John Wawrow: Struggles Aside, Bills GM Not Veering from Rebuilding Plan

[26CornerBlitz]

 

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) — With little money to spend and few impact players interested in signing with the Bills given the uncertainty at quarterback this past offseason, general manager Brandon Beane understood Buffalo’s offense was going to struggle.

 

Little did he realize how much.

 

“There’s nobody that goes into a season and looks for either side of the ball to have a down year and to be statistically where our offense is,” Beane told The Associated Press during a wide-ranging interview before Buffalo entered its bye week.

 

He then recalled something former coach John Fox once said when the two worked together in Carolina.

 

“There’s nobody going to rescue you in-season,” said Beane, in his second year in Buffalo. “You’ve got to dig out of it yourself. And all you can do is put your head down and keep working.”

 

Much of the heavy lifting will have to wait for the offseason when Buffalo is projected to be more than $90 million under the NFL’s salary cap, plus a current stockpile of 10 draft picks.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Seriously, another rebuilding thread?   

 

Call me a troll if you wish 26 there are dozens of these threads 

 

[Soda Popinski]

It's easy to stick to the plan right now, when you can't sign any FAs or make any trades, what else is he supposed to say?  

 

But he and everyone else in that organization know they can't screw around this offseason with that FA money and those draft picks.  They have to put a good offense out there this next season or someone's getting fired. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Soda Popinski said:

It's easy to stick to the plan right now, when you can't sign any FAs or make any trades, what else is he supposed to say?  

 

But he and everyone else in that organization know they can't screw around this offseason with that FA money and those draft picks.  They have to put a good offense out there this next season or someone's getting fired. 

 

They have to begin to show results in 2019. It's a pivotal year. 

[kota]

Pretty sure that if you draft a QB at 7 you are rebuilding.  Just saying... Why is this a surprise for anyone?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, kota said:

Pretty sure that if you draft a QB at 7 you are rebuilding.  Just saying... Why is this a surprise for anyone?

 

Fact: They traded up to #7 from #22.

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Seriously, another rebuilding thread?   

 

Call me a troll if you wish 26 there are dozens of these threads 

 

 

Well it is a new and direct story from Beane.  So I dont see an issue with this thread to discuss Beanes comments.  Its not even remotely as bad as the threads plaguing this site right now.  I mean one dude in a thread today said NP was not good, too weak of an arm, and barely a backup...then also starts a thread saying racism is why he is getting back lash and says he can be good and used Alex Smith as an example of how he should become a good player somewhere else like other Bills castoffs.  Its just nonsense over and over on this board, at least this thread is a real story and deals with real comments.

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well it is a new and direct story from Beane.  So I dont see an issue with this thread to discuss Beanes comments.  Its not even remotely as bad as the threads plaguing this site right now.  I mean one dude in a thread today said NP was not good, too weak of an arm, and barely a backup...then also starts a thread saying racism is why he is getting back lash and says he can be good and used Alex Smith as an example of how he should become a good player somewhere else like other Bills castoffs.  Its just nonsense over and over on this board, at least this thread is a real story and deals with real comments.

 

Get out your can of troll spray and adjust your ignore settings. 

Edited November 16, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[BillsVet]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Fact: They traded up to #7 from #22.

 

No, they traded with TB from 12 to 7 for Allen.  They traded with BAL from 22 to 16 for Edmunds.

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well it is a new and direct story from Beane.  So I dont see an issue with this thread to discuss Beanes comments.  Its not even remotely as bad as the threads plaguing this site right now.  I mean one dude in a thread today said NP was not good, too weak of an arm, and barely a backup...then also starts a thread saying racism is why he is getting back lash and says he can be good and used Alex Smith as an example of how he should become a good player somewhere else like other Bills castoffs.  Its just nonsense over and over on this board, at least this thread is a real story and deals with real comments.

 

 

I don't think the actual thread was nearly as annoying as when I clicked into it and somebody was all butt hurt then insisted on just posting a page worth of links to other threads.

[Alphadawg7]

13 minutes ago, kota said:

Pretty sure that if you draft a QB at 7 you are rebuilding.  Just saying... Why is this a surprise for anyone?

 

EXACTLY!  And they traded up a second time to get Edmunds.

 

How anyone saw this year as anything other than a rebuilding year and an expected down year for the offense is beyond me.  NOTHING they did was about THIS year.  

 

I mean in a year and a half of being here, Beane fixed the cap situation, built a stout defense, and got the QB of the future.  In his first draft, he landed TWO first rounders that he traded up for both of WITHOUT giving up any future first rounders or even any future picks.  They also landed Taron (who opposing QB's are struggling throwing on with a measly 76 QB rating against Taron) and Phillips, both promising young prospects.  And Wyatt sure seems promising too...all in ONE draft where we traded TWICE up in the first round.  

 

I mean people need to chill the F out, this team is on a great path for the first time in a long time.  How successful that path will be is going to be tied to how Allen develops and how they utilize this offseason to elevate the offense.  But given how great they did clearing out the cap and fixing the D, I think they its more than reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt.  

Edited November 15, 2018 by Alphadawg7

[Heitz]

5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

EXACTLY!  And they traded up a second time to get Edmunds.

 

How anyone saw this year as anything other than a rebuilding year and an expected down year for the offense is beyond me.  NOTHING they did was about THIS year.  

 

I mean in a year and a half of being here, Beane fixed the cap situation, built a stout defense, and got the QB of the future.  In his first draft, he landed TWO first rounders that he traded up for both of WITHOUT giving up any future first rounders or even any future picks.  They also landed Taron (who opposing QB's are struggling throwing on with a measly 76 QB rating against Taron) and Phillips, both promising young prospects.  And Wyatt sure seems promising too...all in ONE draft where we traded TWICE up in the first round.  

 

I mean people need to chill the F out, this team is on a great path for the first time in a long time.  How successful that path will be is going to be tied to how Allen develops and how they utilize this offseason to elevate the offense.  But given how great they did clearing out the cap and fixing the D, I think they its more than reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt.  

 

 

I read your post and I read the article, but I don't believe it.  I know that McClappy promised the Pegula's that they would win the Super Bowl THIS year - I bet they're pissed! 

 

? 

 

Seriously though, not sure why people are having a hard time comprehending this season.  It is what they they said it was...

[ddaryl]

If Beane did not see the disaster that was coming with No established Vet QB and piece meal OL... and average on their best day WR corps then he has no business being a GM

 

 

[Búfalo Blanco]

21 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Seriously, another rebuilding thread?   

 

Call me a troll if you wish 26 there are dozens of these threads 

 

Troll... 

[dubs]

21 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Seriously, another rebuilding thread?   

 

Call me a troll if you wish 26 there are dozens of these threads 

 

 

Yeah, I believe you are incorrect on this one. This is a legit article about Beane discussing the plan, so it’s akin to to comments under the article. Good thread, IMO. 

 

“Someone needs to be fired if someone does or doesn’t do something right now, aarrgghh” - that’s a bad thread. 

 

Just my my humble opinion. 

[CookieG]

Please tell me he didn't say "fully pregnant".

[vorpma]

29 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

EXACTLY!  And they traded up a second time to get Edmunds.

 

How anyone saw this year as anything other than a rebuilding year and an expected down year for the offense is beyond me.  NOTHING they did was about THIS year.  

 

I mean in a year and a half of being here, Beane fixed the cap situation, built a stout defense, and got the QB of the future.  In his first draft, he landed TWO first rounders that he traded up for both of WITHOUT giving up any future first rounders or even any future picks.  They also landed Taron (who opposing QB's are struggling throwing on with a measly 76 QB rating against Taron) and Phillips, both promising young prospects.  And Wyatt sure seems promising too...all in ONE draft where we traded TWICE up in the first round.  

 

I mean people need to chill the F out, this team is on a great path for the first time in a long time.  How successful that path will be is going to be tied to how Allen develops and how they utilize this offseason to elevate the offense.  But given how great they did clearing out the cap and fixing the D, I think they its more than reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt.  

Great post Alphadawg7!

18 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

Yeah, I believe you are incorrect on this one. This is a legit article about Beane discussing the plan, so it’s akin to to comments under the article. Good thread, IMO. 

 

“Someone needs to be fired if someone does or doesn’t do something right now, aarrgghh” - that’s a bad thread. 

 

Just my my humble opinion. 

Temper Tantrums = FIRE EVERYBODY NOW AND NEXT YEAR!

[John from Riverside]

22 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

If Beane did not see the disaster that was coming with No established Vet QB and piece meal OL... and average on their best day WR corps then he has no business being a GM

 

 

In all seriousness what do you expect him to say?

 

"We know that Buffalo is not a desired place for the top free agents......so we are going to sign who will take our money and biuld through the draft"

 

Would ppl feel better if he said this?

[TroutDog]

First, I don’t see anything wrong with this thread (save the pouting contained herein). 

 

I love what they’re doing: develop a solid plan and execute it while still being nimble enough to pick up needed parts along the way. 

 

Next year ear will be fun and beyond that should be an absolute blast!

[ndirish1978]

58 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

 

 

 

 

This is such a passive-aggressive beta move

[IDBillzFan]

1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Seriously, another rebuilding thread?   

 

Call me a troll if you wish 26 there are dozens of these threads 

 

 

I would argue that (1) most of the rebuild threads are posters giving their 2 cents, whereas this is a link to an article and (2) Wawrow is far and away the single best beat writer for the Bills. It's simply a really bad idea to bury his story in one of eight threads started by someone who is convinced every incomplete pass means the Bills need to gut OBD, fire everyone and chase the Pegulas out of town.

[Maybe Someday]

1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) — With little money to spend and few impact players interested in signing with the Bills given the uncertainty at quarterback this past offseason, general manager Brandon Beane understood Buffalo’s offense was going to struggle.

 

Little did he realize how much.

 

“There’s nobody that goes into a season and looks for either side of the ball to have a down year and to be statistically where our offense is,” Beane told The Associated Press during a wide-ranging interview before Buffalo entered its bye week.

 

He then recalled something former coach John Fox once said when the two worked together in Carolina.

 

“There’s nobody going to rescue you in-season,” said Beane, in his second year in Buffalo. “You’ve got to dig out of it yourself. And all you can do is put your head down and keep working.”

 

Much of the heavy lifting will have to wait for the offseason when Buffalo is projected to be more than $90 million under the NFL’s salary cap, plus a current stockpile of 10 draft picks.

 

This is a big part of why Allen's performance over the next 6 games is so important.  Hopefully he plays well enough to remove that uncertainty so some decent FA WRs want to come here.

[BillsFanMike]

I hope Allen does play well and is a star for years to come. Buffalo fans deserve a little good fortune. Go Bills.

[longtimebillsfan]

Excellent article!  This is what many "rational" posters on this site have been saying.  Maybe this article will get some of the agitated posters off  the ledge.

 

Thank you for starting this thread.

[billsfan1959]

23 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

I would argue that (1) most of the rebuild threads are posters giving their 2 cents, whereas this is a link to an article and (2) Wawrow is far and away the single best beat writer for the Bills. It's simply a really bad idea to bury his story in one of eight threads started by someone who is convinced every incomplete pass means the Bills need to gut OBD, fire everyone and chase the Pegulas out of town.

IMHO, the most objective writer with the most reasonable takes on issues re the Bills. 

[dubs]

8 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Excellent article!  This is what many "rational" posters on this site have been saying.  Maybe this article will get some of the agitated posters off  the ledge.

 

Thank you for starting this thread.

 

Probably explains why this thread is barely two pages yet threads demanding firings and have “McBeane” or “McClappy” get to a dozen pages in an instant. 

[vorpma]

38 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

I would argue that (1) most of the rebuild threads are posters giving their 2 cents, whereas this is a link to an article and (2) Wawrow is far and away the single best beat writer for the Bills. It's simply a really bad idea to bury his story in one of eight threads started by someone who is convinced every incomplete pass means the Bills need to gut OBD, fire everyone and chase the Pegulas out of town.

LABillzFan, this is the greatest post ever on TBD!!!!

5 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

Probably explains why this thread is barely two pages yet threads demanding firings and have “McBeane” or “McClappy” get to a dozen pages in an instant. 

 

15 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Excellent article!  This is what many "rational" posters on this site have been saying.  Maybe this article will get some of the agitated posters off  the ledge.

 

Thank you for starting this thread.

I want to think that but one of two thing - they love drama or they really are new to the NFL and don't get it!! Maybe both!

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:

It's easy to stick to the plan right now, when you can't sign any FAs or make any trades, what else is he supposed to say?  

 

But he and everyone else in that organization know they can't screw around this offseason with that FA money and those draft picks.  They have to put a good offense out there this next season or someone's getting fired. 

 

...agree Pops......the Plan is long term and instant gratification is "irrational exuberance".......with ten picks and FA bucks in the cookie jar, 2019 is definitely a defining moment and probably one of the most pivotal years for Bflo since the Polian era.......if we are in the SAME position next year at this time as we are now in, there could be some significant changes "in the wind"....stay tuned.....

[Jrb1979]

1 hour ago, BillsFanMike said:

I hope Allen does play well and is a star for years to come. Buffalo fans deserve a little good fortune. Go Bills.

Buffalo fans have a little good fortune with the way the Blue and Gold are playing. 

[JoPar_v2]

2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Seriously, another rebuilding thread?   

 

Call me a troll if you wish 26 there are dozens of these threads 

 

Brand new story.

 

plus I am pretty sure 26 ignores you, so you’re whining to no one.

Edited November 15, 2018 by JoPar_v2

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

few impact players interested in signing with the Bills given the uncertainty at quarterback this past offseason, general manager Brandon Beane understood Buffalo’s offense was going to struggle.

 

We may have a little more money to spend, but unless Allen lights it up the last 6 games, "the uncertainty at quarterback" still holds true.  Premium offensive talent, if it comes at all, will come at a premium.

[TAinLack.]

3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) — With little money to spend and few impact players interested in signing with the Bills given the uncertainty at quarterback this past offseason, general manager Brandon Beane understood Buffalo’s offense was going to struggle.

 

Little did he realize how much.

 

“There’s nobody that goes into a season and looks for either side of the ball to have a down year and to be statistically where our offense is,” Beane told The Associated Press during a wide-ranging interview before Buffalo entered its bye week.

 

He then recalled something former coach John Fox once said when the two worked together in Carolina.

 

“There’s nobody going to rescue you in-season,” said Beane, in his second year in Buffalo. “You’ve got to dig out of it yourself. And all you can do is put your head down and keep working.”

 

Much of the heavy lifting will have to wait for the offseason when Buffalo is projected to be more than $90 million under the NFL’s salary cap, plus a current stockpile of 10 draft picks.

Another good read 26CornerBlitz, Thanks!

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:

 

We may have a little more money to spend, but unless Allen lights it up the last 6 games, "the uncertainty at quarterback" still holds true.  Premium offensive talent, if it comes at all, will come at a premium.

 

I'm not expecting him to light it up with what he has to work with.  I'm looking for more encouraging signs that the game is beginning to slow down for him by showing more pocket poise and better decision making along with throwing with more consistent mechanics, better timing, anticipation, accuracy, and touch.

[reddogblitz]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I'm not expecting him to light it up with what he has to work with.  I'm looking for more encouraging signs that the game is beginning to slow down for him by showing more pocket poise and better decision making along with throwing with more consistent mechanics, better timing, anticipation, accuracy, and touch.

 

That's cool.  But if you're a free agent WR and you have the chance to go to Atlanta or Seattle or New Orleans or San Diego and the money's + or - 10% are you gonna go to one of those teams or to the team that has a project that is "showing more pocket poise and better decision making along with throwing with more consistent mechanics, better timing, anticipation, accuracy, and touch."?

 

that was my point.

 

Beane is likely gonna have to do a great sales job, and overpay.

Edited November 15, 2018 by reddogblitz

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I'm not expecting him to light it up with what he has to work with.  I'm looking for more encouraging signs that the game is beginning to slow down for him by showing more pocket poise and better decision making along with throwing with more consistent mechanics, better timing, anticipation, accuracy, and touch.

 

...fair assessment......and unreasonable to think there are no "growing pains" even if picked at #7.....as Steve Young said, "more collegiate QB's fail versus succeed at the NFL level due to the speed and complexity of the game".....and in all fairness, who from this class so far is the creme rising to "the top"?.......

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

That's cool.  But if you're a free agent WR and you have the chance to go to Atlanta or Seattle or New Orleans or San Diego and the money's + or - 10% are you gonna go to one of those teams or to the team that has a project that is "showing more pocket poise and better decision making along with throwing with more consistent mechanics, better timing, anticipation, accuracy, and touch."?

 

that was my point.

 

Beane is gonna have to do a great sales job, and overpay.

 

I agree with that and in many instances he'll have to do just that as is often the case in UFA. 

Edited November 15, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Domdab99]

If anyone knows about sucking in-season, it's John Fox

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

What a convenient cover to just be able to say being terrible and losing is part of a plan. That way nothing you do can be used against you. We massively turned over the roster last year and somehow made the playoffs. What would be the thought process behind going backwards with mostly their own players?