Augie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm not denying that people harm themselves. I've treated many such patients. I'm saying tossing this out there as an as likely scenario (as has been posted here, is silly. Also, are you saying that the images are faked and that the hospital staff assisted in the propagation of or could not recognize fake injuries? The moon landing is still in question, so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Augie said: The moon landing is still in question, so..... Sammy Watkins is a Flat Earther... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Augie said: The moon landing is still in question, so..... So is Obama's birth certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Umm, I’m kidding, and it just goes to show how ridiculous this is that I have to mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I read and saw "The Lincoln Lawyer" and this idea that the girl beat herself up was the main defense by the client of the star of the movie, Matthew MacConaughey, who won the case, so it's entirely possible. Sure his client was lying and actually did beat the **** out of the girl but that's not the point. Sort of. Is that the one where Edward Norton killed the priest then turned into Hannibal Lechter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Lurker said: At least you got that right... https://heavy.com/sports/2018/07/lesean-mccoy-delicia-cordon-home-court-documents/ Having read the court document from her attorney, I think it's clear that shady is incredibly petty. A couple key points... Quote The last time that the Defendant CORDON spoke to the Plaintiff was on the morning on June 1, 2018, when Plaintiff said that he was going to meet Defendant CORDON in Virginia to attend Defendant CORDON’s sister ’s graduation. ... The police halted the removal of Defendant CORDON’s furniture and furnishings from the home on June 1, 2018. Plaintiff also has the electricity turned off at the residence. 1. According to his ex, McCoy never broke it off, he just stopped communicating (this is provable, and seems like a weird thing to lie about... not a good look for shady) 2. According to his ex, McCoy had not asked her to move out (this... seems wrong, and what you might say if you're squatting...but that's what she's alleging) 3. According to his ex, McCoy hired movers to remove her stuff (again, bizarre that he did so without telling her to move out...allegedly) 4. According to his ex, McCoy turned off the electricity, despite her living there with her kids A few of those details, especially the bit about turning off her electricity, seem incredibly petty but not outside of the realm of an attempt to evict. The part that is most tricky to me is how it all started so suddenly and how little communication she alleges that she had with McCoy. McCoy's lack of empathy to the ex is a notable fact of the "case", and I feel like a clear motive is easily provable. I think it's entirely possible that McCoy could be responsible for sending someone to the house, but it seems unlikely he would've have left an obvious trail of communication. As of tonight there has been no evidence released that suggests McCoy is at all involved, and I think that conjecture from the original instagram post and the lack of empathy in this story overall could lead to a suspension as an investigation digs a little deeper. It does seem though, that apart from tying him to the beating/robbing, there would be any reason to assume any criminal charges will come about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Is that the one where Edward Norton killed the priest then turned into Hannibal Lechter? Primal Fear was a good movie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Red King said: Whelp, then let's just change all instances of "self-inflicted" to "arranged to have do her herself". Doesn't change the plausibility of it in the least. Now you discuss the point rather then quibble over wordplay. Entirely plausible, and just like the victim, supported with absolutely no hard facts. Hell, you just proved my point for me. Thanks! Surrendering your face to the fist of another, whether you are consenting or not, is not the same as you actually damaging yourself to that degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augie said: The moon landing is still in question, so..... Much like the Kennedy assassination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: I don't know and I suspect that you don't know either. And I'm not about to take the internets word for it. It was in the document. It was his buddy from the Philly incident who filed. Edited July 11, 2018 by Uncle Joe add snip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Misterbluesky said: Much like the Kennedy assassination. Didn't Kramer do that with Keith Hernandez? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Misterbluesky said: Much like the Kennedy assassination. No, I’m pretty sue he’s DEAD! For real! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Not sure how much empathy someone should have for an ex that they’ve had to take to court to evict. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: I don't know and I suspect that you don't know either. And I'm not about to take the internets word for it. Either way these things can be checked out. Having a friend file an eviction notice and not your lawyer when you are a millionaire sounds a bit off and silly, but it could have happened. What's specified could matter in court, but all he needs is charges filed and he's likely gone. And if that is in fact the document the return of items sentence could be enough to charge him. Not true at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: I don't know and I suspect that you don't know either. And I'm not about to take the internets word for it. It says right on the eviction request affidavit (and the GF's lawyer also attests to this in her motion) that it was filed byTamarcus Porter, who happens to be a friend of McCoy's... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: Primal Fear was a good movie The one where Robert DeNiro was a pedophile after Juliette Roberts? Sick IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: Well the only property I've seen rumored in the dispute and the police report was jewelry. And that she has bruising on her wrists from someone trying to take it off her. If it was furniture or something I'd completely agree with your point. But if we're talking rings, necklaces, and bracelets. It's hard to get that without her being in town usually. Granted that's all just hearsay at this point. Not everyone wears all their jewelry all the time. Particularly expensive gifts. Most of these observations I make are not to say to people "You're wrong," but to point out "You're making assumptions, and in doing so discarding other plausible theories." Why would you assume she'd wear jewelry gifted to her, worth five figures, on a jaunt to London? For that matter...why the hell was she wearing it at 3:30 in the morning? Who wears expensive bracelets while they're sleeping? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, fridge said: Having read the court document from her attorney, I think it's clear that shady is incredibly petty. A couple key points... 1. According to his ex, McCoy never broke it off, he just stopped communicating (this is provable, and seems like a weird thing to lie about... not a good look for shady) 2. According to his ex, McCoy had not asked her to move out (this... seems wrong, and what you might say if you're squatting...but that's what she's alleging) 3. According to his ex, McCoy hired movers to remove her stuff (again, bizarre that he did so without telling her to move out...allegedly) 4. According to his ex, McCoy turned off the electricity, despite her living there with her kids A few of those details, especially the bit about turning off her electricity, seem incredibly petty but not outside of the realm of an attempt to evict. The part that is most tricky to me is how it all started so suddenly and how little communication she alleges that she had with McCoy. McCoy's lack of empathy to the ex is a notable fact of the "case", and I feel like a clear motive is easily provable. I think it's entirely possible that McCoy could be responsible for sending someone to the house, but it seems unlikely he would've have left an obvious trail of communication. As of tonight there has been no evidence released that suggests McCoy is at all involved, and I think that conjecture from the original instagram post and the lack of empathy in this story overall could lead to a suspension as an investigation digs a little deeper. It does seem though, that apart from tying him to the beating/robbing, there would be any reason to assume any criminal charges will come about. So...the attorney of a woman being evicted by McCoy painted McCoy as a bad guy? No big shock there. That's part of their job. When you cherry pick things and put a spin on as harsh as a washing machine you can make a saint look like Satan, and lawyers are the best at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not true at all. Completely untrue. Again it's "she said" because she obviously knows what Shady wants returned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: The one where Robert DeNiro was a pedophile after Juliette Roberts? Sick IMO. Cape Fear was also good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Not sure how much empathy someone should have for an ex that they’ve had to take to court to evict. It goes to show how foolish these guys are to have more than a few key people surrounding them. THIS is how guys make gazillions and still wind up broke. I hope Shady is generally smarter than that. Funding all the “hangers on” is bad business and a bad decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: It was in the document. It was his buddy from the Philly incident who filed. What Philly incident...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You don't consider a person doing that type of damage to themselves, by far, the LEAST likely of the three? Audio? There was a case a while back where a guy killed his family and had his friend shoot him so he would look like a victim. There was another case where a woman accused her husband of beating her and had the bruises to prove it until video surfaced of her inflicting her own wounds. These cases are rare, but they do happen. With how little we know about this case, and how odd what we do know is, no decent person would be quick to jump to conclusions. FTR, I don't find it much harder to believe that someone would take a beating like that if they thought they'd get millions of dollars than to believe a multi-millionaire celebrity would risk everything for some jewelry and an expedited eviction. Both are pretty bizarre. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: What Philly incident...? The bar room brawl . Him and his buddies against some off duty cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, first_and_ten said: The bar room brawl . Him and his buddies against some off duty cops Kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: What Philly incident...? Run for Philadelphia DA and re-open the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Not sure how much empathy someone should have for an ex that they’ve had to take to court to evict. The best choice for her was to move on. Then again I wasn't her having kids and probably living in a nice house surrounded by comfort. So in a way it's like yea, you were just a girlfriend but he let her move in and gave her the wife treatment no doubt. In a way you kind of have it coming as a person if those are the choices you make. If he let her live free and didn't help her get on her feet enough to move on her own then he brought it on himself. Edited July 11, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Augie said: No, I’m pretty sue he’s DEAD! For real! ? This is no time to bring up Watergate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I'm not denying that people harm themselves. I've treated many such patients. I'm saying tossing this out there as an as likely scenario (as has been posted here, is silly. Also, are you saying that the images are faked and that the hospital staff assisted in the propagation of or could not recognize fake injuries? Again, I'm not arguing that it is not possible, but really less likely. I could be wrong. I've said repeatedly that it's unlikely. Generally, with a level of self-injury this extreme, the story would break down pretty rapidly, and the self-inflicted nature of such an injury would be distinguishable. But I'm not dismissing it on the basis of "no one would EVER do that to themselves." Because that's stupid reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: Cape Fear was also good We're getting off track but I do remember the short broad from The Fantasticals who designed hero uniforms and feared capes. It was pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Kidding ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, The Red King said: So...the attorney of a woman being evicted by McCoy painted McCoy as a bad guy? No big shock there. That's part of their job. When you cherry pick things and put a spin on as harsh as a washing machine you can make a saint look like Satan, and lawyers are the best at that. I agree, which is why I didn't include everything in the document. I was just trying to list out some of the details from their side that seemed to get overlooked, like shady shutting off the electricity on them less than a month after he "ghosted" her completely. Again, and I stated it every time I brought it up in my post - this is all according to her and her attorney. She could be crazy, I'm not ruling that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Run for Philadelphia DA and re-open the case. Can't take that kind of pay cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Rob's House said: These cases are rare, but they do happen. With how little we know about this case, and how odd what we do know is, no decent person would be quick to jump to conclusions. This. All the this. I'm not saying McCoy is innocent. I'm saying there are too many plausible scenarios here to be able to declare with certainty whether or not McCoy was responsible. Most of us are simply waiting until there is hard evidence before deciding. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: The bar room brawl . Him and his buddies against some off duty cops I think he kicked a hippie chick off his girls only party bus....for not being sexy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What Philly incident...? The one where Shady and his buddies got jumped by those off-duty cops who were wasted on bubbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: This is no time to bring up Watergate.. ....one stupid piece of tape....so much trouble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Can't take that kind of pay cut Neither can Ko Simpson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Red King said: So...the attorney of a woman being evicted by McCoy painted McCoy as a bad guy? No big shock there. That's part of their job. When you cherry pick things and put a spin on as harsh as a washing machine you can make a saint look like Satan, and lawyers are the best at that. That seems pretty self-evident. But it's amazing how many people just nod their head and say, "yep, that right..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: I've said repeatedly that it's unlikely. Generally, with a level of self-injury this extreme, the story would break down pretty rapidly, and the self-inflicted nature of such an injury would be distinguishable. But I'm not dismissing it on the basis of "no one would EVER do that to themselves." Because that's stupid reasoning. I didn't say that. I was just indicating my surprise that it would be put out there as a plausible possibility in this case. It's a possibility, but not a plausible one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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