Make or Break Game for Shady

[IgotBILLStopay]

The Dolphins run defense has been abysmal this season.

 

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&season=2018&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

 

They are 4th in YPG and have given up 13 runs of 20+ yards. I think this game will tell us if Shady has anything left in his tank at all. If he lays an egg, it will be time to say g'bye. If he does rush well, at least we will have hope.

 

It appears the run defense woes are primarily because they are so thin at the interior DL position (and they released JP 97, ha ha!). That means Shady should not dance around to the outside, but run north south between the D Linemen. Can he still do it?

 

 

[PlayoffsPlease]

Just now, IgotBILLStopay said:

The Dolphins run defense has been abysmal this season.

 

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&season=2018&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

 

They are 4th in YPG and have given up 13 runs of 20+ yards. I think this game will tell us if Shady has anything left in his tank at all. If he lays an egg, it will be time to say g'bye. If he does rush well, at least we will have hope.

 

It appears the run defense woes are primarily because they are so thin at the interior DL position (and they released JP 97, ha ha!). That means Shady should not dance around to the outside, but run north south between the D Linemen. Can he still do it?

 

 

Its time to embrace the Hunt 

[26CornerBlitz]

Make or break? No.  He'll be back in 2019. 

[Alphadawg7]

My fantasy team is make or break on Shady now.  I have to start Shady for first time this year in Fantasy thanks to the Hunt debacle. Lol, go shady! 

Edited December 1, 2018 by Alphadawg7

[IgotBILLStopay]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Make or break? No.  He'll be back in 2019. 

He will be back, but can he be THE back?

Edited December 1, 2018 by IgotBILLStopay

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, IgotBILLStopay said:

He will be back, but can he be THE back?

 

Of course he can.  This one game is just another game.

[NewEra]

Yeah.....a game vs the dolphins is make or break for a HoF RBs career......said no one ever......but you. 

[IgotBILLStopay]

Just now, NewEra said:

Yeah.....a game vs the dolphins is make or break for a HoF RBs career......said no one ever......but you. 

I am sorry - I never said make or break for his career. IMO, it is make or break for whether he has anything left in his tank given the underwhelming season so far. 

[kota]

Shady has everything left in the tank.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is well...

[IgotBILLStopay]

1 minute ago, kota said:

Shady has everything left in the tank.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is well...

That is our hope!! Make it happen Shady.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

11 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Its time to embrace the Hunt 

 

Why am I not surprised by this opinion?

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

I am sorry - I never said make or break for his career. IMO, it is make or break for whether he has anything left in his tank given the underwhelming season so far. 

Yeah, meaning his HoF is over if he doesn’t play well.  That’s exactly what you said in different word.  

 

If he stinks vs the fins, then should part ways.  Why should we part ways?  Because he’s not good anymore......because he had a bad game vs the dolphins.  Ultimatums are bad

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

....should be an interesting call.....he's due $6.425 mil and his cap hit is $9.050 mil.....June 1 designated cut is $4.5 mil for 2019 and 2020.........don't see much of a trade value at that number......AP was released and signed for $1.015 mil vet minimum........although the OL is showing signs of improvement, even if they took a quantum leap in 2019, doubt that Shady could be the lead back......at some point, averaging 241 carries per year over his career start to take a toll, like it or not..........

[PlayoffsPlease]

11 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Why am I not surprised by this opinion?

I know this answer.  Because you are triggered by everything. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

I know this answer.  Because you are triggered by everything. 

 

That’s funny. I’m generally nontriggered by just about anything. But there’s two kinds of people I won’t ever tolerate: woman beaters and child molesters. 

 

 

[snamsnoops]

in just another game and Shady won't just suddenly run North n South. He is going to do his thing, like it or not..... I think this year is a wash, and Shady will be back next season and ready to play. He keeps in shape year round and doesn't take big hits during the season..

[purple haze]

40 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

I am sorry - I never said make or break for his career. IMO, it is make or break for whether he has anything left in his tank given the underwhelming season so far. 

I keep hearing this type of sentiment from some sports writers. The funny thing is it usually follows criticisms about the offensive line deficiencies and how the Bills need to start finding replacements for the unit.  It's almost as if that criticism has nothing to do with Shady's struggles at all.?

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Shady is my favorite player on the Bills and he’s the biggest reason the drought is over...he’s got to stop dancing and just get to the hole.

 

He knows 100x more about playing RB then I will ever know but he’s trying to make every run a highlight reel run. There comes a time in every RBs career, where they lose a step. Maybe it’s that time, maybe it’s the scheme, maybe it’s the Oline, maybe it’s a little of everything. Either way, get to the hole first, then make a move. That’s the way Ivory does it. That’s the way it works in this offense. Just because it’s different, doesn’t mean it’s bad. Shady can still be excellent. He just has to do it in a different way.

[Mister Defense]

Whatever happens tomorrow, and for the rest of the year, a priority for the Bills next year will be a fast, powerhouse running back for this offense (and several more offensive weapons and lineman, of course).

 

Shady is over 30 and, while he may have a good year left, the Bills cannot count on that.  The new backs will learn from one of the best and Shady will likely become more productive for the rest of this year, as the offense improves, and next as well, with an improved offense, more weapons, and less reps. 

 

Shady will also likely become even more important as  a receiver this year and next. This will prolong his career as a dynamic threat.

 

But a great running back in the draft (or via free agency) will be essential next year, a priority--if the Bills know what they are doing..

Edited December 1, 2018 by Mister Defense

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

My fantasy team is make or break on Shady now.  I have to start Shady for first time this year in Fantasy thanks to the Hunt debacle. Lol, go shady! 

 

My sincere condolences. There’s always next week/year/decade. 

[CommonCents]

I was expecting a fountain of youth joke. ?

[Pirate Angel]

Id like to see him rework his contract to become a 3rd down back/mentor. I realize this is just a pipe dream but he is still very effective as a receiver coming out of the backfield. However we will have cap room so waiting until after free agency and the draft and seeing if you have a suitable replacement might be wise

[T master]

Not sure about make or break but it sure would be nice if he would get back on track & help out the offense in scoring some points weather it be on the ground or in the air ...

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

13 minutes ago, Tazor Face said:

Id like to see him rework his contract to become a 3rd down back/mentor. I realize this is just a pipe dream but he is still very effective as a receiver coming out of the backfield. However we will have cap room so waiting until after free agency and the draft and seeing if you have a suitable replacement might be wise

 

...you may be able to prolong his career a bit if i=his role was more like Thurmal/Kenneth Davis.........let Ivory & Murphy do the heavy lifting....think Kevin Faulk mode and how the Pats used to kill us with his versatility out of the backfield.................

[Needle]

I think he has a big game. It has to be killing him, having such a dismal year by his standards. I give him alot of credit for remaining a strong team guy. He has remained loyal to the coaching staff and teammates especially. I hope Bills fans realize that in today's NFL that quality of leadership isn't easy to come by.

 

Hopefully they get him and Allen the help they need for next year.

 

[yungmack]

No it's not.

 

[gobills1212]

Make or break?

Click bait topics here are a thing now???

[Big Gun]

3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

The Dolphins run defense has been abysmal this season.

 

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&season=2018&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

 

They are 4th in YPG and have given up 13 runs of 20+ yards. I think this game will tell us if Shady has anything left in his tank at all. If he lays an egg, it will be time to say g'bye. If he does rush well, at least we will have hope.

 

It appears the run defense woes are primarily because they are so thin at the interior DL position (and they released JP 97, ha ha!). That means Shady should not dance around to the outside, but run north south between the D Linemen. Can he still do it?

 

 

Yup, make or break. If he makes then what? If he breaks then what?

 

Stupid thread, Shady is a fringe HOF and a good or bad Dolphin game isnt going to change anything.

[formerlyofCtown]

2 hours ago, Needle said:

I think he has a big game. It has to be killing him, having such a dismal year by his standards. I give him alot of credit for remaining a strong team guy. He has remained loyal to the coaching staff and teammates especially. I hope Bills fans realize that in today's NFL that quality of leadership isn't easy to come by.

 

Hopefully they get him and Allen the help they need for next year.

 

Glad he hasnt retired at halftime

[Wilton Bills]

It's always Shady in Buffalo! He's back in 2019 to finish. Go Bills!!

[3rdand12]

3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Shady is my favorite player on the Bills and he’s the biggest reason the drought is over...he’s got to stop dancing and just get to the hole.

 

He knows 100x more about playing RB then I will ever know but he’s trying to make every run a highlight reel run. There comes a time in every RBs career, where they lose a step. Maybe it’s that time, maybe it’s the scheme, maybe it’s the Oline, maybe it’s a little of everything. Either way, get to the hole first, then make a move. That’s the way Ivory does it. That’s the way it works in this offense. Just because it’s different, doesn’t mean it’s bad. Shady can still be excellent. He just has to do it in a different way.

fine post right here. perhaps he is a shade too quick to the line of scrimmage . maybe out of shotgun would help??
One thing about him, i am guessing , is that he has excellent vision. Especially peripherally. Maybe that his issue. he looks for the best lane breaking . Which line man is getting leverage and then what is the coverage behind  that crease.
agree  , he does need to trust the play call.
maybe he is a delicate sort and does not like to take a hard hit after all ?

then get him in space. not like waterbugger CJ Spiller space though !
 

ps i want to see more Ivory to grind the ball and make teams respect the middle too much. then bring Shady in 

1 hour ago, gobills1212 said:

Make or break?

Click bait topics here are a thing now???

apparently as you and I both clicked

[TroutDog]

He will be fine, regardless of how he does this game. He is running behind an inferior line and has a limited passing attack. 

 

With inproved line line and skilled position players next year, he’ll be his old self. 

[Augie]

38 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Glad he hasnt retired at halftime

 

We won’t know until after halftime. ?

 

 

I don’t know how a guy this many years into the league could have a make or break game. What does that even mean???

[JPP]

Question is....is the o-line coach regressing him??  Thats been somewhat the talk about Catillo + the talent of our line (which seems to be getting abit better as of late)......Shady definatly needs a breakout game but i think it would help to incorporate abit more of Ivory in the plays.......Run the ball & kill the clock this weekend!

[Dadonkadonk]

Why isn't it make or break for this offensive line? Where is the criticism for Dawkins? He has not elevated his play in year two.  The rest are all playing terribly in either run or pass or both. I hope Teller gets better but he is awful in pass protection almost to the point he makes Miller look ok. Bodine is just awful at everything. Mills sadly is adequate at RT at times but then goes multiple drives with no push in the run game.

[Magox]

Love Shady but his play has dropped off.  Next year we draft a RB in the first five rounds with the hope that they have drafted the heir apparent ro Shady.

 

 

[brianthomas]

With Shady its hard to point the finger at 1 thing as the reason for his disappointing season so far. Because imo its not Shady thats changed, its the cluster***** problems on offense that we have. The line, the qb debacle thruout the year all play a big part in it. Its almost like the Tyrod effect, where defenses dont respect our passing attack & cheat towards the line of scrimmage. There's not a lot of daylight out there & as the game goes on Shady probably tries to make things happen where he shouldnt bcuz he's so desperate to do something. Thats not saying i think he's played to the best of his ability bcuz he surely hasnt. But i do believe the problem is more on those other circumstances than it is on him.

 

Plus it also doesnt help your running game when your teams been blown out 5 or 6 or 7 games out of 12.

Like others have said, this game isnt a make or break game for Shady. I wouldnt even put it at this season for him. But it should be make or break for other players. We're all counting on some substantial off season upgrades. Hopefully it happens, for all of our sakes.