Terrell Owens Declined His Invitation to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Let’s not bring facts into this lynching now the sheep will get upset.

 

 

Many posters are always dumping on the NFL as a league for how they treat players, etc.  Yet when this time comes, it's all about "they are GIVING you this honor, now go up there and put on that jacket and give the speech for them!".

[eball]

I'm declining the NFL's invitation to watch the HOF ceremonies tonight because one second of listening to Ray Lewis is one too many.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Billsfanatic8989]

It's disrespectful to his fellow NFL peers and those already enshrined. There are players who've waited decades to get in. Yet they still attended. He only cares about himself.

[LeGOATski]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

I get what you're saying but not how.  Ray Lewis is just as much about the spotlight as TO ever was.  

Of course. I'm just pointing out that there's another guy doing the exact opposite of what TO is doing. Totally cancelling him out. That's why his actions have no effect on the voting system.

[LeGOATski]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Too bad Lewis didn't attend a "life-changing luncheon" before he decided to shield a killer form the law and destroy evidence to thwart a murder investigation.

 

All in all, it's interesting to see the "outrage" people pretend to have over TO's decision not to show up at a tourist attraction that "enshrines"  POS's like Ray Lewis and OJ.

I know, right? 

 

This isn't outrage or an endorsement of Ray Lewis. I'm just pointing out the lack of sense in TO's statement when he's clearly not leading a revolution with any sort of legs under it.

 

Actually, it'd make more sense if he pulled himself from the nominations and said they're not allowed to put a bust of him in Canton. 

 

He doesn't like the members and their rules, but he still wants to be in their club.

[Another Fan]

He’s always stuck me as a look at me/narcissist type personality.  Even that time he was crying after the Cowboys playoff loss I think he was trying to draw attention to himself.  I have no doubt that’s all this HOF absence is.

 

However, I do have some appreciation for the year he was here.  I remember a few temper tantrums he threw but never too much drama.  In fact I still think that 2009 team could have been so much more if Fitz started from Day 1 and Fewell was the coach.

 

Someone recently posted highlighted from his one year with the Bills on YouTube

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I know, right? 

 

This isn't outrage or an endorsement of Ray Lewis. I'm just pointing out the lack of sense in TO's statement when he's clearly not leading a revolution with any sort of legs under it.

 

Actually, it'd make more sense if he pulled himself from the nominations and said they're not allowed to put a bust of him in Canton. 

 

He doesn't like the members and their rules, but he still wants to be in their club.

 

It's not about the members and their rules.  It's about being made to wait (he was an easy first ballot HOF player--more so than every other inductee this year except Moss) for reasons that had nothing to do with his level of accomplishment, by a group of effete voters who sometimes choose to abuse the privilege they were given to vote on this.

 

Look, I have enjoyed commenting on TO's goofiness for years, but it should be clear to everyone that he was held back by personal bias of enough voters who just didn't like the guy.  So in that regard, TO's position is legitimate.  All this "how DARE he"  pearl clutching is very revealing of those who are having any problem with this.  

 

Voters who are on record saying they didn't vote him in earlier because they felt he wasn't a "good teammate" (to the voters?? Did they consult all his teammates before they accepted this cliche?) or he was a "locker room cancer" should have their voting privileges revoked permanently as they are clearly unfit for this task.

[row_33]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It's not about the members and their rules.  It's about being made to wait (he was an easy first ballot HOF player--more so than every other inductee this year except Moss) for reasons that had nothing to do with his level of accomplishment, by a group of effete voters who sometimes choose to abuse the privilege they were given to vote on this.

 

Look, I have enjoyed commenting on TO's goofiness for years, but it should be clear to everyone that he was held back by personal bias of enough voters who just didn't like the guy.  So in that regard, TO's position is legitimate.  All this "how DARE he"  pearl clutching is very revealing of those who are having any problem with this.  

 

Voters who are on record saying they didn't vote him in earlier because they felt he wasn't a "good teammate" (to the voters?? Did they consult all his teammates before they accepted this cliche?) or he was a "locker room cancer" should have their voting privileges revoked permanently as they are clearly unfit for this task.

 

When you earn the right to vote for admission to Canton you can change it all in three seconds

 

 

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It's not about the members and their rules.  It's about being made to wait (he was an easy first ballot HOF player--more so than every other inductee this year except Moss) for reasons that had nothing to do with his level of accomplishment, by a group of effete voters who sometimes choose to abuse the privilege they were given to vote on this.

 

Look, I have enjoyed commenting on TO's goofiness for years, but it should be clear to everyone that he was held back by personal bias of enough voters who just didn't like the guy.  So in that regard, TO's position is legitimate.  All this "how DARE he"  pearl clutching is very revealing of those who are having any problem with this.  

 

Voters who are on record saying they didn't vote him in earlier because they felt he wasn't a "good teammate" (to the voters?? Did they consult all his teammates before they accepted this cliche?) or he was a "locker room cancer" should have their voting privileges revoked permanently as they are clearly unfit for this task.

That's fine. This still doesn't validate TO's claim that he's sticking up for everyone else and leading the charge for future HOF inductees, does it?

 

His actions aren't effective for that purpose at all, IMO.

 

Are you saying that he is successfully affecting the process?

[LeGOATski]

18 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

 

 

 

I'll never forget that 98 yard TD pass from Ryan Van Pelt.

[Another Fan]

4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I'll never forget that 98 yard TD pass from Ryan Van Pelt.

I’m thinking you meant Fitz

[BillsFan17]

21 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I'll never forget that 98 yard TD pass from Ryan Van Pelt.

From who?

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said:

From who?

Alex Holcomb?

17 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

I’m thinking you meant Fitz

In the video, the announcer says "Ryan Van Pelt"

 

Just a sad reflection of the Bills' QB situation over the years...

[Fadingpain]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Alex Holcomb?

In the video, the announcer says "Ryan Van Pelt"

 

Just a sad reflection of the Bills' QB situation over the years...

Ryan Van Pelt, Alex Fitzpatrick, Todd Johnson, Rob Collins, J.P. Edwards, Trent Losman....

 

It's all kind of modular isn't?  Change the names around, same result.

 

[LeGOATski]

4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Ryan Van Pelt, Alex Fitzpatrick, Todd Johnson, Rob Collins, J.P. Edwards, Trent Losman....

 

It's all kind of modular isn't?  Change the names around, same result.

 

AJ Peterman

[BuffAlone]

T.O. is the very definition of a diva. Harsh words to everyone. I'm glad he was a model citizen here for one year, but God dang, get over your Chattanooga ass!

[BillsFan130]

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[Augie]

1 minute ago, billsfan11 said:

?

 

I don’t think he’s a fan. 

[BuffAlone]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t think he’s a fan. 

T.O.'s speech...quite funny

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

T.O.'s speech...quite funny

 

I’ll take your word for it. Not a big fan of the diva. I honestly hope you enjoyed it. He’s not a guy I’ll tune in for. 

[BuffAlone]

Just now, Augie said:

 

I’ll take your word for it. Not a big fan of the diva. I honestly hope you enjoyed it. He’s not a guy I’ll tune in for. 

Yeah, nor am I. I just watched due to the connection, and the diva response. That man will never change

[wppete]

I loved the Fitzpatrick to T.O. Combo we had for that one year.

 

A little sad to see that speech, T.O. Is still very bitter. Wish he went to the Hall of Fame ceremony. Hands down one of the best players to ever play in the NFL. 

[brianthomas]

Yeah i liked T.O. when he was here, i wish he would've stayed longer tbh, but i remember I couldn't believe we ever got him here. Quite possibly the biggest name player we've had here in 15 years other than Shady. We even friggin gave T.O. the key to the city too haha... priceless. I wonder if he still has it lol

[harv shitz]

He really made himself look like a selfish, crybaby !@#$ not going to the ceremony. 

[Seanbillsfan2206]

He’s all about himself and this was his one last chance to make it all about himself. If he wasn’t a team cancer throughout most of his career he may have been a first ballot hall of famer....

[harv shitz]

Agreed. It's a shame, however, as he was a great player, when he wasn't being disruptive. I bet he lives a very miserable, lonely, life. I doubt he's much fun to be around on a regular basis. Very sad.........

[Bing Bong]

I'll translate. A team where no hall of famer would have wanted to play. He's saying he had a tough path and is stronger for it.

[NewEra]

I appreciate what TO did and why he did it.  I was never a Big TO fan, minus the one year with the Bills, but he should’ve been a 1st ballot HoFer because he was that good and accomplished that much on the field.  He said that the reason he wasn’t at the induction and speaking at his alma mater is because the writers didn’t have the intentions of the HoF in mind when voting, but voting based on their personal bias.  That was perfect imo.  Good for you TO.  Love you some you.  If you can’t, no one else can

9 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

He’s all about himself and this was his one last chance to make it all about himself. If he wasn’t a team cancer throughout most of his career he may have been a first ballot hall of famer....

If the voters voted for him based on his performance on the football field, he would’ve been a first ballot HoFer.

Edited August 5, 2018 by NewEra

[LeGOATski]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I appreciate what TO did and why he did it.  I was never a Big TO fan, minus the one year with the Bills, but he should’ve been a 1st ballot HoFer because he was that good and accomplished that much on the field.  He said that the reason he wasn’t at the induction and speaking at his alma mater is because the writers didn’t have the intentions of the HoF in mind when voting, but voting based on their personal bias.  That was perfect imo.  Good for you TO.  Love you some you.  If you can’t, no one else can

If the voters voted for someone based on his performance on the football field, he would’ve been a first ballot HoFer.

The HoF is just a place. It has no intentions. The HoF Selection Committee only has to align with it's own intentions, which are probably not the best. There's probably some BS politics going on there, which is just a fact of life in every organization.

 

Their selection criteria obviously includes more than just on-field accomplishments. If TO was true to himself, I think he would accept that he wasn't an "NFL role model" and that he wasn't going to win over the Selection Committee right away.

[Madbillsfan]

Nobody really wants to come to Buffalo. 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

The HoF is just a place. It has no intentions. The HoF Selection Committee only has to align with it's own intentions, which are probably not the best. There's probably some BS politics going on there, which is just a fact of life in every organization.

 

Their selection criteria obviously includes more than just on-field accomplishments. If TO was true to himself, I think he would accept that he wasn't an "NFL role model" and that he wasn't going to win over the Selection Committee right away.

And the HoF committee came out of this looking like a bunch of complete idiots according the most people.  Sure, some that really hate TO agree with them.  To each is there own.  But he should have been 1st ballot.  2nd ballot at the very least.  Making him wait his 3rd go around was absurd imo.  Then, when he says he’s not going to attend, they decide to cut him out completely and make themselves look like 2nd graders while TO goes out on his own accord.  Loving him some him.  

 

Thats just how how I see it.  

[JimKellyTryouts]

At 2:10 he gives us a shoutout...."To a team where really nobody wanted to play"

 

Sigh...we were definitely a trainwreck during the 2000s but surely he could have given a better one liner than that. Oh well.

 

 

Edited August 5, 2018 by JimKellyTryouts

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

And the HoF committee came out of this looking like a bunch of complete idiots according the most people.  Sure, some that really hate TO agree with them.  To each is there own.  But he should have been 1st ballot.  2nd ballot at the very least.  Making him wait his 3rd go around was absurd imo.  Then, when he says he’s not going to attend, they decide to cut him out completely and make themselves look like 2nd graders while TO goes out on his own accord.  Loving him some him.  

 

Thats just how how I see it.  

Yeah, their reaction wasn't good, either. Someone could've taken the high road. I would've rather seen TO go to the Canton ceremony and give that speech to their faces.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

And the HoF committee came out of this looking like a bunch of complete idiots according the most people.  Sure, some that really hate TO agree with them.  To each is there own.  But he should have been 1st ballot.  2nd ballot at the very least.  Making him wait his 3rd go around was absurd imo.  Then, when he says he’s not going to attend, they decide to cut him out completely and make themselves look like 2nd graders while TO goes out on his own accord.  Loving him some him.  

 

Thats just how how I see it.  

 

Not surprising.

[Kirby Jackson]

I agree with NewEra on this. TO was, without question, a 1st ballot HOFer. The writers didn’t like him so they didn’t put him in. Marvin Harrison shot people, was a worse player and still got in ahead of TO. 

[The Process]

7 hours ago, Madbillsfan said:

Nobody really wants to come to Buffalo. 

Until they do.

[Green Lightning]

At the end of the day, I really don't care. Another celebrity tantrum. He always had a me first, team second attitude and the writers reacted to it. He's in the HOF, belongs in, but I'm not surprised he did what he did. It's just how he rolls.

[Behindenemylines]

8 hours ago, NewEra said:

I appreciate what TO did and why he did it.  I was never a Big TO fan, minus the one year with the Bills, but he should’ve been a 1st ballot HoFer because he was that good and accomplished that much on the field.  He said that the reason he wasn’t at the induction and speaking at his alma mater is because the writers didn’t have the intentions of the HoF in mind when voting, but voting based on their personal bias.  That was perfect imo.  Good for you TO.  Love you some you.  If you can’t, no one else can

If the voters voted for him based on his performance on the football field, he would’ve been a first ballot HoFer.

But HoF isn't just about pure performance its also about contribution to the overall game.  Attitude and history are a part of that. 

[Fr. Jerk]