FluffHead Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 JPP and a fourth for a third and a fourth. Perhaps a small blow to our trade up chances. Schefter says they may now consider drafting Chubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago More Another blockbuster trade: Giants trading DE Jason Pierre-Paul and a 2018 fourth-round pick to Buccaneers for a 2018 third-round pick and a fourth-round pick, source tells ESPN. this might impact our chances of trading up if they already have an extra 3rd round pick. they might want Chubb as a replacement so they will need to stay in the top 5 to ensure that. but my hope is they are conceding that they will not be selecting a QB so the smart move is to trade down Edited March 22, 2018 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Wow this is an unexpected move. There's been much speculation that Gettleman may be In win now mode. This transaction contradicts that narrative Edited March 22, 2018 by Finkle Is Einhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) If I did a mock, which I don’t because they’re dumb, I’d put Chubb going at 2. And that was before this trade. Because drafting for need is also dumb. Unless it’s a QB. Edited March 22, 2018 by Jay_Fixit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hmmm.... Maybe they'd want Hughes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago More The #Bucs are trading for #Giants pass-rusher Jason Pierre-Paul, source confirms (as @AdamSchefter said). Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 4m4 minutes ago More Now that the Giants have traded Jason Pierre-Paul to the Buccaneers, maybe they consider Bradley Chubb at No. 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: Wow this is an unexpected move. There's been much speculation that Gettleman may be In win now mode. This transaction contradicts that narrative Or they need cap space desperately 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Should have been a 3rd and 5th representing the number of fingers he has on each hand. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Yolo what was the cap hit for JPP and how did kdigzz break this news before you Edited March 22, 2018 by Finkle Is Einhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Dang, I dont like them acquiring picks. That means they need ours less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So the Bills have to move up to #4 before they can again move up to #2...sounds easy and cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: Yolo what was the cap hit for JPP and how did kdigzz break this news before you and high level meetings! Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Dang, I dont like them acquiring picks. That means they need ours less. They only got one 3rd. They swapped 4ths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks for the memories, JPP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFan2313 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just freeing up space for Shady.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BrooklynBills Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 They are moving to 34 defense. JPP is not a fit as 34 LB. They need lots of pieces on defense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HumbleAndHungry Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) OK Yolo hear me out. Putting Salary cap numbers aside, could the Giants making this move be indicative of a trade offer the bills have on the table which would include Jerry Hughes. Jerry Hughes Is around 10 million against cap correct? So the cap Numbers would be a wash. They are both 29 years old so age isnt factor. But of the Giants knew they could net two decent draft picks for JPP, with the knowledge that they would just be replacing him with Jerry Hughes it could make sense as part of a trade up package Edited March 22, 2018 by Finkle Is Einhorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Finkle Is Einhorn said: OK Yolo hear me out. Putting Salary cap numbers aside, could the Giants making this move be indicative of a trade offer the bills have on the table which would include Jerry Hughes. Jerry Hughes Is around 10 million against cap correct? So the cap Numbers would be a wash. They are both 29 years old so age isnt factor. But of the Giants knew they could net two decent draft picks for JPP, with the knowledge that they would just be replacing him with Jerry Hughes it could make sense Nah I think Hughes is a better fit in a 4-3 but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) at first i was upset by this news, but now that i am examining the details this might be a good thing. they only received a 3rd so that's not enough to disuade them from trading back and collecting more picks. also, by trading him they are saying we are going to get the right pieces to fit our 3-4 defense in the draft so they will want more picks to be able to do so. at the very least, it says that they checked out the QB's and after doing so they have decided that it will not be high on their priority list so they will be addressing other areas of need and this is the first move in doing so. Edited March 22, 2018 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 HOW DO I DIGEST THIS?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bills Juggernaut Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So many ways to look at this...... Opens up another hole in a team that is full of holes. An additional 3rd rounder won't get you an impact-full DE that can pressure the QB unless they get lucky. Opens up the possibility of moving down drafting an impact-full DE like Marcus Davenport at 12 (a younger, cheaper Jason Pierre-Paul), and still have another 1st with Bills pick 22, 2 seconds, and now 3 thirds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: Just freeing up space for Shady.... This may be the case.. But Hughes or Lawson as well Edited March 22, 2018 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if Barkley falls to Jets I wonder if they take him or not. And hope for Bridgewater to get healthy. To me this trade helps Bill's increase to trade up. But IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 This is not necessarily bad news for Buffalo. If they did it for Chubb it means we can rule out them either taking a QB or trading out to someone else that wants one. So Darnold goes 1 and Chubb 2. It really wouldn't shock me to see the Jets go Allen at 3. I'd think Browns would either be open for trade or go Barkley at 4. This all drops Nelson to the Broncos at 5 and they possible go Mike White or Falk or Lauletta later on. That would put Indy at 6 without a chance at Chubb, possibly open for business far cheaper than getting to 2 where we can move for Rosen if he's the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 i know a lot of people are now saying Chubb is their target but how about Marcus Davenport who should be available at 12? stand up DE who would fit a 3-4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 In Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, TheBeane said: Hmmm.... Maybe they'd want Hughes? This is the first thing that came to mind when I read this post. I would hate to lose Hughes because I think he is top pass rusher but we need to lighten the blow for moving up to the 2nd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Shaq lawson is a better fit in a 3-4 no? also has a low cap hit, maybe he is involved in the trade up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Sounds like the Bucs could use some pics for that 7th. Then move up to 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Shaq lawson is a better fit in a 3-4 no? also has a low cap hit, maybe he is involved in the trade up I actually think he’s Better in a 4-3 but still, decent idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Thanks for the attempt at optimism. I have been very pessimistic since the Jets trade up and remain so. #12 is huge problem to overcome with a limited number of Elite prospects at the top. scenarios I don't like: 1. Darnold goes first, Rosen second, Mayfield third we are !@#$ed with the guys who could play soon. 2. Darnold, Barkley goes 2, Rosen goes 3, Chubb to Browns, Mayfield to Broncos 3.Darnold, Chubb, Rosen, Barkley, Mayfield I think we are big trouble unless you want Allen perhaps. I don't this high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 My Current Offer: #12, #22, #56, #96, Shaq Lawson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Now rumors that the Jets and Giants might flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I actually think he’s Better in a 4-3 but still, decent idea Ah maybe I had it backwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, kdiggz said: i know a lot of people are now saying Chubb is their target but how about Marcus Davenport who should be available at 12? stand up DE who would fit a 3-4 You might have nailed that....They can have Shaq as well Edited March 22, 2018 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Has JPP been anything for the last few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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