. I'm a little bit I don't want to say disappointed about the OL moves because I'm not, I love the Mitch Morse signing and he deserved the highest C pay, the dude hasn't allowed a sack since 2015, he will anchor this OL and were set there, I'm good with Dawkins at LT I think he'll bounce back from last season but the rest of the OL is all based off potential, The G we picked up from the Jets got straight up benched and he wasn't good on the Jets at all, I really like the G from the Raiders Jon Feliciano pickup but they are banking that he'll be a starting caliber G and that remains to be seen, not saying he can't but if not then what's the plan? Same for the RT pickup of Ty Nsekhe, the guy seems awesome and the signs all point to a decent starting RT but what if he isn't? I know we have the draft coming up but again these kids are potential also and will be learning on the fly. I'd love to see a pickup of Quinton Spain or Darryl Williams to put that at ease. We'd then have 3 legit starting OL and 2 potential guysat said positions but i still really like the moves. I love the CB Kevin Johnson signing, I followed him in college, he is an excellent fit here and will be a fan favorite for sure, paired with White and the other Johnson plus Hyde and Poyer that can be a dominant group. The only concern is Johnson has never been able to stay healthy and it's always been his downfall so heres to hoping because that was a very under the radar pick that could become the best one of the bunch I wasn't a fan of the frank Gore pickup, I get he still has some life left and he's a leader but for 2M I would have spent it elsewhere and i still hope we draft one in the mid rounds, maybe an Austin Ekler type. We have Ezekiel Ansah coming in tomorrow for a workout, if his medical checks out I'd love to sign him, again some medical issues but we need pass rushers in a very bad way and still think we draft one also. All these contracts are front loaded in case some backfire we have the option to bail on all of them so Beane has done a masterful job getting guys who fit what were trying to do here and we still have plenty of room left to make moves if necessary I'm very pleased at what they've done so far. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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