JerseyBills Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Say whatever you want about the kid, but he's a gamer and you can tell he wants to win, BAD. He brings this amazing energy to the offense as a whole and showed huge improvements in his game today. The stats don't tell the whole story in the pass game, he looked much more poised , aware and accurate against the 4th ranked pass D and ran all over them as well. The best stat in his young career is he is 3-2 in games he started and finished. All with a below average ol and arguably the worse WR Corp.. He's likely 4-2 imo, if he doesn't get hurt vs Hou. But that injury seems to be a blessing in disguise,as he needed that time to be coached up n work on his difficiencies. We're going to be legit contenders next year and beyond, love the way this team has been built , they'll have a TON of flexibility to build around him , and improve the ol in the upcoming off season. The future looks brighter than it has looked in a LONGGGGGG time!!! 9 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He completed 8 passes and his accuracy is awful. 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: He completed 8 passes and his accuracy is awful. What passes showed u his accuracy is awful? Honest question. Obviously Allen didnt throw for 300 yards with 4 TDs but I thought he was actually pretty accurate today Edited November 25, 2018 by Skins Malone 14 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Yeah, he made some good throws and that's encouraging, but you guys are overreacting. Josh has a long way to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Skins Malone said: What passes showed u his accuracy is awful? Honest question. Obviously Allen didnt throw for 300 yards with 4 TDs but I thought he was actually pretty accurate today its a stock bummer line. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Skins Malone said: What passes showed u his accuracy is awful? Honest question. Obviously Allen didnt throw for 300 yards with 4 TDs but I thought he was actually pretty accurate today He had a missed screen that he threw into the dirt. That was really it. Everything else was a miscommunication (you could see him and the WR discussing after the play) or a desperation throw/Hail Mary. His best throws, aside from the TD, were probably the two conscecutive 3rd down conversions that were called back. 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodHands15 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I’d like to know what his stats would have been if not for the few drops he had/called back on penalties. He threw a couple off balance darts that were right on the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I thought Josh played very well today. Probably his best game as a pro. And we didn’t have the run game cooking really or a bunch of turnovers. Good and encouraging game from the kid. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, SCBills said: He had a missed screen that he threw into the dirt. That was really it. Everything else was a miscommunication (you could see him and the WR discussing after the play) or a desperation throw/Hail Mary. His best throws, aside from the TD, were probably the two conscecutive 3rd down conversions that were called back. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: He completed 8 passes and his accuracy is awful. 269 total yards , 2 TD, 0 Turnovers , got the W. Yes , only 8/18 but his accuracy was not horrible by any means and I think 3 big time completions got called back cause of the OL. First game playing with this WR combination. No Clay . And facing the 4th ranked pass D. Stats can be misleading alot and today is a perfect example of that 7 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I can't believe some posters are seemingly pissed that Allen looked good today. Pretty crazy. But he wasn't MY guy!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, SCBills said: He had a missed screen that he threw into the dirt. That was really it. Everything else was a miscommunication (you could see him and the WR discussing after the play) or a desperation throw/Hail Mary. His best throws, aside from the TD, were probably the two conscecutive 3rd down conversions that were called back. The screen was the only one I could think of. I'm not saying Allen set the world on fire today but I thought his accuracy and decision making were good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He's playing exactly like Taylor played and we ran Taylor out of town. Upside being Allen has a cannon arm and he's a rookie. If he can settle into the offense and work on his touch passes Allen could easily be like Big Ben. If he doesn't ever "get it" he could be like Bortles. I think the coaching will be the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Yeah, he made some good throws and that's encouraging, but you guys are overreacting. Josh has a long way to go. @apuszczalowski convinced yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Go watch some of his SR year game film from Wyoming, you will see much of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 FWIW a few draftniks I follow on Twitter that were big Allen skeptics pre-draft have admitted he played very well today. It isn't just rose colored glasses. He objectively had a very good game for a rookie. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 He was impressive today. Sure he ducked one into the ground on an easy screen, but he LEAD his team to a victory. And with some of the recent progressions of the TEAM I am not sure it’s the worst supporting cast in the league any longer. Today was not a good game as far as the offense playing disciplined football. But there are enough weapons out there now to make plays. Its nice to get excited for the win, but let’s see if this can string together and get better. Today means nothing if next week he’s a deer in headlights and melts down or misses the couple big plays he made today. It’s all about getting better every week. The one thing I give him credit for, he is a leader of men. This group does seem to rally around him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: He's playing exactly like Taylor played and we ran Taylor out of town. Upside being Allen has a cannon arm and he's a rookie. If he can settle into the offense and work on his touch passes Allen could easily be like Big Ben. If he doesn't ever "get it" he could be like Bortles. I think the coaching will be the difference. You are comparing a player who was an 8 year vet to a rookie starting his 4th game and stating they are equal and seem confused on why taylor is gone- allen needs to improve but his floor seems to be taylor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: He's playing exactly like Taylor played and we ran Taylor out of town. Upside being Allen has a cannon arm and he's a rookie. If he can settle into the offense and work on his touch passes Allen could easily be like Big Ben. If he doesn't ever "get it" he could be like Bortles. I think the coaching will be the difference. Stop your crusade. He’s gone. He didnt score 3 points and cost the team the game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I thought Allen played very well - little to no signs of rust after not playing in a while, and the deep passes were on the money. I do have a problem with the widespread sentiment that Allen is somehow doing this all on his own. That’s dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 The people who are going to knock Allen are going to be the same people talking up Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: @apuszczalowski convinced yet? Dont you mean @jrober38 and @Fadingpain ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, Maine-iac said: He's playing exactly like Taylor played and we ran Taylor out of town. Upside being Allen has a cannon arm and he's a rookie. If he can settle into the offense and work on his touch passes Allen could easily be like Big Ben. If he doesn't ever "get it" he could be like Bortles. I think the coaching will be the difference. I don't see Tyrod in his game at all. Tyrod played scared and rarely let the ball rip. Allen has no problem slinging the rock and is a true duel threat. Remember , it was his 1st game back after ,6-7 weeks, had 2 rookies and a 2nd yr WR in the line up, one of which is his first game playing with. He showed big improvements in decision making, accuracy and awareness. He only left the pocket when necessary . As long as g as he keeps progressing, we're in wonderful shape , because his natural ability is off the charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, Teddy KGB said: Dont you mean @jrober38 and @Fadingpain ? No, he doubted Allen haters exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: He's playing exactly like Taylor played and we ran Taylor out of town. Upside being Allen has a cannon arm and he's a rookie. If he can settle into the offense and work on his touch passes Allen could easily be like Big Ben. If he doesn't ever "get it" he could be like Bortles. I think the coaching will be the difference. Taylor was 28. Josh Allen is 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: He completed 8 passes and his accuracy is awful. He had 2 or 3 bad passes, other than that he was accurate and affected by receiving errors or penalties negating good plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Stop your crusade. He’s gone. He didnt score 3 points and cost the team the game. This. Not only that but the Defense was struggling early in the game and penalties were killing us. Josh Allen to me was the bright spot early in the game..then after the ejections things seem to change. I dont why so many people are negative after a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said: He had 2 or 3 bad passes, other than that he was accurate and affected by receiving errors or penalties negating good plays. What receiving errors? If you’re gonna absolve Allen and blame the receivers, be specific please. “Receiving errors” sounds like you didn’t watch the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) Allen is just unconventional. He has a little Cam Newton in him. A little Tannahill. A little Trubisky. Maybe a little Fitz. He just isn’t going to be a guy that will drop back and beat you but if you don’t respect the downfield passing game, he can make you pay. There is a ton of heart, a lot of moxy a ton of running ability...It’s just a different look. I think the team responds to him and in the right offense he can win. It might take some getting used to but it’s fun to watch. Edited November 25, 2018 by Brianmoorman4jesus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: What receiving errors? If you’re gonna absolve Allen and blame the receivers, be specific please. “Receiving errors” sounds like you didn’t watch the game. Absolve him from what? Missing a screen pass? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: He completed 8 passes and his accuracy is awful. There really couldn't be a more overblown criticism of Allen. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: He completed 8 passes and his accuracy is awful. Hi Jerry. Hanging at TBD these days? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, Skins Malone said: Absolve him from what? Missing a screen pass? He said Allen was accurate beyond “receiving errors” and penalties, which don’t count as incompletions anyways (and Allen was burned by 2 calls against his line, not arguing that.) but if receiver errors contributed to his passing line, what were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: What receiving errors? If you’re gonna absolve Allen and blame the receivers, be specific please. “Receiving errors” sounds like you didn’t watch the game. Sure I did. And I watched Thompson and others drop a couple of passes that hit them in the hands. I’d have to go back to specifically see who the others were. I wasn’t taking notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: I thought Allen played very well - little to no signs of rust after not playing in a while, and the deep passes were on the money. I do have a problem with the widespread sentiment that Allen is somehow doing this all on his own. That’s dumb. Hes obviously not but nobody is exactly going out of their way to help him. Pass Pro is decent - I’ll concede that However: Zero run game. Constant penalties negating big throws WRs not on the same page as Allen Deonte Thompson not hauling in that 30 yard dart pretty much sums up the help he has right now. When you’re 3 biggest weapons are a rookie UDFA WR, a second year WR and a recently claimed off waivers WR....his supporting cast is basically the complete opposite of Mahomes. Edited November 25, 2018 by SCBills 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Allen is just in conventional. He has a little Cam Newton in him. A little Tannahill. A little Trubisky. Maybe a little Fitz. He just isn’t going to be a guy that will drop back and beat you but if you don’t respect the downfield passing game, he can make you pay. There is a ton of heart, a lot of moxy a ton of running ability...It’s just a different look. I think the team responds to him and in the right offense he can win. It might take some getting used to but it’s fun to watch. Its unconventional. And just stop man. Josh Allen is Josh Allen...simple as that hes not a bunch of players put together. And can u address how after one good game by Barkley you said Allen would never be good...and Alken has a good game and you are on the Allen train all the sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, buffaloboyinATL said: Sure I did. And I watched Thompson and others drop a couple of passes that hit them in the hands. I’d have to go back to specifically see who the others were. I wasn’t taking notes. Thompson had a ball punched out by the closing defender yes. Stretch to call that a drop and an error. Very accurate ball by Allen though, maybe a split second late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said: He said Allen was accurate beyond “receiving errors” and penalties, which don’t count as incompletions anyways (and Allen was burned by 2 calls against his line, not arguing that.) but if receiver errors contributed to his passing line, what were they? To that I can only think of the Thompson dropped pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Dont you mean @jrober38 and @Fadingpain ? I'm sure they will be along shortly to inform us all that we have no idea just how bad Allen was today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Allen is just in conventional. He has a little Cam Newton in him. A little Tannahill. A little Trubisky. Maybe a little Fitz. He just isn’t going to be a guy that will drop back and beat you but if you don’t respect the downfield passing game, he can make you pay. There is a ton of heart, a lot of moxy a ton of running ability...It’s just a different look. I think the team responds to him and in the right offense he can win. It might take some getting used to but it’s fun to watch. Maybe. Once they get a true #1 receiver, and 1-2 top shelf linemen, he'll be more like Favre. He has a cannon and has fun like a kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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