Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Seasons1992 said: Article is more than 1 year old. Non-pertinent to this upcoming season. I belive the article is current, but he believes it’s 2017? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: This reminds me of that time when Bill Walsh told Marv that Trent Edwards was the next Montana. Sad, but true and our FO bought it hook, line and sinker. Aye Carumba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Bill Polish has dementia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sky Diver = Savior McCarron which explains why the thread was created. At least it is an actual reference to an existing person and story. No un-named source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: McCarron isn't afraid to let it go and throw into tight windows. Can't wait to see what he can do. Hopefully they build a decent OL around him. He's a highly confident guy with a gunslinger mentality. This is just it. The Bills have brought in so many QB prospects over the last 20 years, only to surround them with hot garbage. Nobody cares what I think but I'd see the Bills trade down, get more picks, revamp the O-Line, get a couple serviceable WR's and a LB or two, then have at it. Surround AJM with the tools he needs to be more than a game manager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Putin said: Let me ask you this !! ( example ) if we knew today that AJ McCarrone could be Alex Smith 2.0 would you still want to move up to get a QB or just use all our picks to build around him ?? If your goal is to be respectable then you would be comfortable with McCarron as your long-term starter. If you have higher aspirations then you would aggressively pursue a more talented qb who can go beyond managing an offense and make plays. If you look at the teams that are your standard serious teams for the most part (not always) they have upper echelon qbs. Last year, the Bills eked into a wild-card playoff game. That isn't what you should be striving for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, dorquemada said: This is just it. The Bills have brought in so many QB prospects over the last 20 years, only to surround them with hot garbage. Nobody cares what I think but I'd see the Bills trade down, get more picks, revamp the O-Line, get a couple serviceable WR's and a LB or two, then have at it. Surround AJM with the tools he needs to be more than a game manager He played like a game manager when he had all of those tools in CIN with AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Maohamed Sanu, and Tyler Eifert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Fwiw, Polian stated last week on NFL live that he would take Barkley with #1 pick. Some, such as McShay disagreed. I'd take any of the top 4 QBs over McCarron in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Because he doesnt think Lamar Jackson is good? He said Manziel should've went first overall. His biggest reason for Lamar not being a QB was size, the guy who is taller and heavier than the prospect he prefers, Baker. He had 10 years of absolute horrific drafting before the Colts realized football was past his time. Me, you, your grandma, Uncle, and both our cousins could've picked Manning and Luck #1 overall. Polian has had multiple HOF QBs yet was only able to muster up one SB win. His opinion is about as good as Chip Kelly's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: McCarron isn't afraid to let it go and throw into tight windows. Can't wait to see what he can do. Hopefully they build a decent OL around him. He's a highly confident guy with a gunslinger mentality. Slow your roll. this sounds very familiar The majority of McCarron’s passes in the NFL so far came over his three starts at the end of the 2015 season. Over that stretch, the Bengals beat the 49ers and Ravens, each of whom finished 5-11, and lost in overtime to the eventual Super Bowl-champion Broncos. McCarron completed 54 of his 83 passes (65.1 percent) over that stretch with four touchdowns and no interceptions. That may look impressive and was good enough for a 100.1 passer rating as a starter, but the problem was that the Bengals’ offense slowed to a crawl. He averaged just 184 passing yards in those games, stalling an offense that averaged 376.9 yards in Dalton’s 13 starts. With McCarron at the helm for the final three games, Cincinnati averaged 276 yards and couldn’t top 300. That continued into the postseason, where the Bengals lost 18-16 to the Steelers and were outgained 369 yards to 279. Even during McCarron’s days at Alabama, he had a reputation as a game manager who leaned on a strong running game and an NFL-caliber cast around him. Hoping he can generate offense on his own and lead a team to points with his arm may be too much to ask. https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/13/17020272/aj-mccarron-nfl-free-agency-2018-cincinnati-bengals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sky Diver = Savior McCarron which explains why the thread was created. why the need to make it personal? climb up over the curb and address the argument at hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: why the need to make it personal? climb up over the curb and address the argument at hand. There's nothing personal in that. He's gung ho about AJM. Why so serious? Edited March 20, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: There's nothing personal in that. He's gung ho about AJM. Why so serious? perhaps your right, my bad. nothing derogatory there. still working the first cupajoe this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He played like a game manager when he had all of those tools in CIN with AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Maohamed Sanu, and Tyler Eifert. he played in a system designed around Dalton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, dorquemada said: he played in a system designed around Dalton. He played under Hue Jackson who likes him and knows his strengths and weaknesses very well. No excuses for what he is and how he performed which wasn't bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: perhaps your right, my bad. nothing derogatory there. still working the first cupajoe this morning. He's annoyed for some reason that the Bills signed a QB with a lot of potential at a bargain basement price. He's been stalking me with derogatory comments like the one above because I think that McCarron will exceed expectations. It's all very odd and bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Super Bowl champion (XLI) (2009) Grey Cup champion 6× NFL Executive of the Year (1988, 1991, 1995, 1996, 1999, 2009) Buffalo Bills Wall of Fame inductee (2012) Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee (2015) Indianapolis Colts Ring of Honor inductee (2017) His resume is so unimpressive I don't believe we can take anything he says seriously. I'm not sure why we ever did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Sky Diver said: AJ was a steal. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2017/2/20/14666096/bill-polian-aj-mccarron-quarterback-2017-nfl-draft-prospects-49ers Polian speaks!!! CHAMPIONSHIP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Sky Diver said: He's annoyed for some reason that the Bills signed a QB with a lot of potential at a bargain basement price. He's been stalking me with derogatory comments like the one above because I think that McCarron will exceed expectations. It's all very odd and bizarre. there's a lot of negativity on this board because people are dumb and were vested in a particular FA QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: He's annoyed for some reason that the Bills signed a QB with a lot of potential at a bargain basement price. He's been stalking me with derogatory comments like the one above because I think that McCarron will exceed expectations. It's all very odd and bizarre. You have been quoting my posts in various threads, but I'm stalking you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 I like Peterman and McCarron, but we clearly need to draft a QB. I just don't think we should bet the farm on one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Hurricane said: Can't listen to anything he says these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Is it just me or does Bill seem like he is just suffering fools when he is on TV. He seems like he is seething with contempt the whole time. I think the guy would be a pain in the ass at this point to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, foreboding said: Is it just me or does Bill seem like he is just suffering fools when he is on TV. He seems like he is seething with contempt the whole time. I think the guy would be a pain in the ass at this point to work with. He's always been like that, which is why he tends to wear out his welcome wherever he goes, despite the fact that he has done a great job at each landing spot. We all know the real reason he was forced out of Buffalo... Edited March 20, 2018 by 2003Contenders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said: He's always been like that, which is why he tends to wear out his welcome wherever he goes, despite the fact that he has done a great job at each landing spot. We all know the real reason he was forced out of Buffalo... Ralph is Cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SmokinES3 said: Super Bowl champion (XLI) (2009) Grey Cup champion 6× NFL Executive of the Year (1988, 1991, 1995, 1996, 1999, 2009) Buffalo Bills Wall of Fame inductee (2012) Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee (2015) Indianapolis Colts Ring of Honor inductee (2017) His resume is so unimpressive I don't believe we can take anything he says seriously. I'm not sure why we ever did... Don't forget the job he did with expansion Carolina ... I don't understand the Polian hate, some people just do not respect age and wisdom. Polian has a opinion, he is clearly on the entertainment side of the business now and he might be wrong, so what. The phrase "the game has passed him by" is nonsense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob in STL said: Don't forget the job he did with expansion Carolina ... I don't understand the Polian hate, some people just do not respect age and wisdom. Polian has a opinion, he is clearly on the entertainment side of the business now and he might be wrong, so what. The phrase "the game has passed him by" is nonsense. Again, if he said that the Bills should do whatever is necessary to get to the top to get one of the QBs cause they are worth it, everyone would be talking about his genius. Say something opposite what they want to hear and he is an old senile coot who has no idea what he is talking about and the games past him by, and he was never that great anyway...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Putin said: Let me ask you this !! ( example ) if we knew today that AJ McCarrone could be Alex Smith 2.0 would you still want to move up to get a QB or just use all our picks to build around him ?? This is a moot question. AJ McCarron is a fifth round pick. Alex Smith is a 1st round pick. Teams carry this differently so they are not the same. I am rooting for McCarron but you were trying to say there circumstances are the same and they definitely are not. Alex Smith was the 1st QB taken that year and has all the intangible qualities you draft a QB in that position. You could argue Rosen is in that position right now. 47 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Again, if he said that the Bills should do whatever is necessary to get to the top to get one of the QBs cause they are worth it, everyone would be talking about his genius. Say something opposite what they want to hear and he is an old senile coot who has no idea what he is talking about and the games past him by, and he was never that great anyway...... McCarron probably is better than the 2017 draft. 2018, I would say Rosen and Baker have better stats but who has a record like McCarron, 36-4 two Championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: This is a moot question. AJ McCarron is a fifth round pick. Alex Smith is a 1st round pick. Teams carry this differently so they are not the same. I am rooting for McCarron but you were trying to say there circumstances are the same and they definitely are not. Alex Smith was the 1st QB taken that year and has all the intangible qualities you draft a QB in that position. You could argue Rosen is in that position right now. McCarron probably is better than the 2017 draft. 2018, I would say Rosen and Baker have better stats but who has a record like McCarron, 36-4 two Championships. What diffrence does it make what round who was taken ? Was Alex Smith worthy of the 1st overall pick ? Maybe given a chance AJ can have even a better career/ production then Alex Smith , we just don’t know ( yet ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'd imagine he can at least match the 156 passing yards a game we have become used to. Was going to say sack #'s will probably skyrocket. Didn't realize Tyrod was sacked 46 times last year. So I hope skyrocketing isn't possible or it's going to be brutal. Tyrod's sack #'s went up every year he was here...wonder why that was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: Again, if he said that the Bills should do whatever is necessary to get to the top to get one of the QBs cause they are worth it, everyone would be talking about his genius. Say something opposite what they want to hear and he is an old senile coot who has no idea what he is talking about and the games past him by, and he was never that great anyway...... I agree that they should draft a top qb prospect this year if they can do it, no one knows what McCarron will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Putin said: Why the man got pretty impressive resume Yeah but he's pretty out of touch with the game and players of the current era. Plus, he has a reputation as a massive pr*ck to work with. Evidently just a miserable guy and his mood would permeate the entire office. People always felt like they were walking on eggshells around him. This is just a theory of my own but I actually think it was the Pegula's who ultimately decided NOT to hire him as their "football czar" after meeting with him and likely hearing how he would want to run things and also seeing just how out of touch he is with the current era. I say this because since then, he hasn't had the nicest or most informed things to say about the Bills. I think it was just before the 2017 season that he referred to the Bills OL as "aging and unathletic" and this was after they had led the league in rushing in '15 & '16. For the record, I'm not concerned about the media spinning negativity about the Bills, I just kinda feel like maybe Polian was really on board to be "the czar" here and after the Pegula's got to know him a little better they were like, "Eh, thanks but no thanks. You can say that you declined our offer if that makes you feel better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Putin said: Why the man got pretty impressive resume So does Don Shula and Lou Saban but they would fail in todays NFL also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I tend to agree with this. He has as much potential as any of the rookies, all of whom have some flaws. Which is why I am not anxious to pay the price to move up to two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 To be clear, this was a statement about the 2017 draft QBs (Trubisky, Mahomes, Watson, etc.) NOT the 2018 QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wagon Circler said: I tend to agree with this. He has as much potential as any of the rookies, all of whom have some flaws. Which is why I am not anxious to pay the price to move up to two. That is simply not the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He played under Hue Jackson who likes him and knows his strengths and weaknesses very well. No excuses for what he is and how he performed which wasn't bad at all. I don't see how Hugh Jackson liking McCarron or not (he does) has anything to do with designing an offense to play to his strengths. Daboll coached for Saban and McCarron played for Saban. I am sure that Daboll has a lot of inside info on McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Sky Diver said: AJ was a steal. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2017/2/20/14666096/bill-polian-aj-mccarron-quarterback-2017-nfl-draft-prospects-49ers Russ Brandon was actually more successful at drafting than Bill Polian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Russ Brandon was actually more successful at drafting than Bill Polian He was hired in 1997. The Bills SB run was 1990 - 1993. Polian was the GM of the Bills from 1986 - 1992. He built the SB teams. Edited March 20, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Sky Diver said: AJ was a steal. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2017/2/20/14666096/bill-polian-aj-mccarron-quarterback-2017-nfl-draft-prospects-49ers He has lost is mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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