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First half thread: Wk 17 Dolphins at Bills (CBS)


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2 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

 

You never throw short in that situation. That was setting up your rookie to fail.

 

Yep... especially with the safety playing up that far up in the middle of the field - something they have seen with that Bills alignment and route that made them feel they could jump it. I also don't like those out routes if there is cover 2 zone - just an automatic jump the route and a short trip to TD.

 

 

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1 minute ago, jlgarsh said:

If ever there was a time to throw deep, it was then. I'm mad McD called timeout before the dolphins first TD on 3rd down.  The Bills were immediately in the backfield but for some reason he needed a TO there?

After a momentum changing penalty too. He stops and let’s their O get a breather.

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5 minutes ago, dubs said:

Ugh. Rookie mistakes. NBD 

 

there seems to to be a ton of people on this board under the assumption the Bills are so good that they should be blowing teams out week after week.   Weird. 

 

No I just expect basic common sense. That series was a result of very poor game management, no way around that.

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1 minute ago, Watkins90 said:

How do we know that is conservative playcalling. How do we know that they didn't set up deep shots it just wasn't there. 

 

What is the run/pass ratio on first down today.  That's all you need to look at.

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I dont mind that we tried to throw the ball at the end of the second qtr. Where it all went wrong is the fact the Bills played so conservative in the second qtr. I think it is a domino theory, if the Bills dont play so conservative the entire second qtr, I doubt there is a pick 6, I doubt its 14-14.

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7 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I blame our punter. 

 

You are supposed to be an NFL punter and you manage a 32 yard and 35 yard punt on back to back opportunities. 

 

Pathetic. Get that guy out of here. 

The punter is only here cause Schmidt 'schmidt the bed' and the rookie they took from the Pat's is on IR, he isnt  the future or more then a fill in right now

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1 minute ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Daboll checked for TSW's opinion and realized he was making a HUGE mistake not passing from his own 20 less than a minute to go

 

They are playing with a lead at the end of a half against Ryan Tannehil, who has led 2 TD drives in his last 14 drives.

 

What part of this are you struggling with?

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5 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

People beg McDermott to be aggressive and pass and then when he does and our QB throws a pick, you call him a POS. geez.

 

A 5 yard pass to the middle of the field is not aggressive, it is stupid. Running the ball 3 times in a row would have been gutless but being stupid is worse.

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1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said:

Bad decision by Josh but a very questionable play call at best.  I'd rather they throw it deep and its just a punt.  They haven't even tried throwing down field and with no run game Miami will sit on everything short.  Daboll needs to do better  Play calling entire 2nd quarter was predictable slow paced and terrible

Jones was streaking down the sideline deep. There were other routes he could have looked at. 

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

The decision to throw is not the issue. It's where we threw that makes no sense. The best possible result was a 6 yard gain and the clock keeps running with 40 seconds to go and one timeout. All risk and zero reward. If we threw a pick downfield it wouldn't matter. Just a weird series all around.

Exactly, throw it deep down the field and keep the Dbs honest instead a short pass into double coverage. If the coaches make that idiotic decision in a game that doesn't matter what will they do when they are in a high stress playoff game?

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Just now, BillsFan130 said:

No never. That 2nd quarter was absolutely embarrassing.

 

14-0 in a meaningless game and the guy goes into a shell when he should be developing his young QB and actually TRY to score more points. It’s the 2nd quarter!!

 

Embrassing by him and Daboll

honest;ly the bills do this over and over--and there are many to blame...they get a few easy scores then they spend the last 2/3 of the games meandering around and doing nothing.a bit tyrodlike. I find that more disturbing than Allens lack of consistent accuracy.

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People whine and cry about coaching.

 

Guess what?

 

People have whined and cried about every coach the whole history of the Buffalo Bills existence.

 

You know what we have in common?

 

We are no different than every other fan base.

 

 

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Just now, Tcali said:

honest;ly the bills do this over and over--and there are many to blame...they get a few easy scores then they spend the last 2/3 of the games meandering around and doing nothing.a bit tyrodlike. I find that more disturbing than Allens lack of consistent accuracy.

Yep. They did the same thing a few weeks ago against the Jets.

 

This coaching staff has absolutely no

killer instinct. And the worst part is that it’s a meaningless game..

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1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said:

So last year after making the play-offs you wanted him fired?  Serious?

 

We made the playoffs last year despite McD's bad coaching, not because of him.  Same problems remain, bad game day management, bad clock management, absolutely TERRIBLE replay challenge management.  He's not a good coach, at all.

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2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

No never. That 2nd quarter was absolutely embarrassing.

 

14-0 in a meaningless game and the guy goes into a shell when he should be developing his young QB and actually TRY to score more points. It’s the 2nd quarter!!

 

Embrassing by him and Daboll

 

I would agree that McD goes into a shell too early, shades of Jauron. I would never go into a shell in the 1st half and would not sit on a 14 pt lead until 6-7 min left in the 4th. However... I wonder if he is trying to cover for a bad team by playing conservatively.

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

A 5 yard pass to the middle of the field is not aggressive, it is stupid. Running the ball 3 times in a row would have been gutless but being stupid is worse.

None of us know the route combination and what is Allen's first read/what he is supposed to do with that playcall. It's hard to say that was a stupid call based off results. 

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1 minute ago, njbuff said:

The Dolphins were heading for the bus.

 

I blame this conservative play calling crap as to why this game is tied.

 

Blame Allen for a bad throw too, but it would have never happened had this coaching staff stayed aggressive.

Yep. I made a thread last week about the conservative play calling. I hate it 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

They are playing with a lead at the end of a half against Ryan Tannehil, who has led 2 TD drives in his last 14 drives.

 

What part of this are you struggling with?

It's sarcasm. I question the feasibility of getting 60 yards in less than a minute as well. Both this game and last I'm fine with going into the tunnels as is.

 

TSW has been foaming at the mouth since then for a pass. It's hilarious

 

Daboll can't win

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Just now, HalftimeAdjustment said:

 

I would agree that McD goes into a shell too early, shades of Jauron. I would never go into a shell in the 1st half and would not sit on a 14 pt lead until 6-7 min left in the 4th. However... I wonder if he is trying to cover for a bad team by playing conservatively.

But here is the problem. They start out aggressive and score 2 TDS. So why would you change what you’re doing?

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Just now, HalftimeAdjustment said:

 

Did Schmidt really do that poorly? I mean it wasn't good, but...

 

He had lost it too. Coaches were showing him the door in preseason. Not saying this Darr is any better, but they were clearly over Colton

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1 minute ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

 

I would agree that McD goes into a shell too early, shades of Jauron. I would never go into a shell in the 1st half and would not sit on a 14 pt lead until 6-7 min left in the 4th. However... I wonder if he is trying to cover for a bad team by playing conservatively.

His job right now is to evaluate what he has and give Allen meaningful reps.  He's playing like this game means something in terms of win/loss which it does not.  Sitting on a 14 pt lead at the end of the first quarter just illustrates it even more how clueless the staff is on what is important

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9 minutes ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

 

And Crossman. Who do you think made the call to cut Schmidt?

 

Cutting Schmidt was the right call, his last game every punt was 3 seconds hang time or less.  They should have signed Shane Lechler, but probably didn't want to pay him the vet minimum for a punter with 20 years of service.

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