RPbillsfan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 As the first domino in the QB market fell yesterday what is the implications to the Bills and potential trade down options. QB Possible destinations: NY Giants - have Eli, Haskins is best QB in this draft but Murray is very tempting. Jacksonville - Cap issues need to be cleared to allow Nick Foles to be brought on Dolphins - Tannehill to be cut, Bridgewater probable pick-up in "two win for Tua" season Bengals - Tannehill reunited with new HC, Dalton trade bait Redskins - Smith out for the year maybe Dalton Tyrod to Ravens to be Back-up for Jackson Looks as though there is no trade down for teams looking for a QB Haskins and Murray go in 1st round, Lock slips to late 1st, maybe Chargers or Patriots Bills stay at 9 and select BPA at position of highest need after free agency 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Signing an injury prone QB in his mid 30s changes nothing. Denver are as likely to draft a QB at now as they were 72 hours ago. There are no implications at all to Buffalo. Edited February 14, 2019 by Mountain Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Why would Cincy want Tannehill over Dalton?? Thats a downgrade. 3 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Signing an injury prone QB in his mid 30s changes nothing. Denver are as likely to draft a QB at now as they were 72 hours ago. There are no implications at all to Buffalo. Not to mention one that isn't and never has been very good during the regular season. Edited February 14, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Why would Cincy want Tannehill over Dalton?? Thats a downgrade. Not to mention one that isn't and never has been very good during the regular season. Connection between new Bengal HC and Tannehill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RPbillsfan said: Connection between new Bengal HC and Tannehill Dalton to Tannehill is a massive downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: Connection between new Bengal HC and Tannehill So what? Doesn't mean he wants Tannehill. If you drove a Chevy Cobalt for 10 years but had a chance to updlgrade it for free wouldn't you do it? These "connections" get way overbloen in the NFL...if he was a good to very good to elite player and an upgrade its one thing...if he is some "meh" player that is a downgrade that's another... Unless Tannehill doesn't find a starting job and ends up there as a backup... I mean he would be an elite backup but as a long term starter "meh" Edited February 14, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Also Kase Keenum is probably going to be traded or cut from Denver, he's at the very least a decent backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) I don’t know if Tyrod is still repping for that eyeglass frames company, but if so, they are getting bang for their geographic buck, if he schleps off to Baltimore. Edited February 14, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I don’t see why Tyrod would be in Baltimore. They seemed to really like RGIII.. I would actually expect tyrod more to the jags. Even if they land Foles, Taylor is exactly what they have been looking for. Someone who can make a play every so often, but will not turn the ball over. I would also think Tannehill to the redskins or even giants. Dalton probably stays put, although I wouldn’t be surprised for Cincy to be a surprise team to nab one of the top quarterbacks in the draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t see why Tyrod would be in Baltimore. They seemed to really like RGIII.. I would actually expect tyrod more to the jags. Even if they land Foles, Taylor is exactly what they have been looking for. Someone who can make a play every so often, but will not turn the ball over. I would also think Tannehill to the redskins or even giants. Dalton probably stays put, although I wouldn’t be surprised for Cincy to be a surprise team to nab one of the top quarterbacks in the draft . . . and I think Marrone would really love TT's ball-security skills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Don't think Denver is going QB in Round 1. Didn't before and don't now. Still say it is only 2 QBs in round 1 - Haskins and Murray. Lock and Jones will go round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t see why Tyrod would be in Baltimore. They seemed to really like RGIII.. I would actually expect tyrod more to the jags. Even if they land Foles, Taylor is exactly what they have been looking for. Someone who can make a play every so often, but will not turn the ball over. I would also think Tannehill to the redskins or even giants. Dalton probably stays put, although I wouldn’t be surprised for Cincy to be a surprise team to nab one of the top quarterbacks in the draft Taylor is a better QB than RG III and -- more importantly -- a much better runner at this point given the leg injuries to the latter. He's a better fit for that offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Don't think Denver is going QB in Round 1. Didn't before and don't now. Still say it is only 2 QBs in round 1 - Haskins and Murray. Lock and Jones will go round 2. You have to wonder what the Broncos would do if Bowlen was still involved. I imagine Elway still has a very long leash. If I owned the Broncos, I'd mandate QB or get out. It's been 5 years since Peyton Manning retired and they have nothing at the most important position in football. Just now, dave mcbride said: Taylor is a better QB than RG III and -- more importantly -- a much better runner at this point given the leg injuries to the latter. He's a better fit for that offense. Tyrod probably wants to start, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: You have to wonder what the Broncos would do if Bowlen was still involved. I imagine Elway still has a very long leash. If I owned the Broncos, I'd mandate QB or get out. It's been 5 years since Peyton Manning retired and they have nothing at the most important position in football. Tyrod probably wants to start, though. My guess is he now knows that that ship has sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: As the first domino in the QB market fell yesterday what is the implications to the Bills and potential trade down options. QB Possible destinations: NY Giants - have Eli, Haskins is best QB in this draft but Murray is very tempting. Jacksonville - Cap issues need to be cleared to allow Nick Foles to be brought on Dolphins - Tannehill to be cut, Bridgewater probable pick-up in "two win for Tua" season Bengals - Tannehill reunited with new HC, Dalton trade bait Redskins - Smith out for the year maybe Dalton Tyrod to Ravens to be Back-up for Jackson Looks as though there is no trade down for teams looking for a QB Haskins and Murray go in 1st round, Lock slips to late 1st, maybe Chargers or Patriots Bills stay at 9 and select BPA at position of highest need after free agency No Bills take BPA at whatever position that is. I also dont think Joe Flacco keeps them from drafting a QB. None of these QBs outside of Bridgewater keep me from drafting a QB. Edited February 14, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: My guess is he now knows that that ship has sailed. Ha ha no way! TT is nothing if not delusional about the abilities of TT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Ha ha no way! TT is nothing if not delusional about the abilities of TT. I don't think that's true. What's your evidence for that claim? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I don't think that's true. What's your evidence for that claim? "“It’s always going to be twice as bad just because of who I am – an African-American quarterback,” Taylor said. “Look across the league, man. We’re held to a certain standard. We almost have to be perfect." My man thought the criticism about having 6 TD's through 5 games was because he was black. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I caught flak on here last year for insisting that Denver wasn't going QB in the first. I turned out to be right. This year, I predict that they will. John Elway has to double down and get a QB or else he will be gone. This is his last off season to get it right and If Lock is there at 10 he will be going to Denver. Just my thought on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: "“It’s always going to be twice as bad just because of who I am – an African-American quarterback,” Taylor said. “Look across the league, man. We’re held to a certain standard. We almost have to be perfect." My man thought the criticism about having 6 TD's through 5 games was because he was black. That comment was from two years ago, not last season. The situation has changed, to say the least, given what transpired last season. He performed poorly, was benched, was outperformed by his successor, and will be 30 in August. Assuming he's not a stupid person - and he's not - he's likely envisioning a future in which gets paid as an NFL backup for another 5-6-7 years. That's good money and a good job to have. He's never been anything but cautious and a team player (going back the Baltimore, where he was universally liked) despite what some of the more unreasonable people on this board seem to believe. Edited February 14, 2019 by dave mcbride 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: That comment was from two years ago, not last season. The situation has changed, to say the least, given what transpired last season. He performed poorly, was benched, was outperformed by his successor, and will be 30 in August. Assuming he's not a stupid person - and he's not - he's likely envisioning a future in which gets paid as an NFL backup for another 5-6-7 years. That's good money and a good job to have. He's never been anything but cautious and a team player (going back the Baltimore, where he was universally liked) despite what some of the more unreasonable people on this board seem to believe. That comment was proof positive that he's delusional. Delusional people act under their delusions. Maybe you're right and Taylor's woken up. We'll find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: Taylor is a better QB than RG III and -- more importantly -- a much better runner at this point given the leg injuries to the latter. He's a better fit for that offense. Minus the fact RGIII already knows the offense and team. He did something right last year with their coaches to stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Why do people think that having Flacco precludes Denver from drafting a QB in the first round? I mean, the Ravens had Flacco and they drafted a QB in the first round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Connection between new Bengal HC and Tannehill That's a stretch. Also a possible recipe to get a coach fired when Tannehill bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 A lot of if’s on this thread. Why don’t we stay focused on free agency, and then move onto the draft. Everything will shake out by late March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I was really clinging to that "trade back a spot with Denver for a pick....then trade again down into the teams for another 2nd rounder" dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I still think Washington will draft a QB to be a long term solution to their problem. They may bring in a lower cost FA to get through 2019 but I don't think they see any of the guys that are available as their long term answer. They still owe A. Smith a hefty sum and will be hard pressed to pay a FA big money for 2019. I hope Washington becomes sold on one of the top guys QB's in the draft and gets nervous about someone jumping in ahead of them. Nine may turn out to be the sweet spot. The only thing I've grown to expect is the unexpected when it comes to Beane in the draft. Since we don't need a QB, the Bills can go a number of different ways and still end up with a great draft. Free agency moves will give us an indication of draft direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I dont think trading for Flacco takes QB in the 1st round off the table for the Broncos. They traded a 4th rounder for Flacco, he's 34 years old, he hasn't been a good QB in a while and most importantly his remaining 3 years have no dead cap of and when hes cut. I view him as a stopgap that they like a little bit more than their current stopgap in Case Keenum. I also view the move as a slight smokescreen to get teams to believe "well the Broncos aren't taking a QB in the 1st." I happen to believe they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I doubt they think that their future is Flacco. They may wait a year to draft a QB though. The Flacco trade is hard to understand. At this point he is barely better than Keenum imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, whatdrought said: I caught flak on here last year for insisting that Denver wasn't going QB in the first. I turned out to be right. This year, I predict that they will. John Elway has to double down and get a QB or else he will be gone. This is his last off season to get it right and If Lock is there at 10 he will be going to Denver. Just my thought on the matter. I would have to think after the underwhelming QB skills on display at the Senior Bowl this year, that Elway has to be kicking himself. We can argue all day about the different QBs taken last year, but regardless I believe it was a very, very good year to take a top-end QB. It may even go down as a great year if some of these guys develop like I think they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, Turk71 said: I doubt they think that their future is Flacco. They may wait a year to draft a QB though. The Flacco trade is hard to understand. At this point he is barely better than Keenum imo. Is he though? Vegas disagrees. Denver's Super Bowl odds dropped from 100/1 to 125/1 after acquiring Flacco. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/joe-flacco-trade-actually-made-the-broncos-super-bowl-odds-worse-for-2019/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Is he though? Vegas disagrees. Denver's Super Bowl odds dropped from 100/1 to 125/1 after acquiring Flacco. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/joe-flacco-trade-actually-made-the-broncos-super-bowl-odds-worse-for-2019/ I don't really think he is either. I should have qualified that with 'if at all'. Seems like a pointless waste of a 4th rnd pick to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I was really clinging to that "trade back a spot with Denver for a pick....then trade again down into the teams for another 2nd rounder" dream Teams may still want to get ahead of Denver though, so a trade back for another 2nd is still a possibility. Washington seems like a perfect match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Flacco is a placeholder until they find their new guy and get him up to speed. I was surprised he just turned 34, but I think he’s almost done. He hasn’t been good since he got the big payday after the Super Bowl, as I recall it. (But I do love a guy who bets on himself and wins!) I won’t rule out anything, including an early QB by the Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 21 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: As the first domino in the QB market fell yesterday what is the implications to the Bills and potential trade down options. QB Possible destinations: NY Giants - have Eli, Haskins is best QB in this draft but Murray is very tempting. Jacksonville - Cap issues need to be cleared to allow Nick Foles to be brought on Dolphins - Tannehill to be cut, Bridgewater probable pick-up in "two win for Tua" season Bengals - Tannehill reunited with new HC, Dalton trade bait Redskins - Smith out for the year maybe Dalton Tyrod to Ravens to be Back-up for Jackson Looks as though there is no trade down for teams looking for a QB Haskins and Murray go in 1st round, Lock slips to late 1st, maybe Chargers or Patriots Bills stay at 9 and select BPA at position of highest need after free agency Foles to the jag's makes a lot of sense... but hes under contract and will have to negotiate some kind of sign-trade type of deal. Tannehill really is a wildcard - but i don't see Cincy. Just isn't an upgrade. Backup to Darnold under Gase? Seems to make some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I think Denver still goes QB. My bet would be on Lock. They’ll let him sit most the year until Flacco falls apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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