TOboy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, Logic said: I think he's just saying that the fact they WANT a 1st round pick doesn't mean they'll get one. I want a toilet made of solid gold, but nobody has that. Err...wait. Individual 1 has that. I can't think of anyone else, though. I may be able to help you....for a price 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, TOboy said: I may be able to help you....for a price why is there a hinge there? A hidey hole to get a good view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: why is there a hinge there? A hidey hole to get a good view? You don't have one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: why is there a hinge there? A hidey hole to get a good view? Trump dump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: why is there a hinge there? A hidey hole to get a good view? Escape hatch to Russia if the IRS comes calling... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, TOboy said: I may be able to help you....for a price Trump dump I believe the bills might have tapped out on the Clark talks. Maybe he doesn't want to play in buffalo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, TOboy said: You don't have one? uh nnno... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, TOboy said: I may be able to help you....for a price I don’t want to know what they did to R2D2 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: was this already posted? Source: Seahawks want 1st-rounder for DE Clark They better alter their expectations or pay the guy. Chandler Jones netted the Pats a late 2nd round pick, at the same age Clark is now with roughly the same output. The Bears killed the market for a trade like this last year. If Beane can get Clark for a 2nd or 3rd, I'd say go for it. Leave the 1st out of the discussions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 18 hours ago, wppete said: Frank Clark plays like Jerry Hughes just a little bigger and longer. But man would it be scary to have those two guys coming off the edge. And hopefully we draft either Ed Oliver or Christian Wilkins at #9. Another takeaway from this video: Jarran Reed was a steal of second round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Tbh, I wouldn't bother offering anything until after the draft. Seahawks are going to be up against it in the not too distant, cap wise, and they may have to take a low ball offer for Clark, just to get his cap hit off the books. Staying at #9, the Bills are quite likely going to be able to find some D-Line help, that will also lessen the need for Clark. The time the Seahawks could maybe have done better in respect of a pick for Clark, was before Wilson got his new deal. Now everyone knows it's going to be tougher for them in the next year or two to retain guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, Buddo said: Tbh, I wouldn't bother offering anything until after the draft. Seahawks are going to be up against it in the not too distant, cap wise, and they may have to take a low ball offer for Clark, just to get his cap hit off the books. Staying at #9, the Bills are quite likely going to be able to find some D-Line help, that will also lessen the need for Clark. The time the Seahawks could maybe have done better in respect of a pick for Clark, was before Wilson got his new deal. Now everyone knows it's going to be tougher for them in the next year or two to retain guys. Not really. They have enough cap room to sign their draft picks right now, and can create more by letting go of guys like Mychal Kendricks or Jaron Brown if they wanted to do so. If they don't get an offer that they like, they'll let Clark walk after the season and get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him in 2021. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Peter King in his mock saying that KC will give up a 1st and 2nd for him... (Picks 29 and 63..) Yikes! Too rich for my blood... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/22/nfl-mock-draft-fmia-peter-king/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Peter King in his mock saying that KC will give up a 1st and 2nd for him... (Picks 29 and 63..) Yikes! Too rich for my blood... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/22/nfl-mock-draft-fmia-peter-king/ How can they afford to pay him? Plus, don’t they need their picks for the holes on defense? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: How can they afford to pay him? Plus, don’t they need their picks for the holes on defense? Cant say Im an expert on KC salary cap situation but just had a look at spotrac... Its tight but they could squeeze him in with maybe a $12Mil hit in 2019 and then about a $23 Mil hit in 2020 and another similar in 2021... They would also be left with another 2nd and 3rd pick so they would still have a pretty normal draft with Clark as their Round 1... They are in their rookie window with Mahomes so might be time to go all in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 If KC wants to cough up their 1st and 2nd rd picks for Clark (AND pay him $20 mill/yr) fine. There's no way the Bills should do that. Let KC screw themselves over and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: If KC wants to cough up their 1st and 2nd rd picks for Clark (AND pay him $20 mill/yr) fine. There's no way the Bills should do that. Let KC screw themselves over and move on. Our #9 pick is still worth more I believe...just sayin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Cant say Im an expert on KC salary cap situation but just had a look at spotrac... Its tight but they could squeeze him in with maybe a $12Mil hit in 2019 and then about a $23 Mil hit in 2020 and another similar in 2021... They would also be left with another 2nd and 3rd pick so they would still have a pretty normal draft with Clark as their Round 1... They are in their rookie window with Mahomes so might be time to go all in... They just cut their woman beating running back a few months ago, now they’re dealing with their star receiver beating his child...can they bring in another player with spousal abuse in his past into that building without the media crushing them?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Peter King in his mock saying that KC will give up a 1st and 2nd for him... (Picks 29 and 63..) Yikes! Too rich for my blood... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/22/nfl-mock-draft-fmia-peter-king/ Sounds like a waste especially when Reid will coach them into another playoff letdown anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Would it be crazy to offer Seattle a 1st round swap for Clark? I don't know if they'd take it, but if we're looking for a pass rusher anyway Clark is a young player that's effective in the league as opposed to the 50% bust rate for pass rushers and is at an age where I'd be comfortable paying a contract. Then I still get to pick at 21. I don't know if Seattle takes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, y2zipper said: Would it be crazy to offer Seattle a 1st round swap for Clark? I don't know if they'd take it, but if we're looking for a pass rusher anyway Clark is a young player that's effective in the league as opposed to the 50% bust rate for pass rushers and is at an age where I'd be comfortable paying a contract. Then I still get to pick at 21. I don't know if Seattle takes it. Been suggested a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Peter King in his mock saying that KC will give up a 1st and 2nd for him... (Picks 29 and 63..) Yikes! Too rich for my blood... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/22/nfl-mock-draft-fmia-peter-king/ Well, when you drop fiddy and LOSE, you need pass rush help! 1 hour ago, PIZ said: I wonder why. Process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Rufridr101 said: Maybe he doesn't want to play in buffalo. This is something the franchise will face until they can win important games etc. And something they will always face due to lackluster nightlife & garbage weather. I saw on NFLN last night 3 teams in on Clark, Bills were not listed as one of the teams, I figured he already pulled an AB on Beane. Edited April 23, 2019 by MacGyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Well, when you drop fiddy and LOSE, you need pass rush help! I wonder why. Process? ...I would guess the advertised "1st tariff"....BUT....it probably changes come draft day.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, MacGyver said: This is something the franchise will face until they can win important games etc. And something they will always face due to lackluster nightlife & garbage weather. I saw on NFLN last night 3 teams in on Clark, Bills were not listed as one of the teams, I figured he already pulled an AB on Beane. Speaking of garbage...this post qualifies. If Seattle is insisting on a 1st for Clark I'm glad Beane is out. "Lackluster nightlife" as a reason players won't come to Buffalo...I'm still laughing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, eball said: "Lackluster nightlife" as a reason players won't come to Buffalo...I'm still laughing... That can matter to wealthy 20-something human males... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 16 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: They better alter their expectations or pay the guy. Chandler Jones netted the Pats a late 2nd round pick, at the same age Clark is now with roughly the same output. The Bears killed the market for a trade like this last year. If Beane can get Clark for a 2nd or 3rd, I'd say go for it. Leave the 1st out of the discussions. The Shehawks have $10 Mil in cap space. barely enough for the rookie class and they still have 22 roster spots to fill to get to 90. they have work to do to settle their house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MacGyver said: That can matter to wealthy 20-something human males... Not if they have a good head on their shoulders and advisors who make sure they really understand what's important. Also less relevant to players with wives/families. With the average length of an NFL career being less than 5 years, worrying about where to get your groove on should be extremely low on the list of factors when considering FA destinations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Until a deal is done for Clark we can’t assume the Bills are out. The asking price will likely drop as the draft nears/begins, and then we’ll see who is willing to pay up and meet Seattle’s lowered demands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, eball said: Not if they have a good head on their shoulders and advisors who make sure they really understand what's important. Do you remember being 20-something? lol Listening to adults is not high on the list. Edited April 23, 2019 by MacGyver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, MacGyver said: Do you remember being 20-something? lol Listening to adults is not high on the list. When I was 20-something I wasn't being offered millions of dollars to keep myself at peak performance to play a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Peter king saying chiefs willing to give up 1st and 2nd makes no sense. If that's the offer deal would be done. That information seems like a leak to drive up the bids. I noticed yesterday the jets said they were no longer interested in Clark. This isn't the case, I believe this is to strengthen their hand they hold with the 3rd pick. If a team knows your desperate to trade down to make another trade for a player they hold the leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rufridr101 said: Peter king saying chiefs willing to give up 1st and 2nd makes no sense. If that's the offer deal would be done. That information seems like a leak to drive up the bids. I noticed yesterday the jets said they were no longer interested in Clark. This isn't the case, I believe this is to strengthen their hand they hold with the 3rd pick. If a team knows your desperate to trade down to make another trade for a player they hold the leverage. This is the time of the year where we just have to be patient and wait until Thursday. So much misdirection in the last few days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, eball said: Not if they have a good head on their shoulders and advisors who make sure they really understand what's important. Also less relevant to players with wives/families. With the average length of an NFL career being less than 5 years, worrying about where to get your groove on should be extremely low on the list of factors when considering FA destinations. totally agree. And Buffalo has an adequate night life, IMO. (and I don't live there). Compared to a city like KC, it's more than adequate. It's like how Jim B recruits players to Syracuse when asked about the weather, he said something like, "during winter you are always in the guy. After the season it's spring, summer and fall." And if a player wants to be "the guy" in a city, going to NYC will not do that. Too many athletes competing for attention. In Buffalo, you can be the guy. Edited April 23, 2019 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Interesting... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: totally agree. And Buffalo has an adequate night life, IMO. (and I don't live there). Compared to a city like KC, it's more than adequate. It's like how Jim B recruits players to Syracuse when asked about the weather, he said something like, "during winter you are always in the guy. After the season it's spring, summer and fall." And if a player wants to be "the guy" in a city, going to NYC will not do that. Too many athletes competing for attention. In Buffalo, you can be the guy. What kind of a program is Boeheim running up there anyway???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, wppete said: im with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Anyone know who Gary Smith is? And seems to me, if they've waited this long on Ziggy, it might've been to see how things shake out in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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