Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Really hope the Bills make a show of force and send the whole organization to UCLA for Rosen's Pro Day and then announce the trade tomorrow after they finish taking him to dinner tonight Why would they show their hand like that? Send the same guy to all the pro days and keep it quiet as they can. If you give a big "tell" to the auctioneer you bring up the price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I AM a millennial (an older one), and so is every player in the draft this year. Pointing out Rosen in particular is stupid, because you can make that argument for each and every player out there. "Millenial" has become Boomer code for "I don't understand it, and I don't like it, and it's someone younger, so let's call it a Millenial problem" I agree. I am a boomer who has taught and advised many millenials as a law school prof. and a practicing attorney. To me these broad characterizations of millenials are no different than the ageist characterizations of older people. Each group is a broad array of individuals -- if you're going to judge them, judge them as individuals. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: I imagine that the scouts that we sent to see Mayfield will be at Oklahoma State today to watch Rudolph, Washington, etc. Someone else will be there to watch Rosen. Good point! Though I would think you want the same people watching for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why would they show their hand like that? Send the same guy to all the pro days and keep it quiet as they can. If you give a big "tell" to the auctioneer you bring up the price. Yep, not necessary to have the whole team there like the Broncos did yesterday. Have 1-2 scouts there just to see how things go. If you are interested you will invite him for a pre-draft visit and workout. That's what will be the most telling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why would they show their hand like that? Send the same guy to all the pro days and keep it quiet as they can. If you give a big "tell" to the auctioneer you bring up the price. That's true and I just now remember the Bears sending their whole organization to DeShaun Watson Pro Day last year to throw people off their Trubisky scent http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/237355/nfl-draft-deception-the-art-of-the-smoke-screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, stevewin said: Yeah OK - didn't mean to get all 'get off my lawn' on you (it's been a tough week at work) When I started with IBM (late 80s) you were hired in as non-exempt, which meant you made overtime until you got your first promotion to exempt (no overtime). Was always a huge pay cut when people got that first promotion and lost all the OT. You both have good points. 15 yrs ago I got a contract worker hired on who had made copious overtime (but no benefits)and he pissed and moaned about the paycut. I had to sit him down and add up the present value of his benefits - at the time, a pension AND a copious 401k match, the health and life insurance, etcetera. - to help him feel better about the situation. The worst case is when you're non-exempt and the employer cooks the books to avoid (or outright creates an environment where you don't get) overtime. You don't get the benefits AND you don't get the pay. BTDT in my first job, which resulted in a lawsuit and reclassification of many of us 3 paygrades higher as "exempt". Thing is now, 15 years later, that same exact company has eliminated the pension and cut back the 401k match, because they can. More money for shareholders, less investment in the workforce and in future products. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Thing is now, 15 years later, that same exact company has eliminated the pension and cut back the 401k match, because they can. More money for shareholders, less investment in the workforce and in future products. A lot of companies cutting back on benefits to try and save costs. I wish I could go back in time and max out my 401k. Now working as a contractor you miss those types of extras. 1 hr until the Chosen Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think there are legitimate concerns about Rosen being athletic and big enough to extend plays in NFL. Is he going to be an easy target for NFL pass rushes? Also makes you worry about the concussions. Eli and Brady have quick feet and elite processing ability. I'm not sure if it's athleticism as much as pocket awareness. Biggest flaw I can see in his game. Fwiw, I'd still be thrilled to draft him (but I'd want a legit Oline for him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Ides of March? He’ll ‘Rosen’ his Pro Day, fall in the Draft and we get him without surrending Picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, H2o said: Which reps from the Bills were at Mayfield's Pro Day yesterday? Does anyone know? 5 hours ago, jpsp3434 said: Slowly he is becoming my pick as well. Curious as well who from the Bills will be in attendance today as well as who attended Mayfield's pro day yesterday. I feel that will definitely tell us there motives. Not sure who it was, but I believe it was confirmed that Beane, McDermott, nor Badol were in attendance. Another scout/coach I would assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Rosen is now out on the field talking to people but not yet throwing. Elway/Joseph are there again, skipping the Keenum signing press conference in Denver. Gee, I wonder if they are taking a QB at 5. Haven't heard if any Bills brass are in attendance yet Edited March 15, 2018 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXCOL3 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) waiting to hear which bills brass is there. That warlock of ours B. Beane has to be. Edited March 15, 2018 by JXCOL3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lurker said: ...I automatically think Baby Boomer. As a card-carrying member of that most-selfish generation, it always makes me chuckle when Boomers accuse anyone of being "entitled"... It's even worse than that actually. Boomers have almost single-handedly destroyed the planet and most of its institutions - and their new pastime is to blame Millennials for that destruction. It's bad enough that Millennials have inherited a situation where they have a substantial likelihood of having a lower quality of life than their parents' generation - but to blame them for it, and to mock them for being "checked out" - is really adding insult to injury. Baby Boomers are the most selfish generation that has ever slithered its way across the planet and it's time for them to cede this round rock to the rest of us so that we can start cleaning up their mess. Edited March 15, 2018 by Coach Tuesday 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) All 32 teams represented including: Broncos John Elways, Vance Joseph, Gary Kubiak Chargers HC Anthony Lynn Jets GM Mike McCagnan Bengals HC Marvin Lewis Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff UCLA HC Chip Kelly Edited March 15, 2018 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The Chargers are going to be moving up - they are not messing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: The Chargers are going to be moving up - they are not messing around. Doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) I have NFL Network on but they are airing the Cousins' presser. Is there a live stream of the UCLA pro day out there anywhere? Edited March 15, 2018 by sven233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, sven233 said: I have NFL Network on but they are airing the Cousin's presser. Is there a live stream of the UCLA pro day out there anywhere? He's not throwing yet, they will probably go to it after the presser is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, kdiggz said: He's not throwing yet, they will probably go to it after the presser is done Hope so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Anything yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 NFL Network just said they are going to show him throwing live as soon as he gets going. Sounds like there are over 100 scouts, GMs, and league officials there. All 32 teams represented. I'd like to know who is there from Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 43 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: It's even worse than that actually. Boomers have almost single-handedly destroyed the planet and most of its institutions - and their new pastime is to blame Millennials for that destruction. It's bad enough that Millennials have inherited a situation where they have a substantial likelihood of having a lower quality of life than their parents' generation - but to blame them for it, and to mock them for being "checked out" - is really adding insult to injury. Baby Boomers are the most selfish generation that has ever slithered its way across the planet and it's time for them to cede this round rock to the rest of us so that we can start cleaning up their mess. Wait, you're not a boomer? I always pictured you being ancient 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 In the brief cut to the pro day in between Cousins' press conference, I swear I saw Beane standing on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Rosen throwing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, kdiggz said: Rosen throwing Yup.....and nowhere to watch it live right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'm surprised there isn't more media attention to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Wait, you're not a boomer? I always pictured you being ancient What else do you picture? I'm intrigued... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I'm surprised there isn't more media attention to this March madness + Saints owner dies + Cousins signs with Vikes. That's fine let it fly under the radar so he slides to 3 and into our lap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, kdiggz said: March madness + Saints owner dies + Cousins signs with Vikes. That's fine let it fly under the radar so he slides to 3 and into our lap Something tells me NFL types aren't going to be distracted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: What else do you picture? I'm intrigued... Pretty much this exactly. My brain assigns random faces to people on this board for no reason. When I read your posts I see this: 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 8 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I think all of the first round projections have some warts, but that is what was said about Goff and Wentz. The ones for Rosen are injury history and "he's a millennial", the latter of which is so stupid and lazy I can't believe it. the injury history of concussions scares me. It's why I put Mayfield ahead of him. (Mayfield, Rosen, Darnold). I can see Rosen getting another concussion and calling it quits like Chris Boreland (can't blame him, i'd be his 3rd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 8 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I AM a millennial (an older one), and so is every player in the draft this year. Pointing out Rosen in particular is stupid, because you can make that argument for each and every player out there. "Millenial" has become Boomer code for "I don't understand it, and I don't like it, and it's someone younger, so let's call it a Millenial problem" I'm a Boomer but I have no problem with Millenials. Those that do are simply crotchety curmudgeons who forgot the stupid **** they did and said back in their wilder days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: It's even worse than that actually. Boomers have almost single-handedly destroyed the planet and most of its institutions - and their new pastime is to blame Millennials for that destruction. It's bad enough that Millennials have inherited a situation where they have a substantial likelihood of having a lower quality of life than their parents' generation - but to blame them for it, and to mock them for being "checked out" - is really adding insult to injury. Baby Boomers are the most selfish generation that has ever slithered its way across the planet and it's time for them to cede this round rock to the rest of us so that we can start cleaning up their mess. I think you'd enjoy this book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/disinherited-diana-furchtgott-roth/1120409827?ean=9781594038099 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Pretty much this exactly. My brain assigns random faces to people on this board for no reason. When I read your posts I see this: Hellz yes - he’s a hero of mine for sure. No one says “therrrrrre” as creepily as Bob Ross. 27 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I think you'd enjoy this book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/disinherited-diana-furchtgott-roth/1120409827?ean=9781594038099 Yes. The mainstream political narrative talks in terms of wealth redistribution from rich to poor or vice versa. In reality there has been a massive redistribution underway from young to old for some time now - the Buffalo economy is a prime example of it. But you won’t hear about it because Boomers vote. Once someone figures out how to set up a secure voting app for smartphones - and the corrupt state election boards allow it - you’ll finally start to see real change in this country. By the way - only a Boomer would send a Barnes and Noble link... Edited March 15, 2018 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, kdiggz said: All 32 teams represented including: Broncos John Elways, Vance Joseph, Gary Kubiak Chargers HC Anthony Lynn Jets GM Mike McCagnan Bengals HC Marvin Lewis Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff UCLA HC Chip Kelly I can't stand Elway. I hope we trade up for the guy he wants. Hope it's not Mayfield though.... seriously reminds me of a brat my wife babysat, and I can't root for that. Rosen or Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, PIZ said: I can't stand Elway. I hope we trade up for the guy he wants. Hope it's not Mayfield though.... seriously reminds me of a brat my wife babysat, and I can't root for that. Rosen or Darnold. You won't root for Mayfield but want Rosen. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ittakestime said: You won't root for Mayfield but want Rosen. Wow Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBorBust2018 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: It's even worse than that actually. Boomers have almost single-handedly destroyed the planet and most of its institutions - and their new pastime is to blame Millennials for that destruction. It's bad enough that Millennials have inherited a situation where they have a substantial likelihood of having a lower quality of life than their parents' generation - but to blame them for it, and to mock them for being "checked out" - is really adding insult to injury. Baby Boomers are the most selfish generation that has ever slithered its way across the planet and it's time for them to cede this round rock to the rest of us so that we can start cleaning up their mess. ^ on point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Yep!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just get Rosen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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