Bills UDFA signings & Rookie minicamp invitees

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

Peterman will be cut this year

 

If they go with 2 QB's, likely.  If they go with 3, nope.

[ddaryl]

Just now, Doc said:

 

If they go with 2 QB's, likely.  If they go with 3, nope.

 

 

I disagree,  Peterman sucks... If we keep 3 maybe he sticks and they still put Zapoticky on the PS.. But I'm placing my money on being cut

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

If they go with 2 QB's, likely.  If they go with 3, nope.

 

I see him clearing waivers and ending up on the practice squad as insurance to begin the season.

[BuffaloHokie13]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

If they go with 2 QB's, likely.  If they go with 3, nope.

I doubt they carry 3 unless there's an injury. Even then, there's guys like Derek Anderson or Matt Moore available as FAs who would be better suited to come in and keep the ship afloat.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Putin]

11 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

I disagree,  Peterman sucks... If we keep 3 maybe he sticks and they still put Zapoticky on the PS.. But I'm placing my money on being cut

You can disagree all you want , but if the plan is to sit Allen and try to work on his mechanics/ footwork and what ever else it takes to improve his accuracy , then there is no way we’re starting the season with him being the next man up , so in my humble opinion we’re going with 3 QB’ s and like it or not Peterman will get a chance to compete with AJ for the starting job , Zapoticky on a PS ? I’m pretty sure we have bigger holes to fill in other positions ! 

BTW I’ll take that bet !!!

[ddaryl]

Just now, Putin said:

You can disagree all you want , but if the plan is to sit Allen and try to work on his mechanics/ footwork and what ever else it takes to improve his accuracy , then there is no way we’re starting the season with him being the next man up , so in my humble opinion we’re going with 3 QB’ s and like it or not Peterman will get a chance to compete with AJ for the starting job , Zapoticky on a PS ? I’m pretty sure we have bigger holes to fill in other positions ! 

BTW I’ll take that bet !!!

 

 

 

 

Peterman will not make it through pre-season

[Kelly the Dog]

2 minutes ago, Putin said:

You can disagree all you want , but if the plan is to sit Allen and try to work on his mechanics/ footwork and what ever else it takes to improve his accuracy , then there is no way we’re starting the season with him being the next man up , so in my humble opinion we’re going with 3 QB’ s and like it or not Peterman will get a chance to compete with AJ for the starting job , Zapoticky on a PS ? I’m pretty sure we have bigger holes to fill in other positions ! 

BTW I’ll take that bet !!!

I'll bet every dollar I can get my hands on that Josh Allen nails his mechanics on 95% of his throws in mini-camp and 85-95 in training camp. The only time QBs lose their mechanics is in real game situations with guys rushing them full speed. 

[Bills4life1924]

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[njbuff]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Finally a RB.

[Perk71]

2 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

Peterman will be cut this year

Doubt it

2 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

I disagree,  Peterman sucks... If we keep 3 maybe he sticks and they still put Zapoticky on the PS.. But I'm placing my money on being cut

 

Odds?  Let me know

[BullBuchanan]

5 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The HC made the decision to start Peterman, BENCHED him at halftime, and then told his team and the general public that it was a big mistake. And the offense regressed. And he is a defensive coach.

 

2 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

 

 

Peterman will not make it through pre-season

 

The real story is that as of today, Peterman is a better QB than Josh Allen. Allen has a long way to go trying to figure out how to play quarterback at a D1 level, let alone a pro level. I hope he gets there, but it might take him 2-3 years on the bench.

[BurpleBull]

3 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

I disagree,  Peterman sucks... If we keep 3 maybe he sticks and they still put Zapoticky on the PS.. But I'm placing my money on being cut

 

Based on what, last season?

 

I'm putting my money on Peterman improving from last season. His only truly poor showing was the game vs LAC.

 

 

Peterman is sticking around.

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

Based on what, last season?

 

I'm putting my money on Peterman improving from last season. His only truly poor showing was the game vs LAC.

 

 

Peterman is sticking around.

Peterman's not going anywhere. People want to crucify him after the Charger debacle. Rule #1. Never start a 5th round rookie qb for the 1st time on the road against a top 5 pass rush. I know Tyrod was playing his usual mediocre safe football but throwing Nate to the wolves was stupid. After DiMarco butchered that pic6 I'd probably be deflated too. I think worse case scenario is Peterman is on the PS....And that Charger game is an excellent example of not playing Allen at all this year.

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Peterman's not going anywhere. People want to crucify him after the Charger debacle. Rule #1. Never start a 5th round rookie qb for the 1st time on the road against a top 5 pass rush. I know Tyrod was playing his usual mediocre safe football but throwing Nate to the wolves was stupid. After DiMarco butchered that pic6 I'd probably be deflated too. I think worse case scenario is Peterman is on the PS....And that Charger game is an excellent example of not playing Allen at all this year.

Do yourself a favor, and don't project Nate's weaknesses and inabilities on Josh. Nate can only dream of having the talent and arm that Josh does.

[Punching Bag]

On 4/28/2018 at 9:06 PM, Saint Doug said:

Da’Rick. Guy named Nance. Some huge fat TE (or DT) that we were trying to turn into next Peters. Forgot his name. 

 

Jasper was a 7th round pick.

[Putin]

3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I'll bet every dollar I can get my hands on that Josh Allen nails his mechanics on 95% of his throws in mini-camp and 85-95 in training camp. The only time QBs lose their mechanics is in real game situations with guys rushing them full speed. 

What I was trying to say was whatever  he needs to work on to get his accuracy improved , 

but I also watched some  film and I saw him make some amazing throws , from the pocket & while on the move , I also heard some experts and his coache and they were talking about Allen and Mayfield and both QB’s the style of offense they were in and completion% , basically Mayfield 25% of the passing attempts were screens / short passes , 

where in Allen’s case and the style of offense he had to air it out more and ( basically) make things happen = carry the team 

 

[Doc]

Don't forget Kamil Loud.

[Wayne Arnold]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Five-star recruit out of high school, signed with Oklahoma. Played two seasons there, transferred to A&M.

 

Ford's career started in Oklahoma, but midway through his five years on campus, it was time for a change. The five-star recruit and top-10 running back prospect nationally joined the Sooners in 2013, getting some carries during his 10 games of action (23 carries, 134 yards, one touchdown). The following year, he started three of eight games played, making an impact as a rusher (63 carries, 369 yards, five touchdowns) and receiver (11 receptions, 140 yards, one touchdown). Ford was suspended during 2015 spring practices, however, for academic and team rules violations. He stated that Sooners running back coach Jay Boulware treated him like he was "in high school." A transfer to A&M was in the cards, and he was named the team's Offensive Scout Team MVP while redshirting the fall of 2015. Ford started nine games in his first year of action with the Aggies, playing in all 13 to rush for 669 yards and six scores on 126 carries (five receptions, 81 yards).

 

Overview

Ford is a one-speed, straight ahead runner who looks to duck his head and ground out yardage through physicality. His lack of vision and elusiveness puts a cap on what he can offer a team as a runner, but he does have NFL size and a chance to earn a roster spot if he can prove to be a tough yardage specialist with plus coverage ability on coverage teams.

 

 

Strengths

• Scouts say he loves football and is willing to put good effort into practices
• Determined runner with good NFL size
• Can bulldoze forward as a pile mover
• Has enough footwork to make an initial tackler miss
• Consistently drops pad level and accelerates into contact helping him finish falling forward
• Not a dynamic pass catcher, but can handle basic receiving duties out of backfield
• Possesses size and toughness to handle blitz pickup on passing downs

Weaknesses

• Lacks finesse and can be a bull when running in constricted tighter creases
• Tight-hipped in his cuts and isn't going to run with much knee or hip bend in general
• Has to gear down to make his cuts
• Single speed runner
• Can make the first guy miss at times, but doesn't have the agility to string moves together
• Vision is somewhat basic and doesn't show an innate feel for backside cutback opportunities

Sources Tell Us

"I don't think he's always easy to deal with for coaches and that is certainly what I got from Oklahoma when I asked about him in there. He has good size and is tough which is what we look for." - NFC area scout

[Putin]

4 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

Peterman will be cut this year

Peterman will win the starting job and will make the Pro Bowl !!! 

( how’s that ??? ) 

[Tyrod's friend]

6 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

He was bad long before the game, right before the game, especially during the game, and after the game. Coaches rarely acknowledge they made a dumbass move and ours all but apologized to his team for being a dumbass and starting NP.

Ok. You've identified yourself as an idiot. Welcome to ignore, you have nothing to offer anyone.

[Kelly the Dog]

4 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

Ok. You've identified yourself as an idiot. Welcome to ignore, you have nothing to offer anyone.

Buh-bye!

[Punching Bag]

QB Ryan Zapoticky of Shippensburg was invited to camp.  I heard from a friend who is a Pittsburgh fan and worked Penn State pro day.  Said he does not know how he is under fire but Zapoticky threw a lot of balls and would make a good arm in training camp at least.  Zapoticky was there because the Lions did not have any QBs to throw.

23 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Good initiative on the kid, too, working himself into PSU's pro day.  Interesting guy.

 

Yeah a Penn State friend said he was a great thrower but that is not all there is to being a QB.  I like the fact he is continuing to work during offseason.

15 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

Ok. You've identified yourself as an idiot. Welcome to ignore, you have nothing to offer anyone.

Kelly is a mutt but our mutt.  You have not identified yourself as anything (/dev/null).

[BurpleBull]

32 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Peterman's not going anywhere. People want to crucify him after the Charger debacle. Rule #1. Never start a 5th round rookie qb for the 1st time on the road against a top 5 pass rush. I know Tyrod was playing his usual mediocre safe football but throwing Nate to the wolves was stupid. After DiMarco butchered that pic6 I'd probably be deflated too. I think worse case scenario is Peterman is on the PS....And that Charger game is an excellent example of not playing Allen at all this year.

 

I didn't even know the LAC's pass rush was rated so highly until after the game.

 

I thought it was really crazy how people were willing to overlook the fact that Nathan Peterman was really pressing the issue in his first start, doing his best to push the ball downfield and be the anti-Tyrod.

 

I think in year two we see a more settled Peterman who plays within his abilities vs. a guy that forces the issue trying to prove his worth all in one shot.

 

 

 

[Doc]

19 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

I didn't even know the LAC's pass rush was rated so highly until after the game.

 

I thought it was really crazy how people were willing to overlook the fact that Nathan Peterman was really pressing the issue in his first start, doing his best to push the ball downfield and be the anti-Tyrod.

 

I think in year two we see a more settled Peterman who plays within his abilities vs. a guy that forces the issue trying to prove his worth all in one shot.

 

I don't know if they were truly that dominant, the OL protested Tyrod's benching, or both?  Again there's that sound bite of Bosa saying "he didn't even try to block me."

[Joe Miner]

Well, at least this hasn't turned into a Tyrod thread.

 

Good job, we're making progress!

[PIZ]

 

 

 

[Zac]

 It's kind of funny that the narrative is that Foster is pretty good but just didn't get much of an opportunity.  Then he is picked up by his OC who you'd think would have been in a place to give him said opportunity. 

[Griff28]

After signing Ford, it appears the roster is now at 91.  I may be wrong but I don't think the draft picks actually count against the 90 player limit, however, until they actually sign.  So there is still wiggle room in establishing the 90 man camp roster.

[MrEpsYtown]

I have not seen much written about Matt Boesen. He's an undersized defensive end, who can really get to the quarterback. He could stand to gain 10-15 pounds, or he could become an OLB. He was at Boise State playing as a RS freshmen and got in some trouble and was dismissed from the team. He wound up at a JUCO and transferred to TCU. PFF loves him. In one game he had like 14 quarterback pressures and six sacks. He also has a bit of an edge to him as he has been ejected a number of times. Not sure he really has an NFL position, but this guy is interesting. Firs training camp fight likely Boesen vs Teller. 

 

Oh and he was a pretty good high school wrestler. 

[Turk71]

40 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I have not seen much written about Matt Boesen. He's an undersized defensive end, who can really get to the quarterback. He could stand to gain 10-15 pounds, or he could become an OLB. He was at Boise State playing as a RS freshmen and got in some trouble and was dismissed from the team. He wound up at a JUCO and transferred to TCU. PFF loves him. In one game he had like 14 quarterback pressures and six sacks. He also has a bit of an edge to him as he has been ejected a number of times. Not sure he really has an NFL position, but this guy is interesting. Firs training camp fight likely Boesen vs Teller. 

 

Oh and he was a pretty good high school wrestler. 

10 tackles ..5.5 sacks and a forced fumble against Baylor in an important game, impressive no doubt. Teller has 70 lbs on Boesen and he benches 460 lbs, squats 600 and cleans 400 lb. High school wrestling may not be enough. Phillips on the other hand was a 3 time state heavyweight wrestling champ of Nebraska, and won the national championship as a junior. High character tough guys, I like it.

[Turk71]

Edited May 1, 2018 by Turk71

[Thurman#1]

On 4/29/2018 at 9:00 AM, Fires said:

We always find a diamond in the rough  in the UDFA pile for the PS.  GO BILLS!

 

 

Yup, every once in a while.

 

Corbin Bryant was a UDFA, though it was the Steelers he spent his first year with. Groy too, though he spent his first year with the Bears. Chris Hogan. Lorax and Humber both, though again they didn't start with the Bills. George Wilson, Donald Jones.

Edited May 1, 2018 by Thurman#1

[MrEpsYtown]

3 hours ago, Turk71 said:

10 tackles ..5.5 sacks and a forced fumble against Baylor in an important game, impressive no doubt. Teller has 70 lbs on Boesen and he benches 460 lbs, squats 600 and cleans 400 lb. High school wrestling may not be enough. Phillips on the other hand was a 3 time state heavyweight wrestling champ of Nebraska, and won the national championship as a junior. High character tough guys, I like it.

 

Agreed! There is totally a training camp skirmish in there waiting to happen. 

[Thurman#1]

17 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

He was bad long before the game, right before the game, especially during the game, and after the game. Coaches rarely acknowledge they made a dumbass move and ours all but apologized to his team for being a dumbass and starting NP.

 

 

 

You're way overselling this. 

 

First, plenty of coaches acknowledge dumbass moves. 

 

And McDermott never all but apologized to anyone. He's defended Peterman far more strongly ever since than he had to. My guess is practice squad, but I wouldn't be surprised if they carry three, though you'd have to guess that for teams that don't see Peterman in practice there's probably not a big demand for his services, so he would likely be safe on the PS.

 

Yeah, it was a mistake. Peterman wasn't ready. But guys improve, and he's been working on his mechanics. They seem to really like the guy. The fans don't. But the Bills do and that is what counts.

[ddaryl]

13 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

 

The real story is that as of today, Peterman is a better QB than Josh Allen. Allen has a long way to go trying to figure out how to play quarterback at a D1 level, let alone a pro level. I hope he gets there, but it might take him 2-3 years on the bench.

 

Peterman won;t make it thru preseason

12 hours ago, Putin said:

Peterman will win the starting job and will make the Pro Bowl !!! 

( how’s that ??? ) 

Peterman won't make it through preseason

[Sky Diver]

9 hours ago, Zac said:

 It's kind of funny that the narrative is that Foster is pretty good but just didn't get much of an opportunity.  Then he is picked up by his OC who you'd think would have been in a place to give him said opportunity. 

 

Alabama was loaded at WR. Not enough balls to go around. Daboll obviously thinks highly of Foster,

[ddaryl]

13 hours ago, Perk71 said:

Doubt it

 

Odds?  Let me know

 

1:1

13 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

 

Based on what, last season?

 

I'm putting my money on Peterman improving from last season. His only truly poor showing was the game vs LAC.

 

 

Peterman is sticking around.

 

Peterman won't make it through preseason

[PaattMaann]

37 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Alabama was loaded at WR. Not enough balls to go around. Daboll obviously thinks highly of Foster,

 

not to mention they dont really have an aerial attack. Ridley caught 65 balls and then a bunch of dudes caught like 15. Thats what happens when your passing offense generates 2000 yards all year....

[Doc]

39 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

1:1

 

Peterman won't make it through preseason

 

I'll put money on that one.  How much?