Baker Mayfield Should Be the #1 Overall Pick says Sam Monson of PFF

[Mat68]

Idk who Buffalo will rate as there top Qb.  This is one of most skilled crop of Qbs in a very long time.  IMO its the best class since 2004.  You cannot find a scout who will say that if Mayfield was 3 inches taller he would be hands down the best prospect.  He is a good prospect but Rosen, Darnold, and Allen are just as good maybe more upside when projecting to the NFL.  Buffalo needs to figure which one they want and find a way to get them.  If that happens I think everyone would be on board regaurdless of opionion on the prospect.  Rarely does a draft come along with this kind of crop and the draft picks to move to land one.    

[DallasMac]

1 minute ago, Mat68 said:

Idk who Buffalo will rate as there top Qb.  This is one of most skilled crop of Qbs in a very long time.  IMO its the best class since 2004.  You cannot find a scout who will say that if Mayfield was 3 inches taller he would be hands down the best prospect.  He is a good prospect but Rosen, Darnold, and Allen are just as good maybe more upside when projecting to the NFL.  Buffalo needs to figure which one they want and find a way to get them.  If that happens I think everyone would be on board regaurdless of opionion on the prospect.  Rarely does a draft come along with this kind of crop and the draft picks to move to land one.    

Definitely.  Id be happy to get one of the 4 and see what happens.  I'm all for taking the chance with one of these guys.

[transplantbillsfan]

3 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

6 feet tall is a problem

 

And PFF are the ones who rated Tyrod Taylor one below Aaron Rodgers.

 

6' 3/8" is really a problem?

 

The guy just seems to have "IT..." can't teach that.

 

And before anyone brings up Johnny Football... Baker's off field problems seem to be of an immature overly visceral and competitive nature. Very different from Johnny Drinks a Lot

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

From what we have seen on the field, Oklahoma’s Baker Mayfield is the best quarterback in this draft class, and it isn’t particularly close to the second guy.

 

Mayfield owns the best two single-season PFF grades we have seen in four years of college grading and three of the top six seasons.

 

Couldn't agree more , we need to trade up ahead of Denver. He will Love it here and we love him too ... Visions of Superbowls dancing in my head   

 

Edited February 13, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Couldn't agree more , we need to trade up ahead of Denver. He will. Love it here and we love him too ... Visions of Superbowls dancing in my head   

 

Whoa Nelly!

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, DallasMac said:

For every Russel Wilson there are numerous short qbs that aren't successful that were in college.

 

And the NFL is littered with the bodies of big prototypical garbage QB's too.  Means nothing.  

[DallasMac]

33 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

And the NFL is littered with the bodies of big prototypical garbage QB's too.  Means nothing.  

Yes, when a majority of qbs in the nfl are 6ft2 or over there's obviously no correlation btw height and success.  Cmon.  I'm not saying I wouldn't take him but to say it means nothing is ridiculous.

[nedboy7]

PFF sucks until they cater to the reality TT haters live in.  Until then ignore their take on TW as well please. 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, DallasMac said:

Yes, when a majority of qbs in the nfl are 6ft2 or over there's obviously no correlation btw height and success.  Cmon.  I'm not saying I wouldn't take him but to say it means nothing is ridiculous.

 

Point is, a QB is not going to fail JUST because he is 6-0 to 6-1.  If the QB is good, he will succeed at that height and its proven over and over again.

 

Are their advantages to being bigger, sure...but Baker Mayfield will either succeed or fail because of his ABILITY as a QB, not because he is just over an inch shorter than Aaron Rogers.  

 

Some of you talk about Baker like he is the new Mugsy Bogues. He is in no way so short that his height will be the downfall to any potential success.  He is tall enough to succeed, and his success or failure will be specifically on his talent not his height.

[ALF]

Baker would be perfect to learn behind Brees how to compensate for height in NFL.

[H2o]

56 minutes ago, ALF said:

Baker would be perfect to learn behind Brees how to compensate for height in NFL.

Drew Brees is the epitome of a hard working, professional ahlete who has spent countless hours working to perfect his craft. The time he puts in on footwork and his throwing motion has been reported before and he does it today the same as he did 10 years ago. I think he's going to end up coaching when his career is all said and done. 

[simool]

Drew Brees had it when he was at Purdue...  Maturity. Class. Baker Mayfield does not. I could give two craps about his obvious talent. It's going to be wasted because he is a jack ass. I can pretty much guarantee we will not be drafting him based off what McBeane has done in their first season.  Cousins would be in play before Mayfield just based on how he lives his life.  I am fairly certain we will not sign Cousins either based off what McBeane has done in their first season...

 

Barring some crazy trade up for Rosen, Darnold, or Allen; we should probably prepare ourselves for someone like Lamar Jackson or Mike White.

[SouthNYfan]

33 minutes ago, simool said:

Drew Brees had it when he was at Purdue...  Maturity. Class. Baker Mayfield does not. I could give two craps about his obvious talent. It's going to be wasted because he is a jack ass. I can pretty much guarantee we will not be drafting him based off what McBeane has done in their first season.  Cousins would be in play before Mayfield just based on how he lives his life.  I am fairly certain we will not sign Cousins either based off what McBeane has done in their first season...

 

Barring some crazy trade up for Rosen, Darnold, or Allen; we should probably prepare ourselves for someone like Lamar Jackson or Mike White.

 

I don't think he's a risk like Johnny football, but he's definitely a hothead and has a bit of personality concern.

I personally think he will be fine in the NFL with the right team/coach situation.

If he ends up in Cleveland he will prob go insane and flame out.

 

I do agree with you that he doesn't seem to fit the MCD character profile, although, ironically, I think a guy like MCD would be the best thing for him.

[FearLess Price]

50 minutes ago, simool said:

Drew Brees had it when he was at Purdue...  Maturity. Class. Baker Mayfield does not. I could give two craps about his obvious talent. It's going to be wasted because he is a jack ass. I can pretty much guarantee we will not be drafting him based off what McBeane has done in their first season.  Cousins would be in play before Mayfield just based on how he lives his life.  I am fairly certain we will not sign Cousins either based off what McBeane has done in their first season...

 

Barring some crazy trade up for Rosen, Darnold, or Allen; we should probably prepare ourselves for someone like Lamar Jackson or Mike White.

 

I disagree completely.  #1 Allen sucks monkey balls. Scouts just look at his physical attributes and prorate him because of it but hes the next Paxton lynch or Hackenburg at worst.

 

Mayfield is a jackass bc he grabbed his crotch during a game? Cmon dude what kind of square where you in college? I give my tv a big ass DX crotch chop everytime i comeback  and win with a last second touchdown. Immature yes but it shows passion for the game.

 

Strong football teams have dogs. Dogs fight, we posture, we bark, were aggressive. This Bills team doesnt have enough dogs on it. Would love to have someone on the team with the fire, the fight, the spirit, the will to win. Baker has those immesuarables in spades. His height might come up short when compared to others... (lol) but the talent and desire to win trump the physical flaws the league sees with him. He goes through progressions the most, has the best accuracy, has the clutch trait , and is good outside of the pocket throwing on the run.

 

This is the NFL. Not boy scouts.

 

 

28 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

I don't think he's a risk like Johnny football, but he's definitely a hothead and has a bit of personality concern.

I personally think he will be fine in the NFL with the right team/coach situation.

If he ends up in Cleveland he will prob go insane and flame out.

 

I do agree with you that he doesn't seem to fit the MCD character profile, although, ironically, I think a guy like MCD would be the best thing for him.

 

You nailed it breh. It really depends what team he goes to. You can say that about a lot of QBs but if he goes to Cleveland they dont have the coaching and enough veterans on the team to school the new kid and clean up the jagged edges of raw talent.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

13 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

6 feet tall is a problem

 

And PFF are the ones who rated Tyrod Taylor one below Aaron Rodgers.

This is why I don't believe in PFF, now if they said Taylor as a passer is equal to Bryce Petty then they would have some credibility.

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

11 hours ago, DallasMac said:

As is your statement that he is by far the most composed Qb in the draft.  

If this is what you think I seriously have to question whether you have actually seen him play, because Mayfield's ability to stand in the pocket and deliver a the ball accurately when the pocket is breaking down around him is one of his greatest strengths.  He has done it better in college than any other QB is this draft and it's really not debatable.  

[hemma]

Peter Dinklage was not on his OL nor was Doug Legursky.  His OL ranged from 6'2" to 6'7".  

He moves & is smart enough to keep clear vision.

 

I think he's beyond our reach, but we'd do well if we managed to get that kid.

[BillsMafia13]

3 hours ago, simool said:

Drew Brees had it when he was at Purdue...  Maturity. Class. Baker Mayfield does not. I could give two craps about his obvious talent. It's going to be wasted because he is a jack ass. I can pretty much guarantee we will not be drafting him based off what McBeane has done in their first season.  Cousins would be in play before Mayfield just based on how he lives his life.  I am fairly certain we will not sign Cousins either based off what McBeane has done in their first season...

 

Barring some crazy trade up for Rosen, Darnold, or Allen; we should probably prepare ourselves for someone like Lamar Jackson or Mike White.

You may be correct we wont be drafted because McBeane doesnt like his attitude but to say his talent will be wasted because is foolish.  And to say you "dont give two craps about talent" is even worse.  If I wanted to find class and sophistication id hire a butler.  Mayfield doesnt just like to win, he hates to lose and that should trump every other flag that comes up.  Your evaluation is misguided and wayyyyy off base.

[17 Josh Allen]

Wow after reading that article and watching the video links in side the article, I'm in agreement. years from now will look back and say Baker Mayfield was the best QB in this 2018 class. Bills need to find away to draft this guy. 

[Negan]

It was a no brainer to draft Watson last year, and selecting Mayfield early is another no brainer decision

[17 Josh Allen]

7 minutes ago, Negan said:

It was a no brainer to draft Watson last year, and selecting Mayfield early is another no brainer decision

 

 

Yes last year I was totally on board with Mahomes or Watson and I was super upset that we did not draft one of them and traded are 1st round pick. If we did that to get draft capital for the 2018 draft then we better step up to the plate and a Baker mayfield or it was a total waste of trading away that 1st round pick in 2017. 

18 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

From what we have seen on the field, Oklahoma’s Baker Mayfield is the best quarterback in this draft class, and it isn’t particularly close to the second guy.

 

Mayfield owns the best two single-season PFF grades we have seen in four years of college grading and three of the top six seasons.

  

 

Are you on board with the bills drafting Baker Mayfield since you started this post, are you just giving info from something you read on the internet and providing a link. So where do you stand with this QB class 

[26CornerBlitz]

6 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

Yes last year I was totally on board with Mahomes or Watson and I was super upset that we did not draft one of them and traded are 1st round pick. If we did that to get draft capital for the 2018 draft then we better step up to the plate and a Baker mayfield or it was a total waste of trading away that 1st round pick in 2017. 

  

Are you on board with the bills drafting Baker Mayfield since you started this post, are you just giving info from something you read on the internet and providing a link. So where do you stand with this QB class 

 

Mayfield would be a good option to pursue IMO, but they would have to make a deal to get him because he will not be available if the Bills stand pat at 21 and 22.   I don't believe they'll have a shot at Darnold or Rosen. 

[Thurman#1]

17 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

He was the best QB in college this year.  The best QB in the draft is obviously something entirely different and completely subjective.  

 

 

It's not entirely different. Some years college's best player is the best pro.

 

But yeah, it's hard to predict, especially at QB.

 

Mayfield was the best QB in college. PFF be damned. Pretty much everyone thinks so. It's how he'll transition to the NFL that is the question. And there's a very decent argument that he might turn out to be the best in this draft. Or not. But it's not a stupid opinion either way.

 

 

27 minutes ago, Negan said:

It was a no brainer to draft Watson last year, and selecting Mayfield early is another no brainer decision

 

 

If it was such a no-brainer how come he lasted till 12?

 

It was a calculated risk same as nearly all of them are.

 

 

4 hours ago, simool said:

Drew Brees had it when he was at Purdue...  Maturity. Class. Baker Mayfield does not. I could give two craps about his obvious talent. It's going to be wasted because he is a jack ass. I can pretty much guarantee we will not be drafting him based off what McBeane has done in their first season.  Cousins would be in play before Mayfield just based on how he lives his life.  I am fairly certain we will not sign Cousins either based off what McBeane has done in their first season...

 

Barring some crazy trade up for Rosen, Darnold, or Allen; we should probably prepare ourselves for someone like Lamar Jackson or Mike White.

 

 

I don't think you can guarantee squat off what we know.

 

Yeah, McBeane values character. But there's a very legitimate argument that Mayfield has it in the important areas, that character isn't really a problem for him.

 

Of course, there's an argument the other way, too. But again, both are legit.No, he's not a choirboy and no he's not classy, but you can be a character-filled person without being either, really. I don't think we've seen enough from McDermott or Beane yet to know exactly how they feel about this kid. He's divisive. It's not like he's JaMarcus Russell.

Edited February 13, 2018 by Thurman#1

[PIZ]

8 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

If it was such a no-brainer how come he lasted till 12?

 

It was a calculated risk same as nearly all of them are.

 

He meant "hindsight no-brainer".  That's always been the case with the draft.  There are definitely no guarantees as far as who will be a worthy draft pick.

 

 

[LabattBlue]

I like Mayfield a lot(more than all other QB prospects in this draft) and wish the Bills could get him, but I don't see them giving up what it is going to take to move from the low 20's into possibly the top 3. Now if Mayfield slips to around 10, I think the trade up price is a lot more reasonable.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I get that he doesn't have ideal height and grabbed his crotch, but why are people so scared of insanely good production, the necessary tools, and leadership?

 

35 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Mayfield would be a good option to pursue IMO, but they would have to make a deal to get him because he will not be available if the Bills stand pat at 21 and 22.   I don't believe they'll have a shot at Darnold or Rosen. 

 

"Hello, would you please put me through to Mr. Reich? Thank you."

 

Starting offer: #21, #22, & Glenn

Edited February 13, 2018 by JohnBonhamRocks

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

I get that he doesn't have ideal height and grabbed his crotch, but why are people so scared of insanely good production, the necessary tools, and leadership?

 

"Hello, would you please put me through to Mr. Reich? Thank you."

 

Starting offer: #21, #22, & Glenn

 

Mr. Ballard perhaps.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Mr. Ballard perhaps.

 

He's not our mole!

[17 Josh Allen]

37 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Mayfield would be a good option to pursue IMO, but they would have to make a deal to get him because he will not be available if the Bills stand pat at 21 and 22.   I don't believe they'll have a shot at Darnold or Rosen. 

 

 

Corner Blitz cut to the chase and take a stand I want baker mayfield if I can't get him I want Allen. Take a stand and tell us the guy you want 1st and 2nd on your QB list 

[Fadingpain]

18 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

6 feet tall is a problem

 

And PFF are the ones who rated Tyrod Taylor one below Aaron Rodgers.

It's more like 5'11" but it's only a problem if it's a problem, if you know what I mean.

 

His height might be a real problem for one guy but not a problem for another.

 

[aristocrat]

2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

It's more like 5'11" but it's only a problem if it's a problem, if you know what I mean.

 

His height might be a real problem for one guy but not a problem for another.

 

 

he was measured over 6 feet at the senior bowl for what its worth

[buffalobloodfloridahome]

His ceiling is Russell Wilson his floor is Johnny Manziel. Russell appears to be a little more athletic and was underrated coming out of college not a bad comparison. Height wise very similar to Wilson and makes allot of plays outside of the pocket like Wilson. Before the combine I don't like to pick draft spots always some guy that shoots up the board after because of how well he does (Deshaun Watson).

[billsfan_34]

20 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

Good to know, although his competition is a little....lacking. 

So was Big Bens in the MAC- just sayin’

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

19 hours ago, DallasMac said:

As is your statement that he is by far the most composed Qb in the draft.  

Maybe he missed the 2nd half of the Rose Bowl

18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

He's not short. And....so what?  How many were as successful as Mayfield in college?

Many that played in the Big 12 were very successful and some of them didn't have a great O-line But I believe he is much closer to Manziel in maturity than to Brees and Wilson at the same age. No it's not the boy scouts but it doesn't help to have a knucklehead be the face of the franchise. We need a franchise QB but will he be able to handle everything that goes along with the NFL ? I wouldn't mind having him but  to mortgage 21 & 22. .....not so sure

Edited February 13, 2018 by MOVALLEYRANDY

[BigBuff423]

22 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

From what we have seen on the field, Oklahoma’s Baker Mayfield is the best quarterback in this draft class, and it isn’t particularly close to the second guy.

 

Mayfield owns the best two single-season PFF grades we have seen in four years of college grading and three of the top six seasons.

 

What I love about this, Mason Rudolph's 2016 is a percentage point less than Mayfield....YET, Rudolph got better in 2017 in terms of production, by a wide margin in yards, TDs, and accuracy (completion percentage in terms of statistically significant as he improved from 63% to 65%), and he gets dumped on by all kinds of people....it's like, pick a lane folks....you can't be this good by various metrics, win the Johnny Unitas award by beating Mayfield in that award category, and still be incapable of being a good NFL QB, at least based on projections and that's all we have right now. 

 

So kudos to Mayfield, although I'm not sold on him and I know I'm in the minority, but all of the criticism for Rudolph is unwarranted and exaggerated IMHO. Rudy is going to be a good to great QB in the NFL.

[26CornerBlitz]

Another two analysts who have Mayfield as the #1 QB in the '18 draft.

 

[Augie]

But, but.....he grabbed his......shouldn’t he fall to at least 21?  Or maybe 22? 

[26CornerBlitz]

Bucky Brooks jumps in with the book on Mayfield with regard to what he's hearing from scouts, sees on film, an NFL comparison, and where he might be drafted.

 

Book on Baker Mayfield: Giants, Jets fit one of draft's top QBs

Editor's note: NFL.com analyst and former NFL scout Bucky Brooks reveals "the book on" some of the 2018 NFL Draft's most highly coveted prospects. In the first installment of the series, we look at Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield.

Baker Mayfield is one of the crown jewels of the 2018 quarterback class after a spectacular career at Oklahoma that saw him post video-game-like numbers at the position. Mayfield threw for 12,292 yards in three seasons at OU while posting a gaudy 119:21 touchdown-to-interception ratio and 69.8 percent completion rate that suggests he's an efficient playmaker at the position.

Not to mention, he led the Sooners to two appearances in the College Football Playoff and racked up some notable wins against established programs around the country.
With Mayfield playing a key role in his team's success as the driver of the offense, he should be in line to be the top pick of the 2018 draft ... right?

In most instances, that would be the case, but it's still hard for some scouts to accept a 6-foot quarterback as an elite prospect, despite the success of Russell Wilson (5-11) and Drew Brees (6-0). Skeptics also wonder if Mayfield's success is a byproduct of playing in an Air Raid system that's produced a number of statistical wonder boys but only a few legitimate NFL QBs. With character concerns also clouding his evaluation, Mayfield is certainly not a lock to be the No. 1 overall pick in this year's draft.

After taking some time to assess his game and solicit opinions from my scouting colleagues in the business, here's The Book on Baker Mayfield.