bkep32 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just playing scenarios here and still hope we move up to get a qb. But what if OBD thinks price is too steep to move up to #1 or #2 to get ahead of jets. I dont think its to bad staying at 12 and doing something like this. 12. Edmunds or smith - LB 22. Lamar Jackson - QB 53. James Daniels - C 56. Chirstian Kirk - WR 65. Tim Settle - DT I would be really happy with this. Have lamar and aj in camp and battling it out. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I would not mind this either but still want us to trade up for Darnold or Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 take Allen or Mayfield at 12 then the lb at 22 c wr and corner make sense for the next 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 i dotn think allen or mayfeild will be there at 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Give me Rashaan Evans at 12 and Mason Rudolph at 22. Sit Rudolph down behind McCarron for the next 2 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Give me Rashaan Evans at 12 and Mason Rudolph at 22. Sit Rudolph down behind McCarron for the next 2 years. Rudolph is a 2nd round talent at best and Evans is bottom of the 1st round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Here is the Top 11 as I currently see it: Browns - Sam Darbold Giants - Saquon Barkley Jets - Josh Rosen Browns - Minkah Fitzpatrick Broncos - Quinten Nelson Colts - Bradley Chubb Buccaneers - Denzel Ward Bears - Trumaine Edmunds 49ers - Derwin James Raiders - Roquan Smith Dolphins - Vita Vea if this scenario plays out I see no real reason to give up draft capital with needs at MLB, OL, WR, CB, to move up higher with Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson available. I would take Allen or Jackson at 12 and hope Leighton Vander Eshe or Rashean Evans is available at 22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Zebrastripes said: Rudolph is a 2nd round talent at best and Evans is bottom of the 1st round talent. Maybe you should form your own opinions rather than reading what Walter football says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Mayfield at 12. Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If we’re staying put at 12, and Darnold, Rosen and mayfield are gone, I’d draft Luke Falk in the 3rd round. We can get quality starters with our first and second round picks. But I’m also a mad man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Maybe you should form your own opinions rather than reading what Walter football says. Smith and Edmunds are in a league of their own at the LB position and 1 of them will be there at 12. Evans is a good player don't get me wrong. There will just be better talent on the board still at 12. Rudolph is a system qb that is going to need a lot of coaching at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just get "your" guy, Beane. If you have to trade up to 2, then do that. If you can get him at 12, then stay...but just get your guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Zebrastripes said: Smith and Edmunds are in a league of their own at the LB position and 1 of them will be there at 12. Evans is a good player don't get me wrong. There will just be better talent on the board still at 12. Rudolph is a system qb that is going to need a lot of coaching at the next level. Rashaan Evans is the best LB in the draft, I don't care where mock drafts have him rated. Mason Rudolph may be a 2nd round prospect as well, but look how much the Jets gave up for #3. That pick is worth 2,200 and the Jets gave up 2,900. They overdrafted the living hell out of whichever QB they draft, so who cares if we draft an early 2nd round prospect at 22? QBs always get overdrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 In that scenario I'd rade up to #9 and take Roquon Smith - We give SF #96 and #121, they give us back #184. This ensures we get him before the Raiders at #10. We have our Luke Keuchly. Then I'd use 22 on Jackson or Rudolph. We're still have both 2nds and a 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is the Top 11 as I currently see it: Browns - Sam Darbold Giants - Saquon Barkley Jets - Josh Rosen Browns - Minkah Fitzpatrick Broncos - Quinten Nelson Colts - Bradley Chubb Buccaneers - Denzel Ward Bears - Trumaine Edmunds 49ers - Derwin James Raiders - Roquan Smith Dolphins - Vita Vea if this scenario plays out I see no real reason to give up draft capital with needs at MLB, OL, WR, CB, to move up higher with Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson available. I would take Allen or Jackson at 12 and hope Leighton Vander Eshe or Rashean Evans is available at 22 Agree with this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I believe McCarron is a better bet than Allen, Mayfield, Jackson or Rudolph, so if Rosen and Darnold are out of reach, stay at 12, go to work on the linebackers, WRs and Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If we stay at 12 im not drafting a QB. I like Jackson but this staff wants a pocket passer. Use the 9 picks to strengthen the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 One of two things happened with this Jets trade: 1. The Colts valued #6 over anything Buffalo could offer. This probably only makes sense if they badly want Chubb/Barkley still or if they think they'll be able to trade down again from #6 to to get even more assets 2. The Bills didn't want to move up to #3. This would seem to imply that they have a smaller move up in their plans, though I guess the idea of jumping up to #2 can't be completely written off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 In the 2nd round I would hope that we could draft Maurice Hurst at 3 technique DT, nice future replacement for KW and may fall due to health issues at the combine. With the 2nd pick in the second round I hope the DJ Chark is still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I think Buffalo could get 1 of Mayfiled, Allen, or JAckson at 12. i assume they would flop a sec or third to ensure they get one and move up a few spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: In the 2nd round I would hope that we could draft Maurice Hurst at 3 technique DT, nice future replacement for KW and may fall due to health issues at the combine. With the 2nd pick in the second round I hope the DJ Chark is still available. I dont think hurst will be available late 2nd rnd. I would love him to but drafting back end of 2 hurts our chances. I would like a rb also...maybe instead of kirk at 56 maybe penny would be available im not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Calvin Ridley is going to become everybody's favorite Buffalo Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) Truthfully no other position matters to the Bills right now. Its QB and only QB. This Bills team has drafted numerous top 10 players. McKelvin, Gilmore, Maybin. We drafted great in later rounds at time, Kyle Williams, Preston Brown, Glenn, We found un drafted guys like Freddie Jackson, and Robey.....And we never made the playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go back to 2001. Would you trade the Buffalo Bills ENTIRE STARTING LINEUP for Tom Brady? Or Drew Brees? Or Rodgers? Yes, you would!!!!! Face it! We have one hole on this team. ONE. Its QUARTERBACK. An all pro QB is worth 21 other starters. Trade every pick we have in this draft for #1 and Taken Rosen. His floor is Matt Ryan. His Ceiling in Brady. Every other QB is a bust or an Andy Dalton. Edited March 17, 2018 by peterpan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Rashaan Evans is the best LB in the draft, I don't care where mock drafts have him rated. Mason Rudolph may be a 2nd round prospect as well, but look how much the Jets gave up for #3. That pick is worth 2,200 and the Jets gave up 2,900. They overdrafted the living hell out of whichever QB they draft, so who cares if we draft an early 2nd round prospect at 22? QBs always get overdrafted. I take it you're an Alabama fan. Smith is way better then Evans but hey to each their own. I wouldn't draft Rudolph in round 1 because there is a good chance he will be there in the second round and if not I don't think the talent between him and Falk are much different and Falk could definitely be had in later rounds. Rudolph only put up gaudy numbers because of the system. Edited March 17, 2018 by Zebrastripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 34 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Give me Rashaan Evans at 12 and Mason Rudolph at 22. Sit Rudolph down behind McCarron for the next 2 years. F——— Mason Rudolph! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is the Top 11 as I currently see it: Browns - Sam Darbold Giants - Saquon Barkley Jets - Josh Rosen Browns - Minkah Fitzpatrick Broncos - Quinten Nelson Colts - Bradley Chubb Buccaneers - Denzel Ward Bears - Trumaine Edmunds 49ers - Derwin James Raiders - Roquan Smith Dolphins - Vita Vea if this scenario plays out I see no real reason to give up draft capital with needs at MLB, OL, WR, CB, to move up higher with Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson available. I would take Allen or Jackson at 12 and hope Leighton Vander Eshe or Rashean Evans is available at 22 I would bet every single asset I own this will not he how it shakes out. 4 QB’s are going with the first 4 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Zebrastripes said: I take it you're an Alabama fan. Smith is way better then Evans but hey to each their own. I wouldn't draft Rudolph in round 1 because there is a good chance he will be there in the second round and if not I don't think the talent between him and Falk are much different and Falk could definitely be had in later rounds. Rudolph only put up gayest numbers because of the system. I'm not a Bama fan per se, but I do admire some of the prospects they've put out over the years. Forget where mocks have these guys rated, forget what the talking heads think. Every year there are guys that were rated as late 1st round picks that in hindsight we look back and ask ourselves, why wasn't this guy drafted earlier? Does it really matter if you take a guy 10-15 picks earlier than he was projected? I think Rashaan Evans is going to be a top 3 LB in the NFL. He is more explosive and violent than Smith and Edmunds. This guy would make a weak area on our team a strength. Evans is going to be an elite LB at the next level. As far as Rudolph goes, do you really want to take that chance as far as waiting until the 2nd goes? He is a really solid prospect, I could see him going at the very top of the 2nd round, why not just draft him 10 spots higher than where he'll go? He has the potential to be a very solid starter, who cares where mock drafts have him going? QBs always get overdrafted, once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I'm not a Bama fan per se, but I do admire some of the prospects they've put out over the years. Forget where mocks have these guys rated, forget what the talking heads think. Every year there are guys that were rated as late 1st round picks that in hindsight we look back and ask ourselves, why wasn't this guy drafted earlier? Does it really matter if you take a guy 10-15 picks earlier than he was projected? I think Rashaan Evans is going to be a top 3 LB in the NFL. He is more explosive and violent than Smith and Edmunds. This guy would make a weak area on our team a strength. Evans is going to be an elite LB at the next level. As far as Rudolph goes, do you really want to take that chance as far as waiting until the 2nd goes? He is a really solid prospect, I could see him going at the very top of the 2nd round, why not just draft him 10 spots higher than where he'll go? He has the potential to be a very solid starter, who cares where mock drafts have him going? QBs always get overdrafted, once again. I'm not looking at mocks of these guys and basing my opinion on that. If smith or Edmunds is there at 12 I'd rather have them over Evans. I just don't see a Rudolph being a solid NFL starter. Too many times a QB like Rudolph gets drafted and just doesn't do anything in the NFL. I see Rudolph and Falk close to being on the same level and I think Falk will be there in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 For the poster who said 4 QB's are going in the first 4 picks, who is going to trade up to 4 with Cleveland and specify the team and what they would give up. Something to keep in mind, know the market, the draft capital, current team needs post free agency before you make a post that makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: I'm not looking at mocks of these guys and basing my opinion on that. If smith or Edmunds is there at 12 I'd rather have them over Evans. I just don't see a Rudolph being a solid NFL starter. Too many times a QB like Rudolph gets drafted and just doesn't do anything in the NFL. I see Rudolph and Falk close to being on the same level and I think Falk will be there in the 3rd round. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I'd hold as well. But ain't it fun to play the slot machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Give me Rashaan Evans at 12 and Mason Rudolph at 22. Sit Rudolph down behind McCarron for the next 2 years. I could get on board with this. I think Rudolph could be pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bkep32 said: Just playing scenarios here and still hope we move up to get a qb. But what if OBD thinks price is too steep to move up to #1 or #2 to get ahead of jets. I dont think its to bad staying at 12 and doing something like this. 12. Edmunds or smith - LB 22. Lamar Jackson - QB 53. James Daniels - C 56. Chirstian Kirk - WR 65. Tim Settle - DT I would be really happy with this. Have lamar and aj in camp and battling it out. Trade up to 1 or 2... which is where you have to be in order to insure getting one of Darnold or Rosen IMO... is going to cost you 3 or 4 of those names in the quote. Sure there are several good quarterback prospects coming out this year... but there also seems to be an unusually large number of teams willing to do almost anything to get one of the top 3 or 4. I might sit right where we are and take Jackson if I'm making the decision... you still get a quality QB prospect to develop behind McCarron... but retain the chance to plug multiple holes on the roster as well. I'm probably preferring this approach because I'd really rather have Jackson than Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is the Top 11 as I currently see it: Browns - Sam Darbold Giants - Saquon Barkley Jets - Josh Rosen Browns - Minkah Fitzpatrick Broncos - Quinten Nelson Colts - Bradley Chubb Buccaneers - Denzel Ward Bears - Trumaine Edmunds 49ers - Derwin James Raiders - Roquan Smith Dolphins - Vita Vea if this scenario plays out I see no real reason to give up draft capital with needs at MLB, OL, WR, CB, to move up higher with Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson available. I would take Allen or Jackson at 12 and hope Leighton Vander Eshe or Rashean Evans is available at 22 Sign me up here as well. Keep the picks. Difference between qb1 and qb4 is negotiable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bkep32 said: Just playing scenarios here and still hope we move up to get a qb. But what if OBD thinks price is too steep to move up to #1 or #2 to get ahead of jets. I dont think its to bad staying at 12 and doing something like this. 12. Edmunds or smith - LB 22. Lamar Jackson - QB 53. James Daniels - C 56. Chirstian Kirk - WR 65. Tim Settle - DT I would be really happy with this. Have lamar and aj in camp and battling it out. I like that..need a rg though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 This post is not about moving up...yes i would much rather have that but if beene and company find it to steep or cant get a deal done, what would u like to have done. Just trying to look at this a different angle since jets blew a load down there leg to move up 3 spots, and every other thread is about moving up to 2 and to go after our franchise qb but im not that sold on any of the 3 being that player either. None of these guys have been talked about like luck or manning was out of college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, McBean said: I would bet every single asset I own this will not he how it shakes out. 4 QB’s are going with the first 4 picks. The Browns are drafting TWO quarterbacks now?? Too bad I don't believe you have an asset to your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Luka said: The Browns are drafting TWO quarterbacks now?? Too bad I don't believe you have an asset to your name. Trade out of 4 jack ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, yungmack said: I believe McCarron is a better bet than Allen, Mayfield, Jackson or Rudolph, so if Rosen and Darnold are out of reach, stay at 12, go to work on the linebackers, WRs and Oline. This is the most cogent and sane response I have read scanning various threads since the Jets made the trade. The sky is not falling! I repeat, the sky is not falling! Every one of the “top four” quarterbacks have significant flaws. None of them are a sure thing à la Andrew luck. In particular I really don’t get all of this love for Mayfield. A pure system quarterback out of a conference that doesn’t play defense. I would take Allen over him if it was between those two. But of the bills really feel like they need to get a quarterback in the first round I would be quite content with either Jackson or rude off. There’s one thing I can guarantee you, the Bills Didn’t get AJ to be a “bridge” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Acquiring the 12th pick was genius, keeping it is just as smart. Unloading the first half of our premier picks and "other picks" for one of the QBs in this draft seems a bit goofy and Ditka-ish. It is curious to me why so many here feel we should overpay for a QB, in a class of QB's that many say is overrated. Yet, this is the beauty of the NFL and message boards like this. We are not the one's making the decisions, thankfully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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