LeSean McCoy allegations

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I could easily imagine Shady dumb enough to tell someone he knew to go over and get the jewelry and not much more (like he probably didn't say beat her up if you have to).

 

I could just as easily imagine Shady complaining the girl is in his house and has this jewelry worth $10K and he's never there and just some joker hearing that and taking it upon himself to just go and get it from a girl in a big house by herself that doesn't deserve it.

 

I could just as easily imagine the girl mouthing off in a bar about !@#$ Shady and he gave me this 10K diamond brooch (I'm just making up the number) and I ain't giving it back and somebody hears her or her gf tells other people and some ass who knows where Shady lives just decides it's an easy $10K grab.

 

All of those and more are equally plausible in my mind.

 

 

Didn't she just get back from London or something?  

[The Red King]

2 minutes ago, Mickey said:

 

Is there a single witness, credible or not, who is claiming that is what happened? Seriously, did I miss a key post 35 pages back?

 

Nobody is claiming anything.  But are you going to tell me that's not a possibility?  With absolutely no hard evidence against McCoy, you're already declaring him guilty, and anybody who disagrees wanting actual evidence before deciding one way or the other are somehow foolish?

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I could easily imagine Shady dumb enough to tell someone he knew to go over and get the jewelry and not much more (like he probably didn't say beat her up if you have to).

 

I could just as easily imagine Shady complaining the girl is in his house and has this jewelry worth $10K and he's never there and just some joker hearing that and taking it upon himself to just go and get it from a girl in a big house by herself that doesn't deserve it.

 

I could just as easily imagine the girl mouthing off in a bar about !@#$ Shady and he gave me this 10K diamond brooch (I'm just making up the number) and I ain't giving it back and somebody hears her or her gf tells other people and some ass who knows where Shady lives just decides it's an easy $10K grab.

 

All of those and more are equally plausible in my mind.

 

Or any of those, compounded by her being in London yesterday, and whoever went over not expecting her to be back that night.

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Has anyone checked on OJ's whereabouts? He is supposed to stay in Nevada but you never know.

[DC Tom]

5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

If there's no connection to the attack on the ex, there would be a serious battle with the NFLPA. 

 

And I'm sure Goodell is just shaking in his Berlutis, thinking of going to the mattresses with the gloriously incompetent NFLPA.  

 

Player discipline will be a huge issue next time they renegotiate it, after what Goodell's done.  But for now, he's got the NFLPA by the short 'n' curlies.

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Mickey said:

 

How has she behaved? Lets see, are there no examples of men beating their exes or having them beat? Why is it so likely that some sort of crazy conspiracy was cooked up as opposed to the garden variety, see it every damn day, guy beats ex girl friend domestic violence stuff?

Well, she won’t leave a house that isn’t hers without a court order. Tells you something right there. Fwiw it doesn’t appear McCoy was in the area so that guy didn’t beat his ex gf. It’s always different than garden variety when someone with millions of $$ is allegedly involved. 

[Elite Poster]

The easiest course of action is to wait for the facts.

 

We do this all the time. We form opinions, bicker for 70 pages, then the next day when the facts come out the tune changes.

 

If he ends up being guilty I hope the Pegs fund a jersey exchange.

Edited July 11, 2018 by Elite Poster

[KennyDavisEyes]

4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I could easily imagine Shady dumb enough to tell someone he knew to go over and get the jewelry and not much more (like he probably didn't say beat her up if you have to).

 

I could just as easily imagine Shady complaining the girl is in his house and has this jewelry worth $10K and he's never there and just some joker hearing that and taking it upon himself to just go and get it from a girl in a big house by herself that doesn't deserve it.

 

I could just as easily imagine the girl mouthing off in a bar about !@#$ Shady and he gave me this 10K diamond brooch (I'm just making up the number) and I ain't giving it back and somebody hears her or her gf tells other people and some ass who knows where Shady lives just decides it's an easy $10K grab.

 

All of those and more are equally plausible in my mind.

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[first_and_ten]

Why not wait till the facts come out? Hopefully the police will get to the bottom of this. As a former member of the law enforcement community, I trust that they will find the truth. Until then, he is innocent until proven guilty.

Edited July 11, 2018 by first_and_ten

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

 

Really? Hey mom, thanks for the help, but he wouldn’t do it because there were a couple kids there? But you know, if they were off at a sleep over, hell yeah! Let’s put a beat down on her if no kids are around! Thanks for the help mom, but please SHUT UP! 

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The items are contested, but he asked for items returned. The items might have be specified in court transcripts, verbally by his lawyer, and the journalists who report on this stuff usually check that stuff. Drop the sleuthing, please. Its a waste of time. I'm not going to the court house to pull the transcripts just to appease your suspicions.

[Lurker]

2 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said:

Ok. Stop the troll. The doc says return items in his handwriting. That is what was talking about.

 

Quite a leap in logic there, McRuff   Things removed from the premises = jewlery.   

 

Who knew...

 

 

[Mickey]

Just now, The Red King said:

 

Nobody is claiming anything.  But are you going to tell me that's not a possibility?  With absolutely no hard evidence against McCoy, you're already declaring him guilty, and anybody who disagrees wanting actual evidence before deciding one way or the other are somehow foolish?

I haven't declared him guilty, but neither am I entertaining wild "possibilities" with no proof. And there is "hard evidence": two witnesses not to mention a pretty serious beating. He may be innocent still but what is the point of entertaining far fetched theories of guilt on her part? 

[DC Tom]

7 minutes ago, Mickey said:

 

Is there a single witness, credible or not, who is claiming that is what happened? Seriously, did I miss a key post 35 pages back?

 

No...but there's also not a shred of evidence to refute it.  

 

The actual facts we have are thin as hell.  Anyone who's not a total knucklehead like WEO can come up with at least twenty plausible theories of the crime, which may or may not involve McCoy.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, MURPHD6 said:

The items are contested, but he asked for items returned. The items might have be specified in court transcripts, verbally by his lawyer, and the journalists who report on this stuff usually check that stuff. Drop the sleuthing, please. Its a waste of time. I'm not going to the court house to pull the transcripts just to appease your suspicions.

 

There was no lawyer nor any transcript. It's a document to begin the eviction process. 

[Ol Dirty B]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Didn't she just get back from London or something?  

 

That's the only detail in this story that makes me think shady is involved.

 

I just didn't think he'd be that dumb. He is a character, but he's never struck me as just that stupid. Just go through the process and it will all get cleared up. Hes young with a bunch of money, just have patience as frustrating it may be at times. But situations like these make people act irrationally. 

 

It's just crazy to me, I'm a year younger than him and busting my ass to get ahead. I couldn't imagine throwing all of what he has away. 

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

The easiest course of action is to wait for the facts.

 

 

But the most emotionally satisfying is to jump to the conclusion that most validates your moral outrage.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Well, then...it's pretty clear you don't know **** about it, then.  I even explained why it happened, and how it's similar, and you're willfully choosing to be ignorant in the interests of reinforcing your self-identity as a holier-than-thou dumbass.

 

Why am I not surprised.  I really could have predicted that, had I given you any thought at all.

 

 

You mentioned women faking injury for gain.  This isn't a faked injury.

 

You mentioned Munchausen by proxy.  That's a form of child abuse.  (the "by proxy") part.

 

This is several orders of magnitude beyond what you were using as (poor) examples.  This typeof self mutilation would not be performed with a sound state of mind (a scheme--which she just thought up as she got back into town that night?).

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No...but there's also not a shred of evidence to refute it.  

 

The actual facts we have are thin as hell.  Anyone who's not a total knucklehead like WEO can come up with at least twenty plausible theories of the crime, which may or may not involve McCoy.

 

I'm only attacking the least plausible one.  Try to keep up.

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7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

There was no lawyer nor any transcript. It's a document to begin the eviction process. 

They exist, usually. The reports could be false, I guess, but local reporters can get access to that stuff. They don't post it online, usually. AND no, I'm not going to the court myself to check the transcript if there is one. Your making some pretty grand leaps of faith here: the very fact that he asked for the return of items in court will likely be admissable as evidence, and that makes it harder for him to deny any knowledge or connection to a break in. That is the point. Good day.

Edited July 11, 2018 by MURPHD6

[DC Tom]

Just now, Ol Dirty B said:

 

That's the only detail in this story that makes me think shady is involved.

 

I just didn't think he'd be that dumb. He is a character, but he's never struck me as just that stupid. Just go through the process and it will all get cleared up. Hes young with a bunch of money, just have patience as frustrating it may be at times. But situations like these make people act irrationally. 

 

It's just crazy to me, I'm a year younger than him and busting my ass to get ahead. I couldn't imagine throwing all of what he has away. 

 

That's the detail that makes me think he isn't.  The person living in his home is in London...and he sends someone there to retrieve property the night she gets back?

 

I mean...I can't rule it out, because PDCS (people do crazy ****).  But that's "leaving a gum wrapper at the murder scene" Aaron Hernandez level stupid.

[Uncle Joe]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

There was no lawyer nor any transcript. It's a document to begin the eviction process. 

Filed by a buddy, not a lawyer.

[Mickey]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

No...but there's also not a shred of evidence to refute it.  

 

The actual facts we have are thin as hell.  Anyone who's not a total knucklehead like WEO can come up with at least twenty plausible theories of the crime, which may or may not involve McCoy.

 

As to the "possibility" that they staged a beating, in fact, there are several threads of evidence. Two witnesses, or don't witnesses count? Of course there are possibilities that would exonerate McCoy but there is zero evidence that this woman staged this and some evidence that she did not. 

[Lfod]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

But the most emotionally satisfying is to jump to the conclusion that most validates your moral outrage.

I actually like to speculate on what information is offered. It's like jumping to many conclusions without settling on anything. At this point there are some missing links in the story. 

Edited July 11, 2018 by Lfod

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

No...but there's also not a shred of evidence to refute it.  

 

The actual facts we have are thin as hell.  Anyone who's not a total knucklehead like WEO can come up with at least twenty plausible theories of the crime, which may or may not involve McCoy.

 

When someone reports having been beaten up in their house, and is pretty messed up, it is not normally a plausible extheory to start with that they beat themselves up. I am not saying that no one ever beats themselves up. Just the other day I watched a guy do it on LivePD. But what I am saying is, that "she beat herself up" is not a "plausible" theory that needs to be refuted. That it was "not caused by LeSean McCoy" is a very plausible theory. "She beat herself up" is an "unlikely" theory that should only be adeed to the mix if some evidence supports it. Otherwise, I could add "she was attacked by a black bear with mange" to the list of "plausible" theories, right?

[26CornerBlitz]

4 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said:

They exist, usually. The reports could be false, I guess. But your making some pretty grand leaps of faith here.

 

There was supposed to be a hearing today, but the matter has been postponed until August 14th.   No transcript exsists. The leaps are being made by you when the matter has not begun yet. 

Edited July 11, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[The Red King]

My current financial situation is tight.  If someone offered me $5000 cash to beat the crap out of me, I'd likely consider it.  Self-inflicted doesn't mean she did them to herself directly.  She could have easily staged it, and had someone else beat her so she could frame McCoy.  Am I saying this is what happend?  No. But it's plausible, and that's the point.  We need some actual evidence.

[KD in CA]

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but these are dumb, selfish, narcissistic people we’re talking about.  That means there is a wide range of seedy characters who knew this girl had tapped into a goldmine.  She probably posted pics all over the web of herself with the expensive ‘bling’. 

 

Maybe McCoy did arrange it, but I think it’s at least as likely someone just saw this as an easy score.

 

Remember Sean Taylor?  He died cause some local thugs knew he had bucks.

Edited July 11, 2018 by KD in CA

[Kelly the Dog]

I read and saw "The Lincoln Lawyer" and this idea that the girl beat herself up was the main defense by the client of the star of the movie, Matthew MacConaughey, who won the case, so it's entirely possible.

 

Sure his client was lying and actually did beat the **** out of the girl but that's not the point.

 

Sort of.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, Mickey said:

 

As to the "possibility" that they staged a beating, in fact, there are several threads of evidence. Two witnesses, or don't witnesses count? Of course there are possibilities that would exonerate McCoy but there is zero evidence that this woman staged this and some evidence that she did not. 

 

Possible. Hell, there has been girls lied or she could of been hurt without McCoy or even sent anyone.  Thats in the wrong to accuse people without anything. 

 

 

 

Could be a power play she using even when hurt. I feel sorry for her (if not staged or anything) but don't blame others until have proof of it.

Edited July 11, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Mickey said:

 

As to the "possibility" that they staged a beating, in fact, there are several threads of evidence. Two witnesses, or don't witnesses count? Of course there are possibilities that would exonerate McCoy but there is zero evidence that this woman staged this and some evidence that she did not. 

 

I've flown back from London many times and as soon as I get I sometimes feel like really pissing someone so I pound my face into hamburger.

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

You mentioned women faking injury for gain.  This isn't a faked injury.

 

You mentioned Munchausen by proxy.  That's a form of child abuse.  (the "by proxy") part.

 

This is several orders of magnitude beyond what you were using as (poor) examples.  This typeof self mutilation would not be performed with a sound state of mind (a scheme--which she just thought up as she got back into town that night?).

 

I'm only attacking the least plausible one.  Try to keep up.

 

You're a !@#$ing idiot.  

 

And I've seen faked injuries this bad, or worse.  Compound fracture of the radius and ulna?

 

People do strange, crazy things to maintain their sense of themselves...including faking a brutal beating to maintain their identity as a victim, getting medical help for the kids the abuse to maintain their identity as a caring mom, and arguing **** you know nothing about to maintain your identity as a self-righteous anal orifice.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, The Red King said:

My current financial situation is tight.  If someone offered me $5000 cash to beat the crap out of me, I'd likely consider it.  Self-inflicted doesn't mean she did them to herself directly.  She could have easily staged it, and had someone else beat her so she could frame McCoy.  Am I saying this is what happend?  No. But it's plausible, and that's the point.  We need some actual evidence.

 

 

Yes, it really does.

[Mickey]

2 minutes ago, The Red King said:

My current financial situation is tight.  If someone offered me $5000 cash to beat the crap out of me, I'd likely consider it.  Self-inflicted doesn't mean she did them to herself directly.  She could have easily staged it, and had someone else beat her so she could frame McCoy.  Am I saying this is what happend?  No. But it's plausible, and that's the point.  We need some actual evidence.

 

You could be a idiot, am I saying you are an idiot, of course not, I am just saying its plausible.

[Ol Dirty B]

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

That's the detail that makes me think he isn't.  The person living in his home is in London...and he sends someone there to retrieve property the night she gets back?

 

I mean...I can't rule it out, because PDCS (people do crazy ****).  But that's "leaving a gum wrapper at the murder scene" Aaron Hernandez level stupid.

 

Well the only property I've seen rumored in the dispute and the police report was jewelry. And that she has bruising on her wrists from someone trying to take it off her.

 

If it was furniture or something I'd completely agree with your point. But if we're talking rings, necklaces, and bracelets. It's hard to get that without her being in town usually.

 

Granted that's all just hearsay at this point.

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, Mickey said:

 

As to the "possibility" that they staged a beating, in fact, there are several threads of evidence. Two witnesses, or don't witnesses count? Of course there are possibilities that would exonerate McCoy but there is zero evidence that this woman staged this and some evidence that she did not. 

 

No, witnesses don't count.  Because if it were staged, they would then be "conspirators."

 

(That's above and beyond witnesses not counting because people are idiots.  And I should note: I do not believe this was staged.  I simply know it could have been.)

[The Red King]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Yes, it really does.

 

Whelp, then let's just change all instances of "self-inflicted" to "arranged to have do her herself".  Doesn't change the plausibility of it in the least.  Now you discuss the point rather then quibble over wordplay.

1 minute ago, Mickey said:

 

You could be a idiot, am I saying you are an idiot, of course not, I am just saying its plausible.

 

Entirely plausible, and just like the victim, supported with absolutely no hard facts.  Hell, you just proved my point for me.  Thanks!

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, fridge said:

 

Look man, we're all Bills fans.  I like shady and want this to go away if he didn't do it just as much as anyone...

 

...but what's the point in calling her out the way that you are? One of the few facts that we do know is that she was beaten. I see no reason to jump so far ahead as to blame the victim, and I especially don't see why I would do that just because she's an instagram model (I don't understand why that's for shame btw - looks like it got her the opportunity to date an NFL star and go on fancy trips across the country...).

Look, I don’t care if we’re Bills fans or not. Doesn’t matter one bit. I’d think the same thing if he were on the Eagles. This is classic side chick $h**.  She clearly has no scruples if she won’t leave the house and by her friend’s allegations she was okay dating a hideous dog beating ped ingesting deadbeat creep if he paid her way. Blaming the victim ? Perhaps that’s PC jargon , but while everyone is rushing to judge McCoy ( who initiated a legal proceeding against this upstanding person) it doesn’t appear this is a squeaky clean individual alleging these things. Not calling anyone out, just raising the distinct possibility there is more than one “ shady” type involved here. Good for her, but her fling with McCoy ended so most normal people would just move on. We don’t know a lot here. You do as you see fit and I will as well. All speculation right now. 

[first_and_ten]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

You're a !@#$ing idiot.  

 

And I've seen faked injuries this bad, or worse.  Compound fracture of the radius and ulna?

 

People do strange, crazy things to maintain their sense of themselves...including faking a brutal beating to maintain their identity as a victim, getting medical help for the kids the abuse to maintain their identity as a caring mom, and arguing **** you know nothing about to maintain your identity as a self-righteous anal orifice.

 

What a surprise. DC Tom calling someone names. I'm shocked!!

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21 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

Filed by a buddy, not a lawyer.

I don't know and I suspect that you don't know either. And I'm not about to take the internets word for it. Either way these things can be checked out. Having a friend file an eviction notice and not your lawyer when you are a millionaire sounds a bit off and silly, but it could have happened. What's specified could matter in court, but all he needs is charges filed and he's likely gone. And if that is in fact the document the return of items sentence could be enough to charge him. 

And thats the red flag, because you don't usually ask for items to be returned on an eviction notice. And thats the point that all the reporters are making. Most landlords don't include items when they rent a place, and theft is usually covered by security deposits if the place is furnished.

ITS A HARD FACT, dispute it all you want. It would not have been reported if it wasn't so.

Edited July 11, 2018 by MURPHD6

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

You're a !@#$ing idiot.  

 

And I've seen faked injuries this bad, or worse.  Compound fracture of the radius and ulna?

 

People do strange, crazy things to maintain their sense of themselves...including faking a brutal beating to maintain their identity as a victim, getting medical help for the kids the abuse to maintain their identity as a caring mom, and arguing **** you know nothing about to maintain your identity as a self-righteous anal orifice.

 

I'm not denying that people harm themselves.  I've treated many such patients.

 

I'm saying tossing this out there as an as likely scenario (as has been posted here, is silly.

 

Also, are you saying that the images are faked and that the hospital staff assisted in the propagation of or could not recognize fake injuries?

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No, witnesses don't count.  Because if it were staged, they would then be "conspirators."

 

(That's above and beyond witnesses not counting because people are idiots.  And I should note: I do not believe this was staged.  I simply know it could have been.)

 

 

Again, I'm not arguing that it is not possible, but really less likely.

 

I could be wrong.