Dr.Sack Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I’d let him start next game weather permitting. Something tells me in a low wind crisp early season day he will have his best chance to prove himself. But remember it was similar conditions in LA last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 You never ever pulls the next Brady or Brees! What were the Bills thinking?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 He got his third start too early. He shouldn't even be in the league. Great guy, great teammate, crappy quarterback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaywrizzo Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Peterman tore it up in the preseason . And I saw in another thread that the sorry offensive performance was 0% his fault . Did he get pulled to early ? Dude.....ARE U SERIOUS????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Peterman tore it up in the preseason . And I saw in another thread that the sorry offensive performance was 0% his fault . Did he get pulled to early ? You must be joking. Look at his regular season performances. My god, the man has no arm. What does this staff see in him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 When you put aside the score and general flow of 60 minutes of football, and look at intangibles, it's, you know, all that matters from 50,000 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, VW82 said: I think the decision to pull him was warranted. He had happy feet back there and was starting to force things like he did against Chargers. Plus, because we were down by so much it was a nice, pressure free environment to get Allen some NFL reps. I'd give Peterman one more chance to prove he's an NFL QB. If he flames out again next week against the team that humiliated him last year, then I think you consider trading for a vet QB and cutting him. It's harsh, but he doesn't seem able to rebound when things don't go his way early. He had a rating of 0.0 today. that's down from 38 last season. What other proof that he is not an NFL quality QB are you looking for? Just curious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Peterman isn't good. He's never been "set up". If he was Tyrod you'd be killing him. You have some weird agenda ive seen the same from this one in the past. Different QBs completely. Similar agenda. Your intuition is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Peterman tore it up in the preseason . And I saw in another thread that the sorry offensive performance was 0% his fault . Did he get pulled to early ? No he sucked, the line sucked and the receivers sucked. Basically only Allen and McCoy are good with Dawkins ok. The offense needs a whole rebuild. Also not impressed with Star's ability either, but was getting turned sideways all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Better than pulling the peterman out too late! pulling peterman too late could have been a sticky situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The people who said this was a Tom Savage situation were exactly right. And if the pass blocking can stay decent they should let Allen start the whole year. Based on the rest of our team we'll still be in line for a high draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He had a rating of 0.0 today. that's down from 38 last season. What other proof that he is not an NFL quality QB are you looking for? Just curious. Yeah I agree it's a long shot at best he's even an NFL back up at this point but throwing Allen to the wolves when he clearly isn't ready either is a terrible plan. Bills have just invested too much in this kid to needlessly ruin him like that. McBeane have really F'd this up IMO. I'd start Peterman vs. Chargers as the lesser of two evils. When he inevitably fails, you bring Allen in again to play second half. Depending how that goes maybe you consider starting him week 3. Personally, I'd be looking for a QB in a trade who can finish out the year. I don't think Allen will be the guy either - trying to teach a kid how to play the position when he's never proven capable at any of the lower levels rarely works - but if he's going to become a capable player it'll be because they brought him along at the right pace, and didn't destroy his confidence early. That kid needs patience as much as anything. Edited September 9, 2018 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Peterman tore it up in the preseason . And I saw in another thread that the sorry offensive performance was 0% his fault . Did he get pulled to early ? He was just getting started! LOLOLOLOLOLOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Or did the Bills trade McCarron too soon ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, klos63 said: You must be joking. Look at his regular season performances. My god, the man has no arm. What does this staff see in him? 13 minutes ago, Jaywrizzo said: Dude.....ARE U SERIOUS????? Yes . I am . Just look at our huge thread comparing Peterman to Brees and the epic Ravens game starter thread . Peterman is a futur HOFer . Let him take his licks Edited September 9, 2018 by prissythecat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Peterman tore it up in the preseason . And I saw in another thread that the sorry offensive performance was 0% his fault . Did he get pulled to early ? What the... 31 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Peterman tore it up in the preseason . And I saw in another thread that the sorry offensive performance was 0% his fault . Did he get pulled too early ? Well... maybe... nope, didn’t make any more sense than the first time you posted it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 No his dad pulled too late. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, VW82 said: Yeah I agree it's a long shot at best he's even an NFL back up at this point but throwing Allen to the wolves when he clearly isn't ready either is a terrible plan. Bills have just invested too much in this kid to needlessly ruin him like that. McBeane have really F'd this up IMO. I'd start Peterman vs. Chargers. When he inevitably fails, you bring Allen in again to play second half. Depending how that goes maybe you consider starting him week 3. Personally, I'd be looking for a QB in a trade who can finish out the year. I don't think Allen will be the guy either - trying to teach a kid how to play the position when he's never proven capable at any of the lower levels rarely works - but if he's going to become a capable player it'll be because they brought him along at the right pace, and didn't destroy his confidence early. That kid needs patience as much as anything. No he doesn't. Put him in next week. It's what he was drafted for. This team won't play for NP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, VW82 said: Yeah I agree it's a long shot at best he's even an NFL back up at this point but throwing Allen to the wolves when he clearly isn't ready either is a terrible plan. Bills have just invested too much in this kid to needlessly ruin him like that. McBeane have really F'd this up IMO. I'd start Peterman vs. Chargers. When he inevitably fails, you bring Allen in again to play second half. Depending how that goes maybe you consider starting him week 3. Personally, I'd be looking for a QB in a trade who can finish out the year. I don't think Allen will be the guy either - trying to teach a kid how to play the position when he's never proven capable at any of the lower levels rarely works - but if he's going to become a capable player it'll be because they brought him along at the right pace, and didn't destroy his confidence early. That kid needs patience as much as anything. How do you get a QB now? We had Mccarron, seemed pretty crazy to count on Peterman and trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Process said: He was just getting started! LOLOLOLOLOLOL Agree... He had at least 2 -10 more int's potential! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, transient said: What the... Well... maybe... nope, didn’t make any more sense than the first time you posted it. That was a double post mistake due to using a phone ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Yes . I am . Just look at our huge thread comparing Peterman to Brees and the epic Ravens game starter thread . Peterman is a futur HOFer . Let him take his Picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: No his dad pulled too late. Post of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Peterman's play left McDermott with no choice but to pull him. That was pretty bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) The snow game didn't show skills of any player in it because of the conditions. The mop up duty against the Saints doesn't really mean much (the same that Josh today really doesn't mean all that much, although they can showcase skills). The three times NP has played that meant anything were the Chargers game last year, the playoff game where his short stint showed the lack of arm strength on the INT, and today. Two of the three times were amongst the worst in NFL history. That looks like a possible trend. Edited September 9, 2018 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: How do you get a QB now? We had Mccarron, seemed pretty crazy to count on Peterman and trade him. We're going to have to trade for one. It's either that or you tell your team you're throwing away the season. They know Josh isn't remotely close to ready. He even came out and said after his preseason start that he wasn't ready. If they start him over this upcoming murderer's row of games they'll ruin him, and lose the team at the same time. The Peterman decision (coupled with the decision to trade Tyrold and not to pursue a capable veteran in the offseason; clearly McCarron didn't cut it) is a sunk cost at this point. It's worth a second round pick to not wreck your rookie QB before he's ready and completely lose the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 After what I saw in preseason, I thought Nathan Peterman deserved the starting job. And I was slightly optimistic he was going to take a significant step forward from the disastrous play as a rookie. One of the things that I liked about Peterman during the preseason was his quick decision-making and release. With our O-Line struggling so bad, I figured this would be extremely beneficial to the offense. But with the real bullets flying at him today, it very much seemed (early in the game) that Peterman was holding the ball WAY too long. I just have to wonder if this is a mental byproduct of his 5-INT game against the Chargers last year. Some players look strong and confident in practice or preseason. But on gameday, they become hesitant, scared and overly careful. As the game progressed and Peterman had no choice but to finally push the ball downfield, he made very poor decisions and was extremely inaccurate. The guy offers virtually no upside as a quarterback. His arm strength is poor for an NFL passer. He struggles with anything over 10-15 yards. Any kind of outside timing route floats in the air, just begging for an interception. His athleticism is average, meaning he can't extend plays or make defenses respect his scrambling ability. For someone with his skill-set to be successful, he will need to be exceptionally accurate, extremely quick at getting the ball out and flawless in his decision-making. What we've seen instead (at least so far) is a guy who holds the ball too long in the pocket, who forces the ball into places he shouldn't and who has very spotty accuracy. Unless the coaching staff is scared Josh Allen will develop bad habits playing behind this O-Line, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't make the QB change in Week 2. And quite honestly, I wouldn't blink if they decided to cut Peterman and sign a real/experienced veteran either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: The snow game didn't show skills of any player in it because of the conditions. The mop up duty against the Saints doesn't really mean much (the same that Josh today really doesn't mean all that much, although they can showcase skills). The three times NP has played that meanest anything were the Chargers game last year, the playoff game where his short stint showed the lack of arm strength on the INT, and today. Two of the three times were amongst the worst in NFL history. That looks like a possible trend. Possible trend? Me thinks thou doest equivocate too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The only way Peterman got pulled too early is if he starts next week and him staying in longer today would of given more opportunities to dissuade them of that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I’m glad they started and left him in, just so now the idiots whom supported him after his first flop can finally see he’s ducking horrible. Easily the worst QB to ever play in the NFL. Couldn’t hold a male cheerleader’s jock. As I called it, he was merely a sacrificial lamb. I’m sure the brainstrust foresaw this as I did however I’m sure they didn’t think he’d blow it that bad that quick. If it were 10-0 with the same shtit performance he’d be pulled still and Allen would’ve had a better shot at doing something. Regardless, stick yet another fork in Peterman. Dude was DOA, and the preseason was the only lifeline he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Billznut Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I feel like some of us are owed an apology. We said that Peterman sucked. We took some heat. We were right. Everyone wanted him to do well. We just didn’t all expect it. I for one am happy that we can put this garbage behind us. I bet it won’t be Peterman’s last start as a Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Peterman tore it up in the preseason . And I saw in another thread that the sorry offensive performance was 0% his fault . Did he get pulled to early ? 0 TD, 7 INT in a couple starts. I dont give a SHT what he does in preseason. Too early???!! Stop talkin... Better yet. Just quit this forum... Edited September 9, 2018 by QuoteTheRaven83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, klos63 said: How do you get a QB now? We had Mccarron, seemed pretty crazy to count on Peterman and trade him. They won’t. McBeane misjudged their qb’s. They will deserve every bit of national media crap they will hear the next 16 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5-18 for 24 yards with 0 TDs and 2 INTs for a QB rating of 0.0 56 yards looks pretty good in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Defense put this team in a hole to start the game which forced Peterman to make some plays which he couldn’t. The formula for this team is the same as when Tyrod was the QB. Establish the run, play good defense and get a few clutch plays from the offense. Peterman is not going to carry this team on his back just like Tyrod couldn’t. Same thing goes for Josh Allen while he develops into what we hope is a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Billznut said: They won’t. McBeane misjudged their qb’s. They will deserve every bit of national media crap they will hear the next 16 weeks. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I am not sure I want the true Rookie getting killed behind his line. I don’t want Peterman to get killed either but he is not the future. (Doh) Not having a vet of any kind at QB is perplexing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, iinii said: I am not sure I want the true Rookie getting killed behind his line. I don’t want Peterman to get killed either but he is not the future. (Doh) Not having a vet of any kind at QB is perplexing. Try watching the game with your eyes open. Josh Allen was FAR superior to Peterman, and I thought Allen played OK. I'd rate his play a 6 out of 10 considering he probably didn't get enough reps in practice. Peterman, i would've gave him a -100 in a scale of 1-10. And IMO that's being generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginald Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Peterman has brain freeze. can't improvise, not a gamer, has no feel shows no emotion no leadership has a dull stare is like a golfer who's looks good on the driving range, but sucks playing 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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