PlayoffsPlease Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) By 2021, I fully expect Josh Allen to have locked down the spot as the premier AFC QB, surpassing a by then aging Andrew Luck and pretenders to the throne like Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. By then ESPN's new junior host Josh Rosen will be referring to rookie Trevor Lawrence (drafted by the Jets to replace the failed turnover machine known as Sam Darnold) as a "poor man's Josh Allen" . The Jets new 2021 head coach will quoted as saying "If Trevor can be 75% the QB Josh Allen is, we consider the pick a huge home run" Edited January 8, 2019 by PlayoffsPlease 7 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Josh is cornfed. Sunshine looks like he could fit in his gfs pants. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: By 2021, I fully expect Josh Allen to have locked down the spot as the premier AFC QB, surpassing a by then aging Andrew Luck and pretenders to the throne like Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. By then ESPN's new junior host Josh Rosen will be referring to rookie Trevor Lawrence (drafted by the Jets to replace the failed turnover machine known as Sam Darnold) as a "poor man's Josh Allen" . The Jets new 2021 head coach will quoted as saying "If Trevor can be 75% the QB Josh Allen is, we consider the pick a huge home run" PM me your peyote guys contact info if possible. I need to upgrade! Seriously though, I think Lawrence is going to be a really good one. You could be right on Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Not even close to the same kind of QB. Allen is literally Superman. 6’5 240 and can pretty much do anything on the field physically Sunshine, is way more a traditional QB... Cerebral, picture perfect lower body mechanics, effortless release, precision, throws in the face of pressure Both can be outstanding but Trevor is wayyyy ahead of Allen at 19 6 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: By 2021, I fully expect Josh Allen to have locked down the spot as the premier AFC QB, surpassing a by then aging Andrew Luck and pretenders to the throne like Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. By then ESPN's new junior host Josh Rosen will be referring to rookie Trevor Lawrence (drafted by the Jets to replace the failed turnover machine known as Sam Darnold) as a "poor man's Josh Allen" . The Jets new 2021 head coach will quoted as saying "If Trevor can be 75% the QB Josh Allen is, we consider the pick a huge home run" Please let it be Wrecks again, please !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Josh Allen's ceiling is not known,. but it could be extremely high. Think Aaron Rodgers. On the other hand, while it's early, (by a couple years) it would not be shocking to see Trevor Lawrence become the top overall pick in the 2021 draft. It that's the case, he's not going to be known as "poor man's" anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Josh Allen's ceiling is not known,. but it could be extremely high. Think Aaron Rodgers. On the other hand, while it's early, (by a couple years) it would not be shocking to see Trevor Lawrence become the top overall pick in the 2021 draft. It that's the case, he's not going to be known as "poor man's" anything. that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Was wondering how long it would take before the Lawrence vs Allen comparison/debate. You guys never disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 i doubt he waits till '21 to come out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Foxx said: i doubt he waits till '21 to come out. ...not that there's anything wrong with that. What do you think gives it away? It's the hair, isn't it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: By 2021, I fully expect Josh Allen to have locked down the spot as the premier AFC QB, surpassing a by then aging Andrew Luck and pretenders to the throne like Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. By then ESPN's new junior host Josh Rosen will be referring to rookie Trevor Lawrence (drafted by the Jets to replace the failed turnover machine known as Sam Darnold) as a "poor man's Josh Allen" . The Jets new 2021 head coach will quoted as saying "If Trevor can be 75% the QB Josh Allen is, we consider the pick a huge home run" Whatever you're on, Don't Bogart it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whatever you're on, Don't Bogart it You can make book on all of these predictions. I am never wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Doesn't he kind of have the exact opposite backstory to Allen though? Allen went unrecruited and managed to claw his way to Wyoming an at best middle level Mountain West team. Trevor Lawrence was the highest rated QB recruit and ended up at a College Championship competing team. Does he have a similar play style or something? I mean I'm definitely hoping for Allen to become a great QB which I suppose would mean people would make bad comparisons to him for upcoming QBs in the draft. Edited January 8, 2019 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2021 is a long way away. Mahomes is playing great while surrounded by a great offensive cast. How will he do as that cast ages, leaves as FAs, gets injured, gets traded for defensive help...? I don't know. I think he'll always be at least very good, and will be outstanding when he has help. Mayfield is also playing great but with less help than Mahomes has. He might become the best of the bunch. Darnold looks like he'll develop into an excellent QB. Allen. Who knows what he'll do with a better O line and receivers? The Bills can't win relying on him as their best QB and RB, and no RB will be effective behind our O line. And Allen does need to get better, too. Can't miss the easy throws, Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 If you compare their career trajectories, Josh Allen started so far behind Trevor Lawrence it's not even funny. Lawrence has been bred to be the next can't miss NFL QB prospect, while Allen has had to fight for everything and is still learning. Last season was probably the best year of coaching he ever received and it's not close. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Kid reminds me of Spicolli on FastTimes at Ridgemont High. “Who ordered a pizza?...Right here dude!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Utah John said: 2021 is a long way away. Mahomes is playing great while surrounded by a great offensive cast. How will he do as that cast ages, leaves as FAs, gets injured, gets traded for defensive help...? I don't know. I think he'll always be at least very good, and will be outstanding when he has help. Mayfield is also playing great but with less help than Mahomes has. He might become the best of the bunch. Darnold looks like he'll develop into an excellent QB. Allen. Who knows what he'll do with a better O line and receivers? The Bills can't win relying on him as their best QB and RB, and no RB will be effective behind our O line. And Allen does need to get better, too. Can't miss the easy throws, Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Lawrence is a generational talent. While I warmed up to Allen, he has never had a game that good against a Mountain West opponents on a Saturday afternoon, let alone Bama in a national title game. Allen is a grinder and will do whatever it takes to win. Lawrence is a natural QB that makes the game look easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Better eat a sandwich....or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Far more likely that people here will be screaming for the Bills to tank so they can draft him. 8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Kid reminds me of Spicolli on FastTimes at Ridgemont High. “Who ordered a pizza?...Right here dude!” Learning about Cuba and having some food! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Doesn't he kind of have the exact opposite backstory to Allen though? Allen went unrecruited and managed to claw his way to Wyoming an at best middle level Mountain West team. Trevor Lawrence was the highest rated QB recruit and ended up at a College Championship competing team. Does he have a similar play style or something? I mean I'm definitely hoping for Allen to become a great QB which I suppose would mean people would make bad comparisons to him for upcoming QBs in the draft. The similarities are height, toughness and running ability. I don't care about the back stories. 8 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Lawrence is a generational talent. While I warmed up to Allen, he has never had a game that good against a Mountain West opponents on a Saturday afternoon, let alone Bama in a national title game. Allen is a grinder and will do whatever it takes to win. Lawrence is a natural QB that makes the game look easy Its not 2021 yet. You need to be able to project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: The similarities are height, toughness and running ability. I don't care about the back stories. Its not 2021 yet. You need to be able to project. I really hope Allen is known for more than Being Tall, Tough, and Fast by 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Learning about Cuba and having some food! “I don’t know.”...let me write that on the board for all my classes to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I really hope Allen is known for more than Being Tall, Tough, and Fast by 2021. If you read my original you will see that I explicitly projected him to be the premier AFC QB. And Trevor Lawrence won't be. But Trevor will be tall, tough and a good runner. Hence trevor will only be the poor man's Josh Allen. Its not too complicated. Try to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Not even close to the same kind of QB. Allen is literally Superman. 6’5 240 and can pretty much do anything on the field physically Sunshine, is way more a traditional QB... Cerebral, picture perfect lower body mechanics, effortless release, precision, throws in the face of pressure Both can be outstanding but Trevor is wayyyy ahead of Allen at 19 Good assessment. I think Josh has more mobility and arm strength but Trevor's pocket poise is off the charts for a freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Good assessment. I think Josh has more mobility and arm strength but Trevor's pocket poise is off the charts for a freshman. Josh definitely has more mobility, athleticism and arm strength but trevors precision and poise in the pocket like you said is on another level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Trevor Lawrence looked impressive last night. But he needs to get bigger and stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, wppete said: Trevor Lawrence looked impressive last night. But he needs to get bigger and stronger. He is a 19 year old true Freshmen , that will come with time he has a lean body and good muscle definition, just not bulk yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Buffalo716 said: He is a 19 year old true Freshmen , that will come with time he has a lean body and good muscle definition, just not bulk yet Yea I agree would like to see him around 225-230lbs. Very young and very impressive player. Excited to see him in the next couple of years. Please stay away from the AFC East ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, wppete said: Yea I agree would like to see him around 225-230lbs. Very young and very impressive player. Excited to see him in the next couple of years. Please stay away from the AFC East ? #1 for me is keep him the heck out of the AFC east! and he definitely can pack on some weight , he’s a tall kid. Should only get his arm stronger and body more durable 230 is perfect when he comes out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Sad thing is by the time he's available the Patriots might finally be having some bad seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 We haven’t had a good Allen ball washing thread in a while. I have high hopes for this one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Josh definitely has more mobility, athleticism and arm strength but trevors precision and poise in the pocket like you said is on another level While Lawrence threw some great balls; he had his fair share of whiffs last night too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: While Lawrence threw some great balls; he had his fair share of whiffs last night too. He is a 19 year old true Freshmen There has NEVER been a 19 year old QB look as good as him throughout a season in the modern era of football . Let alone at a P5 school 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He is a 19 year old true Freshmen There has NEVER been a 19 year old QB look as good as him throughout a season in the modern era of football . Let alone at a P5 school Good for him. He won't be available for the Bills in 2020 or 2021 because the Bills will be winning a ton of games! Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 52 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: The similarities are height, toughness and running ability. I don't care about the back stories. Its not 2021 yet. You need to be able to project. And I project, teams will be tanking for Lawerence and/or giving up the house for the chance to draft him, while Allen will have won some games with his ability and established himself as a starting NFL QB, but he'll also have lost games due to some poor throws and there will be questions if he can ever win a big game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Good for him. He won't be available for the Bills in 2020 or 2021 because the Bills will be winning a ton of games! Sorry. And I hope Allen is our MVP as well! He can be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Predicting the NFL 3 years out always goes so well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, uticaclub said: And I project, teams will be tanking for Lawerence and/or giving up the house for the chance to draft him, while Allen will have won some games with his ability and established himself as a starting NFL QB, but he'll also have lost games due to some poor throws and there will be questions if he can ever win a big game Sounds a lot like Phillip Rivers. You wouldn't take a career like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Sounds a lot like Phillip Rivers. You wouldn't take a career like that. I would definitely take a career like that. I'm just saying Lawerence will be viewed as Luck or Manning where everyone will think he's the future of NFL before he takes a snap. While Josh will be considered a solid NFL QB. The whole notion of a "Poor Mans Josh Allen" is laughable, Lawerence already accomplished more in college then Allen did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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