LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, starrymessenger said: What he and Rudolph (injury) have decided will not help their draft status. There is tons of tape on both players but given that transitioning to a pro offence is a question I'm sure that the pro talent evaluators would have liked to see them in live action and up close. An equally important question with respect to Mayfield is his character and he will be interviewed so that's good. The attending coaches will also get to see him interact with his teammates throughout the week of practices. And they will get to check out how he does in passing drills. Not participating could be more of a problem for Rudolph IMO. Mayfield and Allen were to play on the same team. Maybe this buys Allen a bit more playing time and that is really more important in his case. He is obviously going to wow them in shorts but the main question is how well will he play against a big step up in competition. He did not do well playing last year against power 5 teams. Why did a guy with prototypical elite traits and football smarts (he's very good in front of the chalkboard) play so poorly? If he lights it up in the game he's probably going top 5. If he craps out he will drop, maybe even a fair bit. Great, Rudolph and Mayfield were the only reasons to watch the Senior Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Great, Rudolph and Mayfield were the only reasons to watch the Senior Bowl. There are some really good DL playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, billsfan11 said: Didn’t he say he wants to play for the Dolphins? I hope not, if he did, he needs his head examined! I was just joking that he's trying to fall down the board to end up with the Bills. I don't trust anyone who wants to play for the stinky fish! SQUISH THE FISH. 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: There are some really good DL playing who do you recommend watching. I don't watch enough college ball to know who I should be watching in the front 7 in the Senior Bowl? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I hope not, if he did, he needs his head examined! I was just joking that he's trying to fall down the board to end up with the Bills. I don't trust anyone who wants to play for the stinky fish! SQUISH THE FISH. who do you recommend watching. I don't watch enough college ball to know who I should be watching in the front 7 in the Senior Bowl? Marcus Davenport jalyn Holmes Tyquan Lewis ogbonnia okoronkwo harrison Phillips da’shawn hand Andrew brown ochenna nwosu micah kiser dorian o’daniel Edited January 23, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Were I Mayfield, I would not play the Senior bowl.....ala McCaffrey a year ago. to much risk.....I have to admit though, the agent is smart...the interviews etc are important, and the practices are also tryouts. But, the game is paying the bills......so, I would not have attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, JMF2006 said: Is he going to wear his 6" pumps to the combine? He can't hide forever. Different crew now Hide .....what? There's hundreds of hours of film on this guy--including against real competition in the playoffs, as opposed to throwing against DBs and WRs jogging routes on a party weekend all star game for college boys. What questions would playing in this pickup game of intramural football answer that have yet to be answered? If your team is scouting players at the "Senior Bowl", you need to fire your whole scouting department. oh, wait.....check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Please make him slip, please make him slip, please make him slip!! You’re not too far away, you could go and wet the mats! Oh, you meant....never mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: So basically Mayfield's agent is saying he may not play in the game at all. He will practice and he wants to do interviews. What do you guys think about this? This comes out this morning and Mayfield showed up late so he missed weigh ins. If I'm coaching that team, he doesn't practice if he's not going to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Koko78 said: If I'm coaching that team, he doesn't practice if he's not going to play. This is interesting because he is taking reps away from other players that will actually be in the game...may be a little selfish imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Whoever falls in love with this guy is making a big mistake imo. A short, pudgy, Big 12 QB with character concerns is the last guy I want leading my franchise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 You have to be involved and look hungry. This is the big leagues and not at your leisure situation. It would not interest me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: This is interesting because he is taking reps away from other players that will actually be in the game...may be a little selfish imo That’s why I dislike this move on Mayfield’s part. He looks bad either way now. It’s just unnecessary stuff that further cements his me first diva reputation. Edited January 24, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Whoever falls in love with this guy is making a big mistake imo. A short, pudgy, Big 12 QB with character concerns is the last guy I want leading my franchise. I saw him in person in September and he had his jersey on like a crop top, not saying it matters ultimately... but he was soft. Not Russell Wilson built like some say. He can get there but going to have to work hard next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Good points, but why not just skip the whole thing then? Say he's going to focus on the combine like everyone else always does. If everybody knows he's 5'11" then he should just get measured. I get what the agent is trying to do, but it just seems wishy-washy to me. Plus he showed up late...to me that's like the guys who get a positive drug test at the combine. It's just dumb. Definite character issue. To think someone would be with their mother in the hospital rather than at a meaningless football game. Oh the humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I saw him in person in September and he had his jersey on like a crop top, not saying it matters ultimately... but he was soft. Not Russell Wilson built like some say. He can get there but going to have to work hard next few months. Although he was an elite college player, his build frightens me. It makes me question his dedication to fitness, and ultimately what his fitness level will be as he ages. He’s going to have to work harder at staying in shape, or he’ll be a hefty QB in a few years. That wouldn’t bode well for NFL success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: That’s why I dislike this move on Mayfield’s part. He looks bad either way now. It’s just unnecessary stuff that further cements his me first diva reputation. When you watched him play, what is it that led you to believe that this kid in particular is a "me first diva"? I mean I really don't know how you concluded that watching him play. 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I saw him in person in September and he had his jersey on like a crop top, not saying it matters ultimately... but he was soft. Not Russell Wilson built like some say. He can get there but going to have to work hard next few months. Who cares if he's a bit soft in the middle. Again, did he look like he was out of shape while playing? To me it looked like he was all over the place, running throwing scrambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 No surprises here. Some team, not the Bills, is going to make a massive mistake taking this punk in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: This is interesting because he is taking reps away from other players that will actually be in the game...may be a little selfish imo Thanks this is why I brought the issue up in the first place. The situation feels strange to me and I'm just some fan. I would imagine it wouldn't sit well with NFL excecutives. 1 hour ago, Chimp said: Definite character issue. To think someone would be with their mother in the hospital rather than at a meaningless football game. Oh the humanity. C'mon man the details of his lateness came out a few hours after my post. I wish I was psychic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I like the talent...it’s the maturity level that scares me because you’re talkzing about giving up a great deal of draft capital to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Alright he weighed in and had a good excuse about the lateness. Now if he plays, all this drama is moot. Still polarizing and everything, but this kinda drama is annoying to me. He should have never agreed to come if he wasn't going to play. I guess I'm too judgemental. Edited January 24, 2018 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: When you watched him play, what is it that led you to believe that this kid in particular is a "me first diva"? I mean I really don't know how you concluded that watching him play. Who cares if he's a bit soft in the middle. Again, did he look like he was out of shape while playing? To me it looked like he was all over the place, running throwing scrambling. I concluded that he’s a diva based on his constant need to draw attention to himself. This is based on him flipping the bird, grabbing himself, and carrying a sign that read “pretenders” into the Rose Bowl game this year (a swipe at Lee Corso who called OU pretenders). He just doesn’t stop with attention seeking behavior. Right when he has to apologize for one incident, he moves on to the next to prove that he doesn’t learn. He is who he is. This will not change, and no one should try to change him. I just don’t like the thought of my franchise future in his hands. He listens to outside noise (opponents, media) who are often on the receiving end of his taunts. A pro QB needs to worry about his team, and himself only. Edited January 24, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Alright he weighed in and had a good excuse about the lateness. Now if he plays, all this drama is moot. Still polarizing and everything, but this kinda drama is annoying to me. He should have never agreed to come if he wasn't going to play. I guess I'm too judgemental. No, you’re pretty spot on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 God I hope we come out of the draft with Mayfield. Dude is a gamer, and accurate to boot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Baker Mayfield Wants to End Manziel Comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roundybout Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I honest to God did not know that Flacco was taller than Big Ben. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think Mayfield will be there at pick 21. Height combined with the drama, no matter how good he is NFL decision makers will balk at the top of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 The real news are is height ,hand size , and weight are better then expected. I would be ok if he did not play , sort of like the Pro Bowl not familiar with players and coaches. The combine will be more telling where he is drafted. Rob Rang ✔@RobRang Baker Mayfield’s official #SeniorBowl measurements: Height: 6003 Weight: 216 Hand: 9 1/2 Arm: 30 1/2 Wingspan 30 3/8 11:09 PM - Jan 23, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Dang, taller than Drew Brees, Bust!! 6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Alright he weighed in and had a good excuse about the lateness. Now if he plays, all this drama is moot. Still polarizing and everything, but this kinda drama is annoying to me. He should have never agreed to come if he wasn't going to play. I guess I'm too judgemental. People Are Just Looking For Excuses To Not Draft Him. He Doesnt Have Character Issues Nor Off Field Problems And Is A Very Intense Competitor, Something McDermott Loves. 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Baker Mayfield Wants to End Manziel Comparisons "I want to show the type of guy I am. Everyone wants to portray (me) as a bad boy, the Johnny Manziel stuff," Mayfield said. "I love the game of football, there's no doubt about that. I'm an emotional player. I'll do anything it takes to win. I love being around my teammates, leading and having responsibilities. It is what it is. If I paid too much attention to it, I'd be focusing on the wrong things." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think Mayfield will be there at pick 21. Height combined with the drama, no matter how good he is NFL decision makers will balk at the top of the 1st round. Hoping and Praying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Ah, OK, no issue then. People thought he was less than 6'1" but he's not 5'10". 7 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I concluded that he’s a diva based on his constant need to draw attention to himself. This is based on him flipping the bird, grabbing himself, and carrying a sign that read “pretenders” into the Rose Bowl game this year (a swipe at Lee Corso who called OU pretenders). He just doesn’t stop with attention seeking behavior. Right when he has to apologize for one incident, he moves on to the next to prove that he doesn’t learn. He is who he is. This will not change, and no one should try to change him. I just don’t like the thought of my franchise future in his hands. He listens to outside noise (opponents, media) who are often on the receiving end of his taunts. A pro QB needs to worry about his team, and himself only. It can change. Guys grow up. Or some do, anyway. Edited January 24, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 10 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I concluded that he’s a diva based on his constant need to draw attention to himself. This is based on him flipping the bird, grabbing himself, and carrying a sign that read “pretenders” into the Rose Bowl game this year (a swipe at Lee Corso who called OU pretenders). He just doesn’t stop with attention seeking behavior. Right when he has to apologize for one incident, he moves on to the next to prove that he doesn’t learn. He is who he is. This will not change, and no one should try to change him. I just don’t like the thought of my franchise future in his hands. He listens to outside noise (opponents, media) who are often on the receiving end of his taunts. A pro QB needs to worry about his team, and himself only. So 3 minor transgressions on the field over his career erased all of what he actually did playing football for you? You don't think this kid in particular "worried about his team"? I don't think you have ever seen him play at all. That comment gave you away. You have only seen the SportCenter clips of the episodes you described above. Do this: go watch him play and then come back and tell us all how you again concluded he doesn't care about the game, his team or winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 That secures Baker as a top 15 pick. I thought he'd come in just a smidgen below 6ft... to come in just the right side of the line guarantees he is gone before #21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Baker buddy, they hate you cuz they aint you other than him being short and a great history against short QBs, I love the kid's potential and moxy...doubt he ends up a Bill but I love him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: People Are Just Looking For Excuses To Not Draft Him. He Doesnt Have Character Issues Nor Off Field Problems And Is A Very Intense Competitor, Something McDermott Loves. I think he does have character issues. They are not Manziel level character issues.... and actually I hated Manziel's chance of transitioning as a player in any event.... but there are questions about some of his behaviour and actions. I don't think we are in the position to judge the reality of that in the way that the team are and ultimately they will make their judgment. As for McDermott loving intense competitors... he absolutely does. But he values professionalism equally. What Mayfield did on the field with the crotch grab etc was ultimately unprofessional. If that is the worst of his transgressions after doing due diligence I would still be willing to take him very high. Whether McDermott will I am less sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 19 hours ago, Wagon Circler said: I have a feeling that Allen blows. Though his throwing motion reminds me of Marino. that's why i hated marino. his release was so fast he was almost impossible to sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Many thought they exaggerated his height but with all the info out there today I think that's a thing of the past. It was rounded up sure but it's not the 2-3 inches we've seen in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Didn't he have some kind of family issue, which was why he was late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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