Wo-Bah Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Not so sure getting Richie back with Pouncey is the best idea. Correct. I think that's the kind of culture they're trying to get away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: It’s football. Character Schmaracter. Dareus, Watkins, Seymour, others. Plenty of character we dropped to build a team that got us to the player despite their talent. Character counts when you have to trust those next to you. Pouncey is a good player though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, SmokinES3 said: Probably better than Groy. Richie loves him. Git 'er done. Wait...are there any Asians on the training staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Wo-Bah said: Correct. I think that's the kind of culture they're trying to get away from. Free Hernandez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I have been looking for any kind of official info saying the fish are releasing Pouncey, and I can't find any. Is this just a rumor? I think Miami boxed themselves in by giving Pouncey a contract too big for his value. Same thing the Bills did with Cordy Glenn. But we got value in exchange and the fish would be getting nothing. This doesn't sound solid to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 WOW! Giterdone!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Pricey but proven...it fills a need and would let Groy be the swing OG/C they need. Current Contract Mike Pouncey signed a 5 year, $44,750,000 contract with the Miami Dolphins, including a $5,000,000 signing bonus, $22,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,950,000. In 2018, Pouncey will earn a base salary of $7,975,000 and a workout bonus of $25,000, while carrying a cap hit of $9,000,000 and a dead cap value of $2,000,000. CONTRACT TERMS:5 yr(s) / $44,750,000 SIGNING BONUS$5,000,000 AVERAGE SALARY$8,950,000 GTD AT SIGN:$11,000,000 TOTAL GTD:$22,000,000 FREE AGENT:2021 / UFA BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING WORKOUT CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2015 25 $6,000,000 $1,000,000 - $7,000,000 $11,000,000 $11,000,000($11,000,000) 2016 26 $9,000,000 $1,000,000 $25,000 $10,025,000 $15,025,000 $9,025,000($20,025,000) 2017 27 $7,950,000 $1,000,000 $25,000 $8,975,000 $10,975,000 $7,975,000($28,000,000) POTENTIAL OUT: 2018, 3 YR, $28,000,000; $2,000,000 DEAD CAP 2018 28 $7,975,000 $1,000,000 $25,000 $9,000,000 $2,000,000 $8,000,000($36,000,000) 2019 29 $7,163,000 $1,000,000 $25,000 $8,188,000 $1,000,000 $7,188,000($43,188,000) 2020 30 $8,975,000 - $25,000 $9,000,000 - $9,000,000($52,188,000) 2021 31 UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 But is he any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Not so sure getting Richie back with Pouncey is the best idea. With what they were saying about Martin's mom and sister, i'm not sure I want to even fathom what they would be saying about McCarron's wife and mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Make the call. See if he would be a process lover. If not there is a reason you matched Groys RFA offer last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey admitted that they directed racially derogatory words toward him, including "Jap" and "Chinaman." At times, according to Martin, they referred to the Assistant Trainer as a "dirty communist" or a "North Korean," made demands such as "give me some water you f---g chink," spoke to him in a phony, mocking Asian accent, including asking for "rubby rubby sucky sucky," and called his mother a "rub and tug masseuse." Martin and others informed us that Incognito and Jerry taunted the Assistant Trainer with jokes about having sex with his girlfriend. Incognito admitted that these types of comments were made to the Assistant Trainer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: But is he any good? http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22775721/mike-pouncey-asks-miami-dolphins-release Good: "He's a three-time Pro Bowl selection, earning the honors in three consecutive seasons from 2013-15." Bad: "Last season, Pouncey played his first 16-game season since 2012. He was coming off back-to-back seasons of major hip surgery but didn't show any effects of the injuries in 2018." Yikes!: "It was reported in the previous year that Pouncey will eventually need hip replacement surgery, so the Dolphins probably thought it was better to move on sooner rather than later." https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/15/report-dolphins-have-granted-mike-pouncey-his-release-request/ Edited March 15, 2018 by Lurker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Groy can play RG. I think Miller is going to have a really nice rebound year...in the power scheme he was quite good. PFF and others did some metrics / analytics, he was good. Last year's zone scheme was a not fit for him, but with Daboll I think he does well again. But, no doubt the Bills need to fill that turnstile at RT position! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, CJY2k said: This dude is an aaron Hernandez Junkie No thank you Wow. One post...and you're gone. Impressive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny3410 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 39 minutes ago, njbuff said: No thank you to Pouncey, But Dolphins are on track to be the worst team in the NFL in 2018. Agree with you on both accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey admitted that they directed racially derogatory words toward him, including "Jap" and "Chinaman." At times, according to Martin, they referred to the Assistant Trainer as a "dirty communist" or a "North Korean," made demands such as "give me some water you f---g chink," spoke to him in a phony, mocking Asian accent, including asking for "rubby rubby sucky sucky," and called his mother a "rub and tug masseuse." Martin and others informed us that Incognito and Jerry taunted the Assistant Trainer with jokes about having sex with his girlfriend. Incognito admitted that these types of comments were made to the Assistant Trainer. Dude my ribs are hurting from laughing so hard!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Pouncey hasn't been very good lately...why exactly do people want him based on the past couple years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 offer a 7th rounder in trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, papazoid said: offer a 7th rounder in trade to who? He's been released.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, PIP said: Dude my ribs are hurting from laughing so hard!! You like that huh? Richie should meet your sister then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: He hasn't been playing well for a while now. No thanks. That was my question; if he's still playing at a high level. If not, there seem to be a lot of good interior linemen in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 .... walk on by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJY2k Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, Lurker said: Wow. One post...and you're gone. Impressive... It's called school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey admitted that they directed racially derogatory words toward him, including "Jap" and "Chinaman." At times, according to Martin, they referred to the Assistant Trainer as a "dirty communist" or a "North Korean," made demands such as "give me some water you f---g chink," spoke to him in a phony, mocking Asian accent, including asking for "rubby rubby sucky sucky," and called his mother a "rub and tug masseuse." Martin and others informed us that Incognito and Jerry taunted the Assistant Trainer with jokes about having sex with his girlfriend. Incognito admitted that these types of comments were made to the Assistant Trainer. Sounds like middle school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I've heard of him. GIT'R'DUN!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Could go either way, would not mind them drafting their C replacement for Wood with 1 of the 2nd rd picks or 1 of the 3rd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: to who? He's been released.. pretty sure it hasn't happened yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSol Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Not the same player he was, also a DBAG. Pass Edited March 15, 2018 by BuffaloSol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: wonder if he goes to PIT to play with his brother. I can't see his attitude being a good fit w/ McD. 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: Dudes a joke and a POS. Not terrible, but maybe not the character we need here. Can you gents fill me in on the attitude issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Dolphins just traded for SF Center Kilgore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Prelude to the release of Pouncey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, BuffaloSol said: Not the same player he was, also a DBAG. Pass To be fair, the same thing could be said about Richie. He's been great for us, but was even better earlier in his career. And he's just as much a character issue as Pouncey. What Pouncy is NOT is healthy. Any guy that needs a hip replacement is not someone you sink a lot of money into... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Lurker said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22775721/mike-pouncey-asks-miami-dolphins-release Good: "He's a three-time Pro Bowl selection, earning the honors in three consecutive seasons from 2013-15." Bad: "Last season, Pouncey played his first 16-game season since 2012. He was coming off back-to-back seasons of major hip surgery but didn't show any effects of the injuries in 2018." Yikes!: "It was reported in the previous year that Pouncey will eventually need hip replacement surgery, so the Dolphins probably thought it was better to move on sooner rather than later." https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/15/report-dolphins-have-granted-mike-pouncey-his-release-request/ OK now that scares me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 All I think of when I see this moron is him and his brother wearing free Aaron Hernandez shirts. He does not fit the mold of people were bringing in. He’s good but i’ll pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 no thanks this guy has been terrible and injured a lot the past few years. Better off with Groy It would be nice to see him and RI back together, maybe call up Martin for a try out , after he gets outta jail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Good depth for the right price 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: to who? He's been released.. Offer it to Pouncey directly obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: I think Miller is going to have a really nice rebound year...in the power scheme he was quite good. PFF and others did some metrics / analytics, he was good. Last year's zone scheme was a not fit for him, but with Daboll I think he does well again. But, no doubt the Bills need to fill that turnstile at RT position! I agree. He didn't get off to a good start with the new staff for whatever reason. You would think after his successful 2nd year he would be named starter entering mini camp, but he was in a battle from the start. I do believe he has talent to be a top OG in the NFL. Hopefully he has a good offseason and comes to camp ready to win the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Can you gents fill me in on the attitude issues? He was part of the bullying issue. He runs his mouth a lot. Got in trouble with the lsw, literally shoving a cop, iirc. Maybe it was his brother. They both tore up Miami in free Hernandez garb. Really seemed to think he dindunuffin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Ramza86 said: What are the fins doing? Next is Tannehill. They just redid his contract to make it more cap friendly. I don't think he's going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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