BobDVA Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You must have loved the end of the half play when he was too scared to throw a Hail Mary pass from the Bears 37 to the end zone and instead tucked the ball only to run out of bounds with no time left. Brilliant! I did not say he was perfect 26, I think he did as well as he could with the way everyone else on the offense was playing. I do not hate the guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, BobDVA said: I did not say he was perfect 26, I think he did as well as he could with the way everyone else on the offense was playing. I do not hate the guy! If a limited QB has that little situational awareness, then he has no business being on an NFL field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You mean like throwing a minus 4 yard out on third & three? As if we've never seen this crap before. EJ, TT.... Losman, Holcomb.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I think you keep rolling out Peterman until Allen is ready. Let Anderson do what he was brought in to do which is mentor Allen. This season is lost and if there is any consideration in regards to keep Peterman on the roster remainder of the year or next season he needs to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, billieve420 said: I think you keep rolling out Peterman until Allen is ready. Let Anderson do what he was brought in to do which is mentor Allen. This season is lost and if there is any consideration in regards to keep Peterman on the roster remainder of the year or next season he needs to play. Why not try Barkley? He's here now.....will he do any worse? they're all garbage (not placing JA in that catagory as no one has any idea how he will do in the future) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: EJ couldn't complete them. Haha. Keep hating. EJ would be the best qb on this roster. Compare their career numbers. EJ had a better start to his rookie year than Allen and it’s not really close. That’s how bad our qbs are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha. Keep hating. EJ would be the best qb on this roster. Compare their career numbers. EJ had a better start to his rookie year than Allen and it’s not really close. That’s how bad our qbs are. Never cared for EJ but this is true....good point.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 hours ago, thebandit27 said: He is, statistically, the worst QB ever to play the game We're not talking about one bad game distorting an otherwise solid body of work; he's absolutely atrocious all of the time. As in unforgivably bad. He's been outplayed by a rookie from Wyoming that isn't close to being caught up to the speed of the NFL game. He's literally thrown away 3 games purely on his terrible passing. I don't understand the visceral disdain for the third string qb. If you want to exhibit your revulsion then direct it toward the pathetic play of the OL that makes it difficult for either the running and passing plays to develop. If you want to express your disdain for the play of a particular position then it would be more appropriate to direct it toward the receivers who in general couldn't get free from an arthritic 90 CB. The issue of the low quality play from Peterman is easily resolved when the qbs ahead of him are healthy enough. The main problem with this team has little to do with the qb who only plays when the two qbs ahead of him are injured.The substantive problem is that the starters on the OL and receiving unit aren't even good enough to be adequate backups. I don't want to generalize the problem with the receivers and include Zay Jones in that incapable mix because he is starting to play fairly well. I believe with good qbing he will be a productive receiver. I also want to offer congrats to you and your family for the new addition. I hope you are not spending too much time on the internet in your attempt to avoid doing your fair share in changing the diapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, JPP said: Why not try Barkley? He's here now.....will he do any worse? they're all garbage (not placing JA in that catagory as no one has any idea how he will do in the future) If the coaching staff believes he knows enough of the playbook and are potentially interested in bringing him back next year that would be fine. I rather eliminate any doubt about whether Peterman can play in this league. If they keep him on the roster and can't rely on him to be the backup he serves no purpose on this team and should be cut. Edited November 6, 2018 by billieve420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, JohnC said: I don't understand the visceral disdain for the third string qb. If you want to exhibit your revulsion then direct it toward the pathetic play of the OL that makes it difficult for either the running and passing plays to develop. If you want to express your disdain for the play of a particular position then it would be more appropriate to direct it toward the receivers who in general couldn't get free from an arthritic 90 CB. The issue of the low quality play from Peterman is easily resolved when the qbs ahead of him are healthy enough. The main problem with this team has little to do with the qb who only plays when the two qbs ahead of him are injured.The substantive problem is that the starters on the OL and receiving unit aren't even good enough to be adequate backups. I don't want to generalize the problem with the receivers and include Zay Jones in that incapable mix because he is starting to play fairly well. I believe with good qbing he will be a productive receiver. I also want to offer congrats to you and your family for the new addition. I hope you are not spending too much time on the internet in your attempt to avoid doing your fair share in changing the diapers. All of what you say makes sense; I just happen to evaluate the QB play mutually exclusive from the rest of the offense. It's possible that Peterman would be an ok QB3 if he were surrounded by excellent role players; he isn't. Thanks for the well wishes; little miss Bandette is doing great! I'm more of a workhorse dad than an avoider; I'd say the diaper ratio has been 98/1/1 for dad/mom/twins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha. Keep hating. EJ would be the best qb on this roster. Compare their career numbers. EJ had a better start to his rookie year than Allen and it’s not really close. That’s how bad our qbs are. I mean..... EJ actually had a nice start to his career in general. but that sad thing is over the last month present day ej would be a better option. "first month of his career" EJ in a heartbeat. lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: From a ZERO QB rating of 45ish is a monster improvement It's a participation trophy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Peterman can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, JPP said: You could only put so much makeup on a pig but will get the same results.......expect better than the crap we had the last few years.....JA may have some hope....may.... You should know I’m busting chops here (previously) We need better. Nate should not be the starter but due to injury he is. We all hope Josh has learned these past weeks. (Oh and my pig is prettier) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Every interception was a poorly thrown ball to a receiver that was well covered. He made poor decisions all game and hung onto the ball too long. I will certainly give him the throw to KB that should have been caught for a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You should know I’m busting chops here (previously) We need better. Nate should not be the starter but due to injury he is. We all hope Josh has learned these past weeks. (Oh and my pig is prettier) I know just tired of the crap thats been rolling through here......I think they could of addressed the issue better in the offseason than the results we have now.....thats on coaching......im afraid to now believing that McClappy has no clue whatsoever at addressing the QB position...also applies to JA......you go to all this trouble to get this guy and go into the season with peterman as the only other QB available was a recipe for disaster....plus to compound this you do absoloutely NOTHING to get any help for this rookie QB you moved up to get! Either they didnt care or simply had blind faith in Peterman that he would produce as a compatant starting QB??.....Clappy should not be obtaining "offensive" players......so far its been a dismal failure..... 21 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: You should know I’m busting chops here (previously) We need better. Nate should not be the starter but due to injury he is. We all hope Josh has learned these past weeks. (Oh and my pig is prettier) glad about your pig....lol...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Every time Peterman takes the field dink/dunk seems to be the game plan. Look at his career yards per attempt. Look at it. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PeteNa00.htm Ok, I looked at it lol. And y'know what, you're right, it's not good. And amongst starters Josh Allen's is the lowest in the league. Josh the strong armed flame throwing field stretcher. Daboll pretty much has to run a predominately ultra conservative 'horizontal' offence. Quite apart from the QB position, he just hasn't got the O-line and WR corps to do anything else. YPA is a reasonably reliable indicator of team success, but it is for that reason in large measure a team stat. You cannot pin it all on the QB because the calc does not adjust for receiver or O-line quality or for scheme. The adjusted calc is even less accurate as a pure QB performance measurement because, for example, sack yards come out of the gross passing yards total and sacks are added to attempts. Conversely, but to same point, guys like Montana and Warner are going to have great YPAs in part because of the playmakers at their disposal. Our QBs may be able to manage the occasional seven yard slant, but there is no Rice or Taylor here to take it 90 yards to the house. And it's probably worth mentioning that Josh and Nate are not only on bad offences, but they are raw, inexperienced players, both of them. All of this year's first rounders who are starting are right at the bottom of the league in YPA, even the ones who are clearly talented passers (as far as prospects are concerned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, JPP said: Never cared for EJ but this is true....good point.... EJ was the only QB I can remember recently marching down the field like a boss to win a game with a TD in the last two minutes, at Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnC said: I don't understand the visceral disdain for the third string qb. If you want to exhibit your revulsion then direct it toward the pathetic play of the OL that makes it difficult for either the running and passing plays to develop. If you want to express your disdain for the play of a particular position then it would be more appropriate to direct it toward the receivers who in general couldn't get free from an arthritic 90 CB. The issue of the low quality play from Peterman is easily resolved when the qbs ahead of him are healthy enough. The main problem with this team has little to do with the qb who only plays when the two qbs ahead of him are injured.The substantive problem is that the starters on the OL and receiving unit aren't even good enough to be adequate backups. I don't want to generalize the problem with the receivers and include Zay Jones in that incapable mix because he is starting to play fairly well. I believe with good qbing he will be a productive receiver. I also want to offer congrats to you and your family for the new addition. I hope you are not spending too much time on the internet in your attempt to avoid doing your fair share in changing the diapers. He isnt the 3rd stringer, he was the starter this season. I cant believe the love shown here to a scrub QB who has shown on multiple occasions he isnt an NFL QB. Yet he needs more chances, or cant be evaluated because of the rest of his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, row_33 said: EJ was the only QB I can remember recently marching down the field like a boss to win a game with a TD in the last two minutes, at Carolina. vaguely remember that one....he had a decent 1st season until that cleveland game that took him out......never really the same since...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: He isnt the 3rd stringer, he was the starter this season. I cant believe the love shown here to a scrub QB who has shown on multiple occasions he isnt an NFL QB. Yet he needs more chances, or cant be evaluated because of the rest of his team. He is currently the third string qb. The reason why he was the starter when the season began was that the qb that this organization brought in to be the starter was beaten out by him. The GM has admitted he made a mistake in delaying bringing in Anderson. When he finally got here he was not ready to play right away. It was a management mistake that Peterman, who at best is a backup qb, was in position to start. The notion that I have a love for Peterman's game is off-the wall stupidity. He is a fifth round backup and never will be anything beyond that. The reason why he was in a position to start was because the organization didn't handle the qb situation very well. They would be the first to acknowledge that. As far as I am concerned it doesn't matter whether the qb discussions are about Peterman, McCarron, Anderson or even Tyrod. Those are wasteful and inconsequential issues that have little influence toward the success of the team. The substantive issue revolves around the development of Josh Allen. The ridiculously hotly discussion about the other qbs is simply a distraction. In other words it is mostly unadulterated bullshiiiit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 The persistent EJ and Rex love--it's mind boggling. This organization has given its fans CTE.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: The persistent EJ and Rex love--it's mind boggling. This organization has given its fans CTE.... Incredible.......we have been beaten down so bad that there is actually this funny funny thread about Peterman......dear lord they all suck......if anything im not angry anymore about this season ive become numb now.......its just entertaining now......I watch the games now and check off the interceptions and laugh....its good for my own mental health...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Peterman played like hot garbage. Open your eyeballs. The guy is one of the worst, if not the worst QBs to take the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Peterman played like hot garbage. Open your eyeballs. The guy is one of the worst, if not the worst QBs to take the field. For what's it's worth I have seen worse performances by a guy named the same. 3 hours ago, JPP said: You could only put so much makeup on a pig but will get the same results.......expect better than the crap we had the last few years.....JA may have some hope....may.... There is a ton of truth in this statement that I has witnessed several times on those long drinking nights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 He played like a backup...as soon as the opposition gets a decent lead and the ball has to be put in his hands, that's all she wrote. Particularly with no recievers and a disastrous o line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: For what's it's worth I have seen worse performances by a guy named the same. There is a ton of truth in this statement that I has witnessed several times on those long drinking nights. LOL......very very true! It kinda hits a bit hard the next morning when vision goes back to 20-20...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Kevin1778 said: He is right. 1) Bears have top 5 defense. 2) Peterman has only started 4 games. 3) His stats were in line with a long time veteran like Anderson in his two games. 4) His line and receivers did not show up. 5) There was no running game. Is Peterman an NFL starting QB. No. Is he a more than adequate backup. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 hours ago, row_33 said: EJ was the only QB I can remember recently marching down the field like a boss to win a game with a TD in the last two minutes, at Carolina. On that drive he threw a pass directly to a Carolina DB who dropped the ball despite it being an easy catch. That tends to get forgotten in the aftermath, but drops are a part of the game. EJ even hit on the long ball once in a while. He did some nice things. Horrible QB on balance. 13 minutes ago, leonbus23 said: Bills fans have been served rotten garbage for an entire generation under the label "dinner." It's gotten to the point where a lot of them don't remember what a well cooked meal tastes like. And who can blame them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Saw something on Facebook. Not sure if it was true or not, hopefully it's not. It said peterman and his wife were out for his wife's birthday and bills fans started calling him names and throwing food at them. Please tell me this isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Im more down on the coaches... Asking Peterman to throw 49 times? Crazy!!! When they played Green Bay they had Allen drop back 39 times to 16 hand offs. Not to mention the WRs are not all that great. Not to make excuses but the coaching needs help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 19 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: That is hilarious....... 3 yard dumps all game..... 63% completion %.... Here's a stat..... Peterman completed two passes beyong the first down chains all game. One was an 11 yard pass and the other a 6 yard pass. All other first downs were YAC. Just pathetic........ pathetic on the part of what exactly?...playcalling? no sep. by the wrs? no one running deeper patterns? no time to let plays develop( and hopefully someone comes open)? or is it just that nate didn't see anyone downfield? ....and missed a lot of opportunties? kubiak was 100% right. as a matter of fact and not to derail the topic.... someone is going to have to go this year, even if it's not till after the season. there has to be some public display of accountability by the staff and here's what should happen.... fire castillo, culley and robiskie and that right there starts to put things right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, billieve420 said: I think you keep rolling out Peterman until Allen is ready. Let Anderson do what he was brought in to do which is mentor Allen. This season is lost and if there is any consideration in regards to keep Peterman on the roster remainder of the year or next season he needs to play. this is 100% common sense and why this hasn't been made a public declaration by now is flat out stupidity. anderson doesn't want to be out there getting whatever rep. he had dragged through the mud...let alone his body. let nate start against the jets and see if he can build upon the bears game. this will also clearly demonstrate dabol's ability. doesn't matter who plays qb, if they try to force sidestep shady , get stuffed and get behind, the jets won't have to do anything but rush. no way would i bring allen back before the bye. Edited November 7, 2018 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, artmalibu said: Im more down on the coaches... Asking Peterman to throw 49 times? Crazy!!! When they played Green Bay they had Allen drop back 39 times to 16 hand offs. Not to mention the WRs are not all that great. Not to make excuses but the coaching needs help. Shady is winded for the day after a few carries you can't hand off 60 times, gotta throw it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Stockholm syndrome: this board hasn’t seen seen a real nfl offense so they are defending Peterman’s play or Josh Allen 80 yard passing games. So sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, artmalibu said: Im more down on the coaches... Asking Peterman to throw 49 times? Crazy!!! When they played Green Bay they had Allen drop back 39 times to 16 hand offs. Not to mention the WRs are not all that great. Not to make excuses but the coaching needs help. When your only completing 3-5 yards per pass, you have to throw it a ton to move the ball. Brees can throw 20 times a game, but when he is throwing 72 yard TDs, you dont need to have many attempts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Peterman is not the reason we lost the game. I saw some encouraging signs. He looked comfortable in the pocket, went through his reads, threw only 1 real INT. The comments are interesting. "He checked down and didn't challenge the defense" is popular, but Peterman didn't throw INT's. True, he only had 4 YPA, but I'll cut the guy some slack. He finally had a game that wasn't a total cluster *****, so maybe he can become a serviceable backup. Maybe. I don't think so, but it will be interesting to find out. Edited November 7, 2018 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Peterman is not the reason we lost the game. I saw some encouraging signs. He looked comfortable in the pocket, went through his reads, threw only 1 real INT. The comments are interesting. "He checked down and didn't challenge the defense" is popular, but if Peterman didn't throw INT's. True, he only had 4 YPA, but I'll cut the guy some slack. He finally had a game that wasn't a total cluster *****, so maybe he can become a serviceable backup. Maybe. I don't think so, but it will be interesting to find out. aside from the visit to the Pats the last half of the season isn't that big a challenge, will give him time to try and settle into the role 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) When the team doesn't respect the QB, they can stack the line, making running difficult and then know all the passes will be within 5 yards of the Los. At least Anderson threw it down field. As for the above and Peterman making the reads, he thus had time and still threw only short passes. Edited November 7, 2018 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 22 hours ago, nucci said: most of this throws were 3 yd passes to his right.....the bar is very low This was the biggest problem. Dabol had little to work with and did the best he could with Peterman's limited arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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