row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Row...row...I remember the play, Not live, but I have seen that video countless times. Damn. When I was watching SB XIV I for some reason thought they were going for their 4th straight...at the time. Still, 4 in 6 years...amazing. A couple of teams have done 3 in 4 years (Cowboys, Patriots), which is tremendous, but I still rank the Steelers a little higher. it still kind of is a gold standard.... I can name all the starters offhand for all four seasons, I can't name many players on champions the last 20 seasons though... the worst legend is they always name Mike Webster at a starter on the first two, when it was Ray Mansfield. Ray would be most remembered for anecdotes in the Two Bricks Short of a Load sports diary for one of the early Dynasty seasons. Edited January 21, 2019 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Spot on as always and well said. One thing though, No Hud my friend, Miami did do it before us. I believe SBs V, VI and VII. Thanks for the quality control edits Donuts--nothing gets by you and I am appreciative! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 It’s not something I care about. It’s a great accomplishment, but I much prefer thinking our best days are ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 they won despite Tom Brady, he was slow and threw 3 interceptions last night. L.A. is licking their chops I am sure. I hope the rams PUMMEL them into the ground and Brady is carted off of the field never to play again. Sorry not sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, Plano said: they won despite Tom Brady, he was slow and threw 3 interceptions last night. L.A. is licking their chops I am sure. I hope the rams PUMMEL them into the ground and Brady is carted off of the field never to play again. Sorry not sorry Tom was the by far the most inferior QB according to passing ratings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Success said: It’s not something I care about. It’s a great accomplishment, but I much prefer thinking our best days are ahead. If nothing else, we seem to be at the edge of an upward trajectory with our long term starter at the most important position set, whereas this will remain a question mark for the Pats for the foreseeable future post-Brady at the back end of his career, along with how long Hoodie still wants to coach or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The saying is never again will a team lose 4 straight. Legacy safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: No they wont unseat us. They have lose 4 straight to do that. They proved to be the greatest team in NFL history a long time ago. Even though I am among the minority that doesnt view Brady as the GOAT, he is the leader of the GOAT dynasty team. SuperBowls are a team accomplishment. I do not believe they will go to a fourth. They should not be in this one as they were helped by BS calls. Next season their core will be another year older and Gronk will likely retire and even though he hasnt been as dominant in the pass game he has still been a beast in the run. They are slowly spiraling down No they are not. They're going to play for another championship in 2 weeks. No reason to think that , if Brady returns, they will be a favorite to get the the bowl again. Edited January 22, 2019 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, klos63 said: No they are not. They're going to play for another championship in 2 weeks. No reason to think that , if Brady returns, they won't be a favorite to get the the bowl again. they'll coast in the regular season, 8 wins should secure the division and we'll have to hear from Labor Day to the playoffs how they are washed up and there is irreparable rifts between Belichick and Brady.... (vomit) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: they'll coast in the regular season, 8 wins should secure the division and we'll have to hear from Labor Day to the playoffs how they are washed up and there is irreparable rifts between Belichick and Brady.... (vomit) Heaven help us if 8 wins to secure the division is the reality we are facing next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) I think that particular legacy, as it is more commonly remembered, is safe next year and for all time.... Edited January 21, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, row_33 said: The Yankees have had a pretty good run many times over the last 100 years. Im also a Yankees fan and If you want to go entire history of the team you have a point but they have never gone on a run Like Ne for the last 17 years. Its like they took root over the rotting carcas of the Bills and brought with it our misery. The irony of it is we had a much shorter less accomplished version of Brady that got screwed by an under appreciative owner. Thus began the Flutie curse. Flutie just seemed to will his teams to big wins and then he got benched for a joke of a QB. Edited January 21, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: Im also a Yankees fan and If you want to go entire history of the team you have a point but they have never gone on a run Like Ne for the last 17 years. Its like they took root over the rotting carcas of the Bills and brought with it our misery. The irony of it is we had a much shorter less accomplished version of Brady that got screwed by an under appreciative owner. Thus began the Flutie curse. Flutie just seemed to will his teams to big wins and then he got benched for a joke of a QB. the Yankees from 1921 to 1964 whips anything you want to dream up for the Patriots. how about 1947 to 1964 to make it closer? 15 pennants in 18 years They did exist before you became a fan. Edited January 21, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 There is no comparison between us and NE. They are in the middle of one of the greatest runs in pro sports history. We are the “lovable” losers. the funniest thing is if the Bills ever make the SB, everyone except the rival fanbase would root for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: There is no comparison between us and NE. They are in the middle of one of the greatest runs in pro sports history. We are the “lovable” losers. the funniest thing is if the Bills ever make the SB, everyone except the rival fanbase would root for them. Wouldn't be so sure of that. No reason to like the Bills unless a fan already. Maybe Allen becomes a superstar and kids around the country like him , but by the time we get to a super bowl, a good majority of the fans watching will have no memory of the 90's teams or weren't even born when they played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Bills can meet the Vikings in a SB sympathy showdown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 And they’ll make a 38 point comeback in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, klos63 said: Wouldn't be so sure of that. No reason to like the Bills unless a fan already. Maybe Allen becomes a superstar and kids around the country like him , but by the time we get to a super bowl, a good majority of the fans watching will have no memory of the 90's teams or weren't even born when they played. It wouldn't be because they "like" the Bills. It would be more like "wow, the BILLS are in the Superbowl?" "What an underdog story!" Many younger/casual fans indeed have but a vague recollection of the Bills SB era and consider us irrelevant. I think those casual fans would like to see a team come out of nowhere to win it. Edited January 22, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 hours ago, row_33 said: the Yankees from 1921 to 1964 whips anything you want to dream up for the Patriots. how about 1947 to 1964 to make it closer? 15 pennants in 18 years They did exist before you became a fan. And 10 World Series Wins during that time span to boot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, row_33 said: the Yankees from 1921 to 1964 whips anything you want to dream up for the Patriots. how about 1947 to 1964 to make it closer? 15 pennants in 18 years They did exist before you became a fan. 10 World series titles is impressive and I am aware of it. But, The Patriots have done what theyve done up against free agency and a salary cap in a league that it is not easy to repeat in. Just think about something, people are not really impressed with 4 straight WS championships but 4 straight SB losses is hailed as a dynasty legitimately. That is what makes it amazing. Again Im a Yankees fan and am well aware of what they have done. I hate the Patriots and Im saying this. That should tell you something. Edited January 22, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The fact that as dominant as NE has been they haven't gone to 4 in a row shows just how hard and amazing that was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 hours ago, pop gun said: Yeah, I thought about this also. What is left for Brady and Belicheat to accomplish? 4 straight Super Bowls, but that only ties the Bills, NE would need to get to 5 straight to best the Bills and I sure as heck can't see that. Can't see what? Him caring about that? He has won more than we lost. I like that those losers can hang their hat on that nobody will make it to the superbowl to lose it as much as them, but it's not an accomplishment I admire. They were losers. It's a stupid thing to be proud of. 33 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: 10 World series titles is impressive and I am aware of it. But, The Patriots have done what theyve done up against free agency and a salary cap in a league that it is not easy to repeat in. Just think about something, people are not really impressed with 4 straight WS championships but 4 straight SB losses is hailed as a dynasty legitimately. That is what makes it amazing. Again Im a Yankees fan and am well aware of what they have done. I hate the Patriots and Im saying this. That should tell you something. No one who can define the word dynasty considers the Bills of the 90's as one. They aren't even close to a dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Can't see what? Him caring about that? He has won more than we lost. I like that those losers can hang their hat on that nobody will make it to the superbowl to lose it as much as them, but it's not an accomplishment I admire. They were losers. It's a stupid thing to be proud of. No one who can define the word dynasty considers the Bills of the 90's as one. They aren't even close to a dynasty. Plenty of people do and making it to four straight is an accomplishment to be proud of as no other team has done it. Edited January 22, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 18 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: No they wont unseat us. They have lose 4 straight to do that. They proved to be the greatest team in NFL history a long time ago. Even though I am among the minority that doesnt view Brady as the GOAT, he is the leader of the GOAT dynasty team. SuperBowls are a team accomplishment. I do not believe they will go to a fourth. They should not be in this one as they were helped by BS calls. Next season their core will be another year older and Gronk will likely retire and even though he hasnt been as dominant in the pass game he has still been a beast in the run. They are slowly spiraling down And what would prevent them from drafting, trading for or signing another good TE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: And what would prevent them from drafting, trading for or signing another good TE? Gronk isnt just a good TE. I dont think you realise how dominant he is even all banged up he mauls people as a blocker and has a license to push off. Do you think Brady is going to improve in the offseason. He probably will squeeze out another year or two. Edited January 22, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: 10 World series titles is impressive and I am aware of it. But, The Patriots have done what theyve done up against free agency and a salary cap in a league that it is not easy to repeat in. Just think about something, people are not really impressed with 4 straight WS championships but 4 straight SB losses is hailed as a dynasty legitimately. That is what makes it amazing. Again Im a Yankees fan and am well aware of what they have done. I hate the Patriots and Im saying this. That should tell you something. i will add the 20s and 30s to the Yankees accomplishments and the 70s and the 90s and early 00s that's a million times more impressive than the Pats for their run KEEP DIGGING THAT HOLE, SPORTO!!! and the Yankees are still decent contenders in this decade and going forward.... yeah, the Pats run is good but not what the Yankees have done the Montreal Canadiens and Boston Celtics are better than the Pats as well this is too easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 “THE BILLS MADE FOUR SUPERBOWLS IN A ROW 30 YEARS AGO!” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: i will add the 20s and 30s to the Yankees accomplishments and the 70s and the 90s and early 00s that's a million times more impressive than the Pats for their run KEEP DIGGING THAT HOLE, SPORTO!!! and the Yankees are still decent contenders in this decade and going forward.... yeah, the Pats run is good but not what the Yankees have done the Montreal Canadiens and Boston Celtics are better than the Pats as well this is too easy... Im not digging a hole. Just because you feel a certain way doesnt make it gospel. I stated why I feel that way, its a valid point. If you can offer something of substance to dispute my point then Im all ears otherwise you just spund like a child and a millenial. "Im right cuz youre wrong?" Your opinion of yourself is much higher than your opinion of NY or the Bills. ?The kids table is that way.➡️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 2:13 AM, Peace Frog said: Let's win the division next year and put an end to their streak. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) On 1/21/2019 at 11:32 AM, Bills!Win! said: Does anyone else think that Brady is continuing to play into his 40's just to see if he can get to 5 straight and beat the bills record? What else does he have to play for? for some reason, I can only picture Brady thinking about the Bills twice a year, right before they play each other....beyond that I cannot fathom any reason he'd think about any Bills record. Like it or not, he may very well be the greatest player ever - I didn't realize, until they said during the game this weekend, that in 17 seasons he's been to 13 AFC championship games. That really is incredible. Edited January 22, 2019 by chaccof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 hours ago, chaccof said: for some reason, I can only picture Brady thinking about the Bills twice a year, right before they play each other....beyond that I cannot fathom any reason he'd think about any Bills record. Like it or not, he may very well be the greatest player over - I didn't realize, until they said during the game this weekend, that in 17 seasons he's been to 13 AFC championship games. That really is incredible. The Bills as a franchise are in his rearview mirror. Those losers in the 90s have nothing on what he has done in his career. He has won more than they lost. Any of those 90s Bills players would trade their career for Brady's, and if they said they wouldn't. They're lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I also think the legacy of winning 4 straight AFC championships is safe. The Pat's remind me of the 1993 Bills in that they're clearly sliding but have one last gasp left in their dynasty. I think the fall off in the Pat's and particularly in Brady's play next year will be dramatic. Best I see for the Patriots is 10 - 6 and a wild card next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 8 hours ago, row_33 said: i will add the 20s and 30s to the Yankees accomplishments and the 70s and the 90s and early 00s that's a million times more impressive than the Pats for their run KEEP DIGGING THAT HOLE, SPORTO!!! and the Yankees are still decent contenders in this decade and going forward.... yeah, the Pats run is good but not what the Yankees have done the Montreal Canadiens and Boston Celtics are better than the Pats as well this is too easy... Not for nothing but there were only 12 teams when the celts were winning in the 60s. Hockey only had 6. Add that Montreal had a huge adv. since they owned all the development leaques to get players from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchCT Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 If someone is smart, they'd go after the NFL's first year 1920 Buffalo All Americans pendant I posted on here and parade it. Buffalo easily has a claim to the 1920 and 1921 championships. https://auction.lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=90440 10 days left. Ockie Anderson was a legend in his time. Those two seasons dwarf what Levy and Kelly have done in Buffalo, in my opinion, from a 100 year perspective. Buffalo has the right to be an original NFL town like Green Bay and Chicago. Actually, moreso than Green Bay, since the Packers joined in 1921. The town of Pottsville, PA, still wants recognition for their title in 1925. Here's a ring from that team for their title. Not made of gold or silver because the retired players couldn't afford it, I was told. One player did have his made of silver. https://auction.lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=90443 The NFL will be in it's 100th season next season. Might as well claim the first 2 titles in 1920 and 1921, given the circumstances. Harvard created football in 1874 and 1875. Princeton vs Rutgers in 1869 being the first game is a myth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1874_Harvard_vs._McGill_football_game 1908 Harvard unclaimed championship pendant: https://auction.lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=90441 Harvard doesn't care to claim the 1908 title, though they are worthy. Like I said, Buffalo fans should claim the 1920 and 1921 titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchCT Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just had to bump this post back up. Less than 2 days left in the auction. Bring the 1920 Buffalo championship fob back to Buffalo! (It's in New Jersey, at the moment.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 1:05 AM, matter2003 said: Its always been said that never again will a team go to 4 straight Super Bowls... Well...New England is currently on 3 straight...if they do it again next year they would make it 4... Bills legacy is in danger of being marginalized... If the Pats lose this Super Bowl, they'll have lost as many as we did...with the added bonus of having won 5 on top of it, and all with the same QB. I think that legacy already put a pretty big damper on ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) I kind of feel like this isn't a legacy that means anything, other than to the Bills and their fans. I mean the Bills weren't the best team in the league during any of those years, so how much pride can one take in a team that was, at best, the 2nd best team in the NFL for each of those years? IMO any team that wins one super bowl has already eclipsed anything those 90's Bills did. Edited January 31, 2019 by Buddy Hix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I kind of feel like this isn't a legacy that means anything, other than to the Bills and their fans. I mean the Bills weren't the best team in the league during any of those years, so how much pride can one take in a team that was, at best, the 2nd best team in the NFL for each of those years? IMO any team that wins one super bowl has already eclipsed anything those 90's Bills did. Yep, our only legacy that matters will be that as the 20XX Super Bowl Champions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, arcane said: Yep, our only legacy that matters will be that as the 20XX Super Bowl Champions I agree. And I also think winning a Super Bowl would help a lot of people see those 90’s teams in a better light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) never understood why people said 4 in a row was "never going to happen again" when the Bills literally followed Elway's Broncos that made 3 out of 4 and a decade ago the Vikings went 3 out of 4. Dolphins made 3 in a row, Cowboys made 3 of 4 in the 70s, then 3 of 4 in the 90s, now the Patriots. 7 times in NFL history a team has made 3 or 4 of 4 and chances are that team's good enough to have a good shot at 4 when that happens. Edited January 31, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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