The Now Moment Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 9 hours ago, blacklabel said: The past few weeks have shown quite the lack of confidence in Murphy as he's been a healthy scratch. He consistently whiffed on blitz pick ups and struggles all around as a blocker because of his size. If they trade Shady, they better think about picking up someone else from a practice squad or wherever because Ivory/Murphy isn't going to cut it. I doubt it happens but some offers can be hard to pass up as well. We will see if anything shakes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 16 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Less posting. More eye exams. Maybe.. Because I sure don't see McCoy getting any younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 17 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: We would literally be trading away the best receiver on the team and definitely not getting an established wr back. And how effing sad is that? Our best receiver is a 30 year old RB, who to date hasn't gotten us any better than second place in the AFCE. I can appreciate hwo talented McCoy is, which is exactly why I deal him to help rebuild this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 9:59 AM, nedboy7 said: Just giving up on the team and trying to get that 11th pick. Get a grip. I'm not for trading McCoy unless he wants out. I'd be more inclined to call you an idiot. What do you expect out of this team? On 10/9/2018 at 12:51 PM, nedboy7 said: You give up on a 2-3 season? Pathetic. You ain’t a fan. I like that you get the highly esteemed position of determining who is a fan and who isn't. It's like a God complex, but for stupid people who aren't able to realize sports place in life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3u751k Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I think the Bills have a chance to prove that RBs can still rule the game, and they feed QBs the ball. Take our situation. Allen can dump off to these guys and no matter what they'll work out 3.5 yards a down. Force that down teams throats and you open up a lot. We need to keep all big name weapons out so they eat up defenders, make em pay if they don't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzReaper Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Yeah if they can get some touches in... I liked what I saw them do on that game winning drive myself idk about these trade McCoy guys. I'll be furious... Yup my phone would get smashed I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 McCoy has also been hurt, maybe we need to think about this more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3u751k Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hurt here, he'd be hurt there. He is loved in Buffalo, we can't give up on such a great contributor. They need to bring Ivory and Shady out more, bring the name-brand weapons out to spread the defenses. The point is these guys could keep moving the chains if you found ways to pepper them in as WRs and switch to RBs. Maybe I'm overblowing these guys talent, but have fun covering those 2 on play action or options or whatever theyre called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Thirty year olds RB's who aren't power RB's are about to enter football hospice. Get what you can for him while he's still valuable. I don't see us making a SB run this year or next. It's rebuild time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Thirty year olds RB's who aren't power RB's are about to enter football hospice. Get what you can for him while he's still valuable. I don't see us making a SB run this year or next. It's rebuild time. football hospice, I hate it when that happens Doc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Thirty year olds RB's who aren't power RB's are about to enter football hospice. Get what you can for him while he's still valuable. I don't see us making a SB run this year or next. It's rebuild time. This. And for me personally I find it hard to root for the guy. He's great on the field but off it I just don't like him. They're certainly a better team this year with him than without him. But this is a rebuild. Edited October 10, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 They're not a "force" and if someone is dumb enough to give us a second round pick we should take it in a min and stop worrying about scratching our way to 8-8 and just focus on one thing, developing Josh Allen to the best QB he can possibly be this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I would move Shady in a hot minute for a 2nd round pick. Ivory is a pounder and Murphy looked great in the preseason so the cupboard wouldn’t be bare. This is a rebuild. Shady is an older running back with a sizable cap hit. If I were Beane, I’d thank Shady for playing hard for this franchise, wish him all the best, and then grab that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I would move Shady in a hot minute for a 2nd round pick. Ivory is a pounder and Murphy looked great in the preseason so the cupboard wouldn’t be bare. This is a rebuild. Shady is an older running back with a sizable cap hit. If I were Beane, I’d thank Shady for playing hard for this franchise, wish him all the best, and then grab that pick. If they put it in his lap and said "we got an offer. You say yes or know and we will do it. We want you here but also want you to wear a ring. This is your chance. If he says yes send him. If he says no, dont. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I think if we wkn this weekend he stays and if not he’s traded. Then it repeats in Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 10:34 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: first rounder. For a first round pick I would gladly give up Shady and a 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 9:41 AM, Royale with Cheese said: Are you sure Murphy has been a healthy scratch? I believe he has a rib injury too. Yeah, pretty sure. I know he had the rib thing more recently but a couple of weeks ago he was a healthy scratch. He'd been struggling with pass protection, blitz pickup and had dropped a couple of passes as well. If they do trade Shady, I don't know that I'd be comfortable rolling with just Ivory and Murphy. I know they have Keith Ford on the practice squad but I didn't see too much from him in pre-season. I'd assume they'd snag a guy off a practice squad somewhere. 14 hours ago, Buffalo30 said: I doubt it happens but some offers can be hard to pass up as well. We will see if anything shakes out. Yeah, no doubt. I just think that even if they did bring Murphy back up, I'd still wanna bring in one more back just in case. They have Ford on the practice squad but if I'm them, I'd scan the waiver wire and other practice squads around the league to see what's around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3u751k Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) I hate all the talk of trading McCoy for a pick, it's quitter talk. It's like we're thinking the Bills are guaranteed to have better talent next year or in the near future. They aren't. I would keep letting McCoy be the star for Buffalo. It keeps the heat off a growing Allen and gives the chance for a pass game for the WRs. Edited October 10, 2018 by Toldyathe DroughtIsOver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, Toldyathe DroughtIsOver said: I hate all the talk of trading McCoy for a pick, it's quitter talk. It's like we're thinking the Bills are guaranteed to have better talent next year or in the near future. They aren't. I would keep letting McCoy be the star for Buffalo. It keeps the heat off a growing Allen and gives the chance for a pass game for the WRs. Exactly. This BS about quitting on a 2-3 that is learning how to win is just an extension of learning to accept losing for 17 years. Get that crap out of here. We are about to punch Houston in the mouth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 10:03 AM, nedboy7 said: Exactly. This BS about quitting on a 2-3 that is learning how to win is just an extension of learning to accept losing for 17 years. Get that crap out of here. We are about to punch Houston in the mouth! You've gotta be old. What are you? 50? 60? You believe in every tired cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 7:40 AM, the skycap said: Unless Shady is saying he wants to go back to Philly you simply don't trade your BEST player on offense, maybe on the team!! "I should have never gotten traded [from Philadelphia] anyway," McCoy said. "I was killing stuff, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 7:39 AM, Royale with Cheese said: We're 2-3 and the toughest part of our schedule is over with.... We don't know that. Some teams get better as the season goes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 10:45 PM, Ol Dirty B said: I'm not for trading McCoy unless he wants out. Sorry, but I could not disagree more. I don't care one iota what McCoy wants. This was the Marv Levy GM method of appeasement and ass kissing. Exactly the above, (along with other stupid beyond description moves) left this team in shambles. If you are against trading him, great! But I wouldn't let him call the shots. Not ever. Of course, jmo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said: Sorry, but I could not disagree more. I don't care one iota what McCoy wants. This was the Marv Levy GM method of appeasement and ass kissing. Exactly the above, along with other stupid beyond description moves) left this team in shambles. If you are against trading him, great! But I wouldn't let him call the shots. Not ever. Of course, jmo. Nailed it. If the value is right you trade him. It doesn’t make a difference if he wants to stay in Buffalo or go elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 1:51 PM, nedboy7 said: You give up on a 2-3 season? Pathetic. You ain’t a fan. I'm a fan that knows this team better than you. I'm a realist, not a dreamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) On 10/10/2018 at 5:52 AM, fansince88 said: If they put it in his lap and said "we got an offer. You say yes or know and we will do it. We want you here but also want you to wear a ring. This is your chance. If he says yes send him. If he says no, dont. Simple as that. Will he also have say over all personnel moves or will he only be calling the shots for himself? Edited October 13, 2018 by Starr Almighty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 8:58 AM, blacklabel said: Yeah, pretty sure. I know he had the rib thing more recently but a couple of weeks ago he was a healthy scratch. He was a healthy scratch in between two weeks when he was on report with a rib injury. I think it's a fair guess that he was hampered in some way in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 10:45 PM, Ol Dirty B said: I'm not for trading McCoy unless he wants out. I like Shady and he's been a good soldier here, but short of winning ya a Superbowl, I don't think a player gets to make that call. If it's in the best interests of the team, trade If it's not, don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) On 10/9/2018 at 4:01 PM, GunnerBill said: Eagles are not going to the playoffs this year. Half their players don't even look like they are trying. Got their money, got their ring, got their endorsements and playing at half speed. We'll see. Don't be gravedancing just yet. You could say the same for the Patriots for the past 5 years, 5 games in. Who's winning their division genius? Edited October 12, 2018 by YodaMan79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He was a healthy scratch in between two weeks when he was on report with a rib injury. I think it's a fair guess that he was hampered in some way in between. That's a fair assumption. He got some quickness and he's a little shifty. I'd draw up screens and wheel routes for him but definitely keep him off the field anytime a play is called that requires the back to block. He really struggles with that but I can't say I blame him. He's like, 5'10" 180 lbs trying to slow down 6'3" 240 linebackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, blacklabel said: That's a fair assumption. He got some quickness and he's a little shifty. I'd draw up screens and wheel routes for him but definitely keep him off the field anytime a play is called that requires the back to block. He really struggles with that but I can't say I blame him. He's like, 5'10" 180 lbs trying to slow down 6'3" 240 linebackers. Claims he's 5'9" 195. It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Claims he's 5'9" 195. It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog Until the dog plants his foot in a raised portion of artificial turf that has a large amount of rubber pellets that causes his tib/fib to shoot sideways and disrupt his MCL for a five week Rehab. Doggie needs PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Bills unlikely to trade McCoy per Rap Sheet. Just said on NFL Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Bills unlikely to trade LeSean McCoy to Eagles Even in the wake of an impressive win over the Giants on a national stage, the Eagles still have questions. Notably, are they going to be able to run the ball? Starter Jay Ajayi is out for the season, both Wendell Smallwood and Corey Clement averaged fewer than 4-yards per rush on Thursday, and general manager Howie Roseman has worked the phones in an attempt to find a running back. While one of those calls went to the Buffalo Bills, and the teams did discuss a possible trade for LeSean McCoy, there is a long way to go before a trade even becomes possible. One key source believes McCoy stays in Buffalo not just for this year, but also for the 2019 season. There was no talk of compensation during the conversation between the Bills and the Eagles this week, and the call was described as more feeling out than anything. But the belief is a trade for McCoy would be expensive, perhaps as much as the Seahawks were asking for Pro Bowler Earl Thomas before his injury. And the Eagles don't seem ready to pay a second-round pick and more for McCoy, even though they have two of them in the 2019 draft. They just don't want to trade him. They'll listen, all teams listen, but the Bills want to keep him. It will play out over the next few weeks how badly the Eagles want to push for him or potentially go in a different direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 10:14 PM, YodaMan79 said: We'll see. Don't be gravedancing just yet. You could say the same for the Patriots for the past 5 years, 5 games in. Who's winning their division genius? I think Dallas or Washington will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24992497/leveon-bell-not-expected-report-pittsburgh-steelers-week hmmmmm. Something is rotten in Pburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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