Dr. Who Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, RobH063 said: How the hell does Ian Rappaport know what Beane and company are doing. You got one thread saying there's information indicating there's an agreement in principle with the Giants for the No. 2 pick and now this thread saying the Bills aren't going for pick No. 2 No one knows diddly squat. Everyone throwing crap at the wall to get people to read their BS. This just in.................Brandon Beane seen wearing Brown dress shoes. Agreement must be in place for pick No. 1 or Pick No. 4. No other reason why Beane would be wearing Brown shoes. Wait a minute. McDermott seen eating a donut with Orange Frosting while watching an old Western with lots of horses. Agreement must be in place for the Broncos No. 5 pick. No other explanation for why McDermott would be seen doing this. Wait!!!!! Terry Pegula seen boarding his Private Jet while wearing a Green tie. Agreement in place with the Jets for the No. 3 pick. No other way to explain why Pegula would be seen wearing a Green tie while getting on his Jet. Funny, but maybe one less cup of coffee . . . If rumors that the Browns will pass on Darnold are true, I sure hope we are doing everything we can to move up to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I have it on what I consider pretty good authority that Jets very much like Rosen so I don't believe he is off their board. I posted this once before and a poster said "no you don't." Er, okay, believe what you will. I stand by my comment that they like him. I have no scoop on Jets view of Mayfield and my Jets fans friends insist they love him. If they like both Mayfield and Rosen a great deal it explains why they were comfortable going to three far in advance (likely presuming/knowing Darnold or Allen are #1). And I have no idea whether they like Rosen or Mayfield more. I hope they like Rosen -- my wish for the Bills is Allen and I don't want Rosen one bit. Having said that the Rosen vs. Allen debate is greatly polarizing our fine board. Can we settle on hoping for Baker at #5 or 6? I have not heard much Mayfield hate. I would be delighted and willing to let go of my largely unfounded passion for Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: I have it on what I consider pretty good authority that Jets very much like Rosen so I don't believe he is off their board. I posted this once before and a poster said "no you don't." Er, okay, believe what you will. I stand by my comment that they like him. I have no scoop on Jets view of Mayfield and my Jets fans friends insist they love him. If they like both Mayfield and Rosen a great deal it explains why they were comfortable going to three far in advance (likely presuming/knowing Darnold or Allen are #1). And I have no idea whether they like Rosen or Mayfield more. I hope they like Rosen -- my wish for the Bills is Allen and I don't want Rosen one bit. Having said that the Rosen vs. Allen debate is greatly polarizing our fine board. Can we settle on hoping for Baker at #5 or 6? I have not heard much Mayfield hate. I would be delighted and willing to let go of my largely unfounded passion for Allen. Interesting, thanks. Darnold, Allen, Mayfield, Rosen -- how they should be ranked, imo. I'd have to imagine the Jets would strongly consider Darnold if Browns take Allen. Edited April 20, 2018 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: I would not give the Cards the chance to make a "desperate" payment where they could take the qb I want. Nor should they, but I don't think there's a snowball's chance in Hades Darnold falls to 5. Completely agree, but the 1% chance has me going crazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I have been getting the NY Times delivered to my house for over 20 years and I generally do not read the sports section except for some of their baseball analysis (Tyler Kepner is good). It is the only paper I get, but the sports section is terrible. It's about as good as their comics section. As I told WEO you need to expand your horizon. The NY Times exceptionally covers sports such as croquet, chess tournaments with super star Russians, bridge tournaments and cricket. If you ever earn your way into the lofty status of being a beautiful person you will become an avid reader of their sports page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yup, I agree that it might be a high pick next year. I remember reading this one year ago today too. Y'all keep forgetting we now have a coach and process that finally got the players to BILLIEVE. I don't see that going anywhere. AND we removed our biggest hurdle in advancing in the playoffs I fully expect that pick to be #32 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 9 hours ago, papazoid said: Browns have reportedly considered drafting two quarterbacks with high-round picks https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-have-reportedly-considered-drafting-two-quarterbacks-with-high-round-picks/ i predicted this a couple of days ago. clowns take Darnold at 1 and Rosen at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Still wouldn't be surprised if the Bills are in play for #2. A deal could've been worked out months/weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: i predicted this a couple of days ago. clowns take Darnold at 1 and Rosen at 4. ...probably would have plenty of suitors with big packages in hand...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I think the Bills end up picking at 2. I predict that they first trade with Denver to get to 5. Then the Giants feel comfortable dropping back to 5 and getting either Chubb or Barkley. Allen goes #1 to Browns and the Bills take Darnold at #2, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, SWATeam said: I think the Bills end up picking at 2. I predict that they first trade with Denver to get to 5. Then the Giants feel comfortable dropping back to 5 and getting either Chubb or Barkley. Allen goes #1 to Browns and the Bills take Darnold at #2, IMO. Probably not necessary to get to 5 first. Price to get to 2 is dropping. If NYG are not taking a QB, then they will be desperate to trade back and the Bills have the most to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I hope so. Of the guys they could take there, I think he will be the easiest to beat in the nfl. Just Pin him in the pocket and play tight outside. make him he a QB 5 minutes ago, mannc said: Price to get to 2 is dropping How exactly do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: make him he a QB I think that’s going to be the plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Are we going after #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I wouldn't wait too long to see if Denver is really interested in trading down. They could try to freeze teams trying to trade into the top 5 by making them wait until they are on the clock. They could bait teams thinking they are trade partners. If they will not trade before the draft then don't count on them to move when the pick actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, turftoe said: I wouldn't wait too long to see if Denver is really interested in trading down. They could try to freeze teams trying to trade into the top 5 by making them wait until they are on the clock. They could bait teams thinking they are trade partners. If they will not trade before the draft then don't count on them to move when the pick actually happens. I have no idea, but I suspect Beane has already talked with just about every team in the league. He sees himself as Ralphie's old man at the Christmas tree store Edited April 20, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 21 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Mayfield to Jets is a done deal Personally think its Allen they want. Darnold Barkley Mayfield Chubb Allen Makes me sick to my stomach I don't think Allen is the Jets first choice, Mac needs someone who doesn't need as long to start playing, by the time Allen can get in there Mac and toilet Bowles will be gone. 25 minutes ago, KollegeStudnet said: Still wouldn't be surprised if the Bills are in play for #2. A deal could've been worked out months/weeks ago. Then why no trade yet? I don't think the Giants are trading out, they are hoping Darnold will be there, if not. Draft Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I really don't know why anyone has any QB pegged for any team. Why Allen to the Browns? Why Mayfield to the Jets? These guys don't know anything. Just sit back, enjoy the rumors and mayhem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: make him he a QB How exactly do you know this? I don’t, but it should be, unless the Giants really want to draft a qb there, which is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, turftoe said: I wouldn't wait too long to see if Denver is really interested in trading down. They could try to freeze teams trying to trade into the top 5 by making them wait until they are on the clock. They could bait teams thinking they are trade partners. If they will not trade before the draft then don't count on them to move when the pick actually happens. Agreed. I wouldn’t trust Elway at all. If Denver doesn’t agree to a trade before the draft starts, do the deal with Indy at 6 and get up to 2 if Darnold is there. Edited April 20, 2018 by BuffaloRebound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 5 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said: I have it on what I consider pretty good authority that Jets very much like Rosen so I don't believe he is off their board. I posted this once before and a poster said "no you don't." Er, okay, believe what you will. I stand by my comment that they like him. I have no scoop on Jets view of Mayfield and my Jets fans friends insist they love him. If they like both Mayfield and Rosen a great deal it explains why they were comfortable going to three far in advance (likely presuming/knowing Darnold or Allen are #1). And I have no idea whether they like Rosen or Mayfield more. I hope they like Rosen -- my wish for the Bills is Allen and I don't want Rosen one bit. Having said that the Rosen vs. Allen debate is greatly polarizing our fine board. Can we settle on hoping for Baker at #5 or 6? I have not heard much Mayfield hate. I would be delighted and willing to let go of my largely unfounded passion for Allen. It's a smoke screen, all this information linking the Jets to Mayfield, and barely anything about Rosen. Imo, Rosen is the Jets choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Then why no trade yet? I don't think the Giants are trading out, they are hoping Darnold will be there, if not. Draft Barkley. Probably waiting after the #1 pick is selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: It's a smoke screen, all this information linking the Jets to Mayfield, and barely anything about Rosen. Imo, Rosen is the Jets choice. Idk how smart the Jets are. Im not sure they are that coy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, KollegeStudnet said: Probably waiting after the #1 pick is selected. If the #1 pick is Allen, then all hell is going to break loose on here and Jets boards. Just now, Mat68 said: Idk how smart the Jets are. Im not sure they are that coy. As coy as all the other GM's, nobody is playing their cards. And if people think that GM's are going to base their picks to stop another team from getting that player, then they need a reality check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: If the #1 pick is Allen, then all hell is going to break loose on here and Jets boards. As coy as all the other GM's, nobody is playing their cards. And if people think that GM's are going to base their picks to stop another team from getting that player, then they need a reality check. I dont see it. Maybe im wrong. I think the NY media has a pretty good grasp on what the Jets want and are going to do. The Giants are the true wildcard of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Mat68 said: I dont see it. Maybe im wrong. I think the NY media has a pretty good grasp on what the Jets want and are going to do. The Giants are the true wildcard of the draft. Of course they are the wildcard, they don't "need" a QB. All the writers for every team is doing is trying for clicks, plain and simple. The NY media is scrambling like everyone else. They know about as much as you and I know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 All i have seen is the Jets wanting Mayfield or Rosen. Either/or plays well into us trading up to 5 if Browns take Allen and Giants take Barkley to get Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I call BS. Beane will do what he thinks he has to to get his guy. No holds barred. Nothing is off the table(except Bills fans in September) till draft night. 26 minutes ago, dezertbill said: All i have seen is the Jets wanting Mayfield or Rosen. Either/or plays well into us trading up to 5 if Browns take Allen and Giants take Barkley to get Darnold. No Darnold. He's the anti tyrod.I get it. Rosen is by far the superior talent. Can read, diagnose, and deliver any ball necessary to succeed in the NFL. I don't won't 15+ ints. We need a cerebral assassin...enter the Rosen one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 12 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I remember reading this one year ago today too. Y'all keep forgetting we now have a coach and process that finally got the players to BILLIEVE. I don't see that going anywhere. AND we removed our biggest hurdle in advancing in the playoffs I fully expect that pick to be #32 next year. Yup, we heard last year that it looked like a high pick, and it did. It was completely impossible to see how very easy our schedule would be, not to mention that even the good teams we played would be right in the middle of streaks of horrible play. We did indeed get very lucky last year. And it could happen again. The law of averages says it's pretty unlikely, though. And even our coaches have put out warning signals about how we might have problems next year. I'd certainly love to be picking #32. I hope you're right. Wouldn't bet my rent on it, though. Or even $10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I still think the first 3 picks will be: 1) Darnold 2) Barkley 3) Rosen or Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Nice. I killed this rumor 6 weeks ago. We're not getting the 5th pick either. We're staying still at number 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Nice. I killed this rumor 6 weeks ago. We're not getting the 5th pick either. We're staying still at number 12. How do you know they're staying at 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I can't see them staying at 12 with the QB need as great as it is, coupled with last years pass. It would be a curious decision, given what they've done to this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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