YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2779018-undrafted-rookies-making-noise-in-offseason-workouts#slide1 After spending time at the Buffalo Bills' OTAs, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo highlighted an undrafted rookie that caught his eye: Alabama product Levi Wallace. "He is very undersized, but I watched him on the field," Garafolo said. "What he lacks in physicality, he makes up on the mental side. He was breaking on a lot of the routes. Don't discount Levi Wallace making this team and being an impact player." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Roll Tide! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 NRC 2.0? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Big C said: NRC 2.0? That would be the best case scenario. Hope it works out like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Levi is thin, but he isn't NRC, he is about 4 inches taller. Very undersized for a cornerback who is 6'0 180 is TV hyperbole. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Love this kid. Can legit see him as a starter this year. Work ethic matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, MJS said: That would be the best case scenario. Hope it works out like that. He is much bigger than NRC. He is about 6’ 180 he is my sleeper along with Robert foster to make the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Great story, even better if he sticks on the roster. Definitely a McD type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Levi is thin, but he isn't NRC, he is about 4 inches taller. Very undersized for a cornerback who is 6'0 180 is TV hyperbole. That’s bigger than Darby I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 About time we start getting a few gems...Love this team!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 He has play speed because he anticipates and studies. Always in the right place from the college film I watched. Saban must have loved this young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 darby is 5-11 but ran a 4.38 this kid ran a 4.65 so a bit on the slow side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, aristocrat said: darby is 5-11 but ran a 4.38 this kid ran a 4.65 so a bit on the slow side. Jalen Mills is the same height and has the same thin waist as Levi. Mills ran a 4.61 at the combine but ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Levi is comparable to Mills and Mills has very similar size and combines with our own Poyer. Confused yet!? I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Doubt he makes the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Jalen Mills is the same height and has the same thin waist as Levi. Mills ran a 4.61 at the combine but ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Levi is comparable to Mills and Mills has very similar size and combines with our own Poyer. Confused yet!? I am. sherman ran a 4.56 so the 40 isn't everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: sherman ran a 4.56 so the 40 isn't everything. I’m not worried about the 40 time that’s why I used Mills as a comparison. He has done pretty well in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, Commonsense said: I’m not worried about the 40 time that’s why I used Mills as a comparison. He has done pretty well in Philly. absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Doubt he makes the team. After White and Davis and maybe Gaines the CB position is wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: After White and Davis and maybe Gaines the CB position is wide open. I think Gaines has less chance. Taron Johnson is a lock imo as a 4th rd pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 A 4.65 40? 180 lb? No thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think Gaines has less chance. Taron Johnson is a lock imo as a 4th rd pick Gaines has no chance considering he is playing for Cleveland. Edited June 6, 2018 by Irv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, Irv said: Gaines has no chance considering he is playing for Cleveland. Phillip Gaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Irv said: Gaines has no chance considering he is playing for Cleveland. Try to keep up man: http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/Phillip-Gaines/07a7a9ba-7406-48ae-bde1-1ef8743b6baa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 all I saw was Levi..and immediately thought QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On his interview with Murph, he said that his first run at the combine was a 4.48, but hurt his heal at the end of the run. This apparently made his other runs slower. I'm wishing him nothing but the best... He sounds like a great guy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Fred Jackson of defense? ESPN Story So, after watching that, I REALLY want this kid to become our new Fred Jackson... Edited June 6, 2018 by LikeIGiveADarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Great kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think Gaines has less chance. Taron Johnson is a lock imo as a 4th rd pick I would agree that Johnson is more of a lock than Gaines. That's why I said "maybe". Still with 3 locks leaves 2-3 more. I like hearing about some of these young "improbable" guys. It's good for the team. I'm waiting to see who ends up as the nickel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Hopefully it can carry over to contact. He's the prototypical looks great in non-contact workouts player, who may have trouble once he starts getting hit harder than he has ever been hit before. Tackling a 200+ pound wideout isnt easy when your 180. Edited June 7, 2018 by MURPHD6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Hopefully it can carry over to contact. He's the prototypical looks great in non-contact workouts player, who may have trouble once he starts getting hit harder than he has ever been hit before. Tackling a 200+ pound wideout isnt easy when your 180. I’m pretty sure that there are 200+ pound WRs in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Bad Things said: On his interview with Murph, he said that his first run at the combine was a 4.48, but hurt his heal at the end of the run. This apparently made his other runs slower. I'm wishing him nothing but the best... He sounds like a great guy. Looking here, his best time was 4.45 and it mentions his heel on his first-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sky Diver said: I’m pretty sure that there are 200+ pound WRs in college. And alot of them get camp invites, while most 160, 170, 180" and 190 pound Wrs (and there are plenty those in college as well) do not. How oftten was he put up against 200+ recievers when you were watching him? Scouting reports say that he struggled against bigger Wrs. And what was he like in run support? The talent is a lot bigger in the NFL, so he better have amazing core strength and technique because its really easy to block a guy who's 180 at the NFL level; cracking special teams will be tough. And if his speed is average, bulking up could easily slow him down to below average. Correction, he's listed at 179. I have nothing against the kid, but he sounds like a more of a Practice squad candidate. And for the record Darby is listed at 5'11 193. 13 pounds heavier and 1 inch shorter makes alot of difference in terms of body mass index. Edited June 7, 2018 by MURPHD6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The kid walked on at Bama and made the team don't count him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Bad Things said: On his interview with Murph, he said that his first run at the combine was a 4.48, but hurt his heal at the end of the run. This apparently made his other runs slower. I'm wishing him nothing but the best... He sounds like a great guy. Thanks for that info , and at 6'0 4.48 sec sounds a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, Commonsense said: Jalen Mills is the same height and has the same thin waist as Levi. Mills ran a 4.61 at the combine but ran a 4.48 at his pro day. Levi is comparable to Mills and Mills has very similar size and combines with our own Poyer. Confused yet!? I am. Me too, and there's more. NFLDraftScout sez this about Wallace: "No Full Workout-Heel on 1st 40/Affected his 40 Yard Dash Times," and they listed his fastest 40 time as 4.45. EDIT: I see others have already posted it. But worth noting the 4.45 they list. Edited June 7, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, MURPHD6 said: And alot of them get camp invites, while most 160, 170, 180" and 190 pound Wrs (and there are plenty those in college as well) do not. How oftten was he put up against 200+ recievers when you were watching him? Scouting reports say that he struggled against bigger Wrs. And what was he like in run support? The talent is a lot bigger in the NFL, so he better have amazing core strength and technique because its really easy to block a guy who's 180 at the NFL level; cracking special teams will be tough. And if his speed is average, bulking up could easily slow him down to below average. Correction, he's listed at 179. I have nothing against the kid, but he sounds like a more of a Practice squad candidate. And for the record Darby is listed at 5'11 193. 13 pounds heavier and 1 inch shorter makes alot of difference in terms of body mass index. Big, strong WR's are tough for any CB to defend. Wallace played against the best college players in the land. It's not as if he played D3 ball. He's fundamentally sound which is why is nickname is "the technician". A walk on starter at Alabama is exceedingly rare. Edited June 7, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 14 hours ago, Bad Things said: On his interview with Murph, he said that his first run at the combine was a 4.48, but hurt his heal at the end of the run. This apparently made his other runs slower. I'm wishing him nothing but the best... He sounds like a great guy. It always bothers me that a few days of combine can be so much more important that 2 or 3 years of game film. 55 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Big, strong WR's are tough for any CB to defend. Wallace played against the best college players in the land. It's not as if he played D3 ball. He's fundamentally sound which is why is nickname is "the technician". A walk on starter at Alabama is exceedingly rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, aristocrat said: sherman ran a 4.56 so the 40 isn't everything. Especially in this defense. Heavy zone, cover 3 defenses don't rely on speed on the outside as much, and often times have their eyes in the backfield. Jumping routes is key for this defense. It's part of why a guy like NRC had some success earlier in his career. Granted it wasn't the same defense, but good pressure up front, forcing the ball out faster, and DBs eyes in the backfield. Instincts trump speed with CBs in this defense IMO. Edited June 7, 2018 by Drunken Pygmy Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 It's definitely good to hear that he ran a 4.45 and that he had a heel injury. And as for Sherman, I believe he was recovering from some injury when he ran at the Combine as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Sky Diver said: Big, strong WR's are tough for any CB to defend. Wallace played against the best college players in the land. It's not as if he played D3 ball. He's fundamentally sound which is why is nickname is "the technician". A walk on starter at Alabama is exceedingly rare. He'll likely have to play Special Teams to make the squad then. Dbs have started at his size before. But this regime seems to be placing an emphasis on size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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