PUNT750 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The NFLPA is already telling players to "save money" in preparation for a 2021 strike. TV ratings are down. Super Bowl ratings are down. Fans seem to be more interested in Free agency and the Draft than the 16 games over a Sunday, Monday & Thursday. Games are getting boring. Players salaries are going up. Commercial rates are going up. When will this lovely little bubble burst? It's just entertainment - that's it. AND - that's where the AAF comes in. IF there is a strike what better group to take over the TV dead space? NFL head coaches, NFL Management and the NFL Network already showing the games. Why do the players have to be mega-millionaires to play professional football? There are so many great athletes that just don't get a shot. What do you think ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 TV ratings are actually up from last year.. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 It feels like you made a bunch up to create a soap opera narrative 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: The NFLPA is already telling players to "save money" in preparation for a 2021 strike. TV ratings are down. Super Bowl ratings are down. Fans seem to be more interested in Free agency and the Draft than the 16 games over a Sunday, Monday & Thursday. Games are getting boring. Players salaries are going up. Commercial rates are going up. When will this lovely little bubble burst? It's just entertainment - that's it. AND - that's where the AAF comes in. IF there is a strike what better group to take over the TV dead space? NFL head coaches, NFL Management and the NFL Network already showing the games. Why do the players have to be mega-millionaires to play professional football? There are so many great athletes that just don't get a shot. What do you think ??? A) The AAF has no chance of overtaking the NFL. B) In the event that the impossible occurred, players in said league would be paid in accordance with the revenue generated. C) NFL players are multi millionaires because people want to watch premier athletes play football and they'll pay for it in a multitude of ways. It's called capitalism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: The NFLPA is already telling players to "save money" in preparation for a 2021 strike. TV ratings are down. Super Bowl ratings are down. Fans seem to be more interested in Free agency and the Draft than the 16 games over a Sunday, Monday & Thursday. Games are getting boring. Players salaries are going up. Commercial rates are going up. When will this lovely little bubble burst? It's just entertainment - that's it. AND - that's where the AAF comes in. IF there is a strike what better group to take over the TV dead space? NFL head coaches, NFL Management and the NFL Network already showing the games. Why do the players have to be mega-millionaires to play professional football? There are so many great athletes that just don't get a shot. What do you think ??? Says "Practice Squad" under you name...fitting. Bad info in it and also the AAF is as much of a threat to the NFL as Canada is to invading and taking over the US. Edited February 19, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) This was tough to follow. From the title I thought you meant that the NFL would try to work some AAF clause into the next CBA. The AAF is not trying, and will never try to, compete with the NFL. When they try, the league will have zero chance of success. They know it has to be a partnership and cooperation with the NFL. The first point that dispels your theory is the time frame. The AAF doesn’t even run the same time as the NFL, and they will not adjust it just for one possible lockout season. Edited February 19, 2019 by Bills2ref 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: A) The AAF has no chance of overtaking the NFL. B) In the event that the impossible occurred, players in said league would be paid in accordance with the revenue generated. C) NFL players are multi millionaires because people want to watch premier athletes play football and they'll pay for it in a multitude of ways. It's called capitalism. You're misunderstanding me. The AAF IS the NFL. The current NFL players get paid millions only because the Players Assoc. promotes them to be "stars". 26 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Says "Practice Squad" under you name...fitting. Bad info in it and also the AAF is as much of a threat to the NFL as Canada is to invading and taking over the US. The AAF is the NFL - - - look into it! Why would the games be on the NFL Network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PUNT750 said: There are so many great athletes that just don't get a shot. It's pretty apparent 90% of the AAF guys aren't up to NFL level. Especially offensively. I like having farm leagues like NFL Europe, CFL to get those guys that do slip through the cracks.. Cameron Wake, Flutie, Warner, Delhomme, Warren Moon. There's definitely guys that completely slip through the cracks but certainly not enough for a league to take over whatsoever. Best case scenario they can get some sort of NFL affiliation designation I guess? To be profitable and farm quality talent to get bought out and sort of be like a more effective version of the NFL Europe model. Keep it primarily in the South too. They were smart picking markets. Can't go wrong picking teams in any decent sized city in Florida or Texas alone without an NFL team. 23 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: The AAF is the NFL - - - look into it! Why would the games be on the NFL Network? Oh well that already answers my points ^ I think it'sa great idea all around for the reason you mentioned. NFL Europe was great as a farm league. It just really shouldn't have been in Europe lol. I'm apparent why the AAF isn't making it's NFL affiliation more important. Should be a decent marketing idea to show the fans.. unless posing as an alternate league has it's merit. Edited February 19, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: You're misunderstanding me. The AAF IS the NFL. The current NFL players get paid millions only because the Players Assoc. promotes them to be "stars". I understand you perfectly well. What you're saying is that you don't want athletes to get paid commensurate with the revenue they generate. Not quite sure if you're serious or not, but this is silly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Fans are more interested in the free agency and the draft than actual games??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Fans are more interested in the free agency and the draft than actual games??? Really, this isn't the NBA you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Fans are more interested in the free agency and the draft than actual games??? That's good for the Bills since we're ALWAYS winning the offseason 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The AAF is the NFL? It's ridiculous that I didn't realize that sooner. obviously the lovely little bubble is about to burst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, PUNT750 said: The NFLPA is already telling players to "save money" in preparation for a 2021 strike. TV ratings are down. Super Bowl ratings are down. Fans seem to be more interested in Free agency and the Draft than the 16 games over a Sunday, Monday & Thursday. Games are getting boring. Players salaries are going up. Commercial rates are going up. When will this lovely little bubble burst? It's just entertainment - that's it. AND - that's where the AAF comes in. IF there is a strike what better group to take over the TV dead space? NFL head coaches, NFL Management and the NFL Network already showing the games. Why do the players have to be mega-millionaires to play professional football? There are so many great athletes that just don't get a shot. What do you think ??? What do we think about what? I really don't understand what you are trying to say here. Are you suggesting NFL players are gonna wake up and decide to forego large multi million dollar contracts, $20m, $50m, $100m contracts just to make $250,000 over 3 years to play a more violent version of football in the AAF? Never going to happen. The only people who will ever play in the AAF are guys who don't have an NFL job. Any NFL players on strike will remain on strike and enjoy the time off, not risk injury playing a season in the AAF for less than they make for one game in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Says "Practice Squad" under you name...fitting. Bad info in it and also the AAF is as much of a threat to the NFL as Canada is to invading and taking over the US. Thats what we let you think.............Mwahaha!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I think the aaf and nfl are going to become officially linked at that point- PS dudes will be linked to a team in league or some such thing. AAF is not coming near NFL and i like AAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Says "Practice Squad" under you name...fitting. Bad info in it and also the AAF is as much of a threat to the NFL as Canada is to invading and taking over the US. But I *WANT* Canada to invader US, take us over and make us civilized. I could see AAF players joining teams crossing picket lines but AAF will not take over TV slot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Nah. People won't care. If there's one thing we know about American fans it's that they're only secondarily interested in pro leagues that are not at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 hours ago, PUNT750 said: The NFLPA is already telling players to "save money" in preparation for a 2021 strike. TV ratings are down. Super Bowl ratings are down. Fans seem to be more interested in Free agency and the Draft than the 16 games over a Sunday, Monday & Thursday. Games are getting boring. Players salaries are going up. Commercial rates are going up. When will this lovely little bubble burst? It's just entertainment - that's it. AND - that's where the AAF comes in. IF there is a strike what better group to take over the TV dead space? NFL head coaches, NFL Management and the NFL Network already showing the games. Why do the players have to be mega-millionaires to play professional football? There are so many great athletes that just don't get a shot. What do you think ??? Because the owners make billions on the players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillsSB2020 said: A) The AAF has no chance of overtaking the NFL. B) In the event that the impossible occurred, players in said league would be paid in accordance with the revenue generated. C) NFL players are multi millionaires because people want to watch premier athletes play football and they'll pay for it in a multitude of ways. It's called capitalism. Have you happened to notice AAF is being promoted by the NFL. The players already get paid enough. They are a bunch of greedy ******* Edited February 19, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Says "Practice Squad" under you name...fitting. Bad info in it and also the AAF is as much of a threat to the NFL as Canada is to invading and taking over the US. ...uh oh.....we need another wall....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 AAF is the NFL.... and Finkle is Einhorn. Now it makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 10 hours ago, PUNT750 said: You're misunderstanding me. The AAF IS the NFL. The current NFL players get paid millions only because the Players Assoc. promotes them to be "stars". The AAF is the NFL - - - look into it! Why would the games be on the NFL Network? Because it's free programming for a 24 hr sports network? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 If the AAF demonstrates viability - lasting more than three seasons without teams in financial trouble - I foresee it becoming the developmental league for NFL front office, coaches, players and referees. The NFL is the only major professional sport that lacks minor league infrastructure for its personnel. It's a win/win for the NFL. They get to expand rosters, football is on TV nearly the entire year, the NFL is in smaller markets, and perhaps even the quality of personnel will be improved if there is a stop between the college and pro game. I also see it as a way to keep NFL players who get into trouble in the game until they can get back into the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 What I think is hilarious is the idea that the NFLPA is planning on a strike! What do they want now? They’ve already gotten rid of tackling, practicing in pads, and a whole bunch of offseason requirements. What now? Come on man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 12 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I'm apparent why the AAF isn't making it's NFL affiliation more important. Should be a decent marketing idea to show the fans.. unless posing as an alternate league has it's merit. Probably because they are keeping the AAF at arm's length for now, until it's success is more assured. Also to avoid being caught up in any litigation should the AAF go sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Although the league continues to generate significant revenues, there are some potentially troubling signs for the NFL. St. Louis, Oakland, and San Diego recently turned their backs on the league. There were a number of large corporations that were conspicuously absent from advertising in the Super Bowl. The television viewership for the Super Bowl this year was the lowest that it has been in 10 years. Significant numbers of people stopped watching the NFL because of the national anthem controversy. The league and the NFLPA know all of these things and much more. A strike in 2021 would drive more fans away. The advice from the NFLPA to the players to save money in advance of the contract negotiations, is common union advice given in any industry going into a contract year. I don't read anything ominous in any of that. All of that being said, both sides stand to lose more than they could ever hope to gain. The problems will come if a faction of radical players or radical owners drive the narrative to a stalemate and cause a strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 11 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Have you happened to notice AAF is being promoted by the NFL. The players already get paid enough. They are a bunch of greedy ******* Without the best players, there is no league. Where do you think that money should go? All of it to the owners? It's simple supply and demand. If people stopped attending games or watching them, then their value would diminish. Capitalism plain and simple. They are paid in accordance with their market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: What I think is hilarious is the idea that the NFLPA is planning on a strike! What do they want now? They’ve already gotten rid of tackling, practicing in pads, and a whole bunch of offseason requirements. What now? Come on man! They want to eliminate drug tests. Pot is "legal" now, this unapproved drug helps this issue, etc. They also want fines/suspensions on penalties removed. They really need 2 unions - one for bad boys and one for not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I really don't see the owners changing much as far as the players go. I am more concerned with the big market teams doing something stupid to gain an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 hours ago, Limeaid said: They want to eliminate drug tests. Pot is "legal" now, this unapproved drug helps this issue, etc. They also want fines/suspensions on penalties removed. They really need 2 unions - one for bad boys and one for not. Seems like pot use could only be legal in states where it’s legal. That issue doesn’t seem worthy of a strike to me. And eliminating fines doesn’t seem like it rises to that level either. It can’t effect that many players in any given year. I sure hope they have more than that to complain about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 2/19/2019 at 8:57 AM, SoCal Deek said: What I think is hilarious is the idea that the NFLPA is planning on a strike! What do they want now? They’ve already gotten rid of tackling, practicing in pads, and a whole bunch of offseason requirements. What now? Come on man! They want fully guaranteed contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Seems like pot use could only be legal in states where it’s legal. That issue doesn’t seem worthy of a strike to me. And eliminating fines doesn’t seem like it rises to that level either. It can’t effect that many players in any given year. I sure hope they have more than that to complain about! That could get tricky as the job literally entails traveling across the country for half the season. If a player from the Bengals were to test positive for pot, who's to say he didn't smoke it on the teams recent trip to Denver or Seattle? The AAF has no intention of ever overtaking the NFL. If anybody plans on trying to take advantage of this hypothetically happening, it would be the XFL, who will fail miserably. Even if the NFL goes on strike, and the XFL decides to start playing in fall, once the Strike is over, the NFL is dead. Plus, the timeline wouldn't work. The AFL/XFL seasons end around April or May. The NFL will procrastinate as long as possible before canceling games when/if this occurs. We probably won't know until sometime in July or even August if that happens. That's not enough time to get a league, especially a minor league to get back up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 I am NOT SAYING the AAF will replace the NFL in the event of a strike. IF the strike is prolonged then it could be a possibility!! Some things make sense in altering the Collective Bargaining Agreement: 1) No kick-Offs 2) Only 2 Point Conversions 3) No time-outs for commercials 4) Split Screen Commercials 5) Quick Video Reviews - - and KEEP THE PAYROLLS UNDER CONTROL! Push it on the Union!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: They want fully guaranteed contracts. It’s funny that they already allow fully guaranteed deals but players opt for the other. Only cousins and that raiders cb are ones I remember who got fully guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: I am NOT SAYING the AAF will replace the NFL in the event of a strike. IF the strike is prolonged then it could be a possibility!! Some things make sense in altering the Collective Bargaining Agreement: 1) No kick-Offs 2) Only 2 Point Conversions 3) No time-outs for commercials 4) Split Screen Commercials 5) Quick Video Reviews - - and KEEP THE PAYROLLS UNDER CONTROL! Push it on the Union!!! I think most posters get the gist. You want the owners to retain more of the profit and the athletes to retain less. I fundamentally disagree with this, but you're entitled to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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