eball Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 ...it just doesn't matter any more. I actually enjoyed watching the Steelers have their asses handed to them for most of that game, and I'll be pulling for the Jags to beat the Pats*** as well. Saint Doug is "obviously" flawed, but I'm happy where the Bills are and I'm done rooting for Marrone to fail. We all know Coughlin is pulling the strings anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He’s a great coach. And he did a great job when he was in Buffalo. Moreso, he seems to have learned to take more risk. He’s a spineless coward but a really good coach. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I haven't lost my dislike for the quitter. 6 minutes ago, unclepete said: He’s a great coach. And he did a great job when he was in Buffalo. Moreso, he seems to have learned to take more risk. He’s a spineless coward but a really good coach. he screwed up big time. Lets run a fast paced offense with a rookie, rookie gets hurt, lets run a normal offense, rookie comes back fast pace but "dumbed down", repeat Year 2. Get Orton hears a who and then manages to drop the offense from 19th to 26th in ranking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I don't like or respect any quitter. Screw that clown. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I wanted him to stay here. What he did trying to get more money was a smart move and acceptable by most standards. Something I'd never do and something a man should never do; but, he was within his right. Still wish we would have kept him. And Fitz, and George Wilson, and Poz, and Searcy, and Fletcher, and Levitre (based on no backup alone)... And more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I wanted him to stay here. What he did trying to get more money was a smart move and acceptable by most standards. Something I'd never do and something a man should never do; but, he was within his right. Still wish we would have kept him. And Fitz, and George Wilson, and Poz, and Searcy, and Fletcher, and Levitre (based on no backup alone)... And more. He was pissed about Sammy and EJ and having no power to do anything about it. Hey first timer Welcome to the NFL. He also had to hire the SB winning coach Tom Coughlin to turn that boat in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He was pissed about Sammy and EJ and having no power to do anything about it. Hey first timer Welcome to the NFL. He also had to hire the SB winning coach Tom Coughlin to turn that boat in the right direction. Yup. That team has Coughlin written all over it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Not me. BUT, he did go for 4th downs a few times as we've seen, and mostly, how refreshing is it to hear "I like it when my mobile inaccurate QB runs" instead of the "let's try to make him a pocket passer" mantra. He said many times this year too, not just recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I'll never love the guy, but as a fan of the game, I really enjoy watching that Jax team. Fast and hard hitting defense, smash mouth running game. I pray they don't get a real QB anytime soon or they will be ruling the AFC for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I liked him as the coach. He quit on Buffalo, but he never quit on himself. From what we've heard, Buffalo was a ****ty place to work with Whaley around. I think he was looking out for himself and his family, so I can't blame him. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I mean, the Bills put the assanine opt out clause in the contract and through back channels Marrone was pretty much guaranteed the Jets job. Then someone near the jets ran a smear campaign against him and made the owners pretty much back out. The guy grew up in NYC. I’m sure he was excited to get a chance to coach at home. I don’t really get why people hate him. Plus we had a really good vet QB that retired and all we were left with was a complete bust and probably the worst starting qb in football. A guy that Whaley was infatuated with and wouldnt stop forcing him onto coaches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, unclepete said: He’s a great coach. And he did a great job when he was in Buffalo. Moreso, he seems to have learned to take more risk. He’s a spineless coward but a really good coach. No, he's not. Go Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I think the Bills making the playoffs takes away from the full level of hate/shame of watching Marrone go this far. Instead of raising a fist and yelling to the heavens, it's more like, "Meh, good for him. Fun defense to watch. Love where we're headed tho" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: No, he's not. Go Patriots. Go Patriots? LOL what are you doing in a Bills forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t really get why people hate him. Plus we had a really good vet QB that retired and all we were left with was a complete bust and probably the worst starting qb in football. A guy that Whaley was infatuated with and wouldnt stop forcing him onto coaches. Because he's a massive prick who preached "family" and "don't let anyone give you **** for being a Bill" and "don't confuse effort with results" and then bailed because he wasn't praised enough for a playoff-less 8-7 season. The same thing he did to Syracuse. F him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just realizing, not thinking it's gonna happen, but imagine the Jags vs Eagles SB. Our HC/OC/DC from 2014 all in the big game. Again, our playoff drought ending doesn't make that thought hurt nearly as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He was pissed about Sammy and EJ and having no power to do anything about it. Hey first timer Welcome to the NFL. He also had to hire the SB winning coach Tom Coughlin to turn that boat in the right direction. A lot of this team was in place with Gus Bradley. They just underachieved. And in recent history Coughlin struggled in New York. Sure he helped, but I wouldn't attribute his success to solely to Tom Coughlin. 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He was pissed about Sammy and EJ and having no power to do anything about it. Hey first timer Welcome to the NFL. He also had to hire the SB winning coach Tom Coughlin to turn that boat in the right direction. Once again, Coughlin struggled for several years in New York. And that 9-7 Bills team completely over achieved. I still remember feeling like the team finally seemed prepared even though they were overmatched. I think he and Jim Schwartz would have made the playoffs and made a run if they got one more year. Edited January 15, 2018 by unclepete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 2016 the JAGS were 3-13. They finished 1 - 10. the 1 win was against Tennessee. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax/2016.htm 8 minutes ago, unclepete said: I think he won the last 3 games after taking over last year without Coughlin. And in recent history Coughlin struggled in New York. Sure he helped, but I wouldn't attribute his success to solely to Tom Coughlin. VP of operations Getting Dareus improved their run defense a lot. Who is responsible for that? I don't know Edited January 15, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Just Bills fans still being bitter about not getting to be the dumper instead of the one being dumped. Fans wanted him run out of town and hated him before he left. He used an option in his contract that allowed him an out with a nice chunk of cash and he did what was best for him and his family. Whether you believe that he did it for the Jets job, he still landed on his feet and in a better situation then the Jets. I'm sure no Bills fan has ever left a job for something different or for money....... Edited January 15, 2018 by apuszczalowski 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Just Bills fans still being bitter about not getting to be the dumper instead of the one being dumped. Fans wanted him run out of town and hated him before he left. He used an option in his contract that allowed him an out with a nice chunk of cash and he did what was best for him and his family. Whether you believe that he did it for the Jets job, he still landed on his feet and in a better situation then the Jets. I'm sure no Bills fan has ever left a job for something different or for money....... Sour grapes game on 1 billion. "We didn't want to be in the AFCCG game anyway!" Doug Marrone, undefeated in the playoffs. Let's go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 wasn't upset that he left, but I will never respect him for being a quitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Mrbojanglezs said: wasn't upset that he left, but I will never respect him for being a quitter. I think I love these takes the best. I love that he quit, but I hated him for quitting. Talk about a no-win scenario. at least Rex and his gang got his boys to love him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 2016 the JAGS were 3-13. They finished 1 - 10. the 1 win was against Tennessee. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax/2016.htm VP of operations Getting Dareus improved their run defense a lot. Who is responsible for that? I don't know My bad. I watched a lot of Jags football because I lived in the area and the feeling was they played a lot better during those last 3 games. And I felt that way as well. There was a distinct difference. As there was a distinct difference in how we performed after he replaced Chan Gailey. Coughlin contributed but he you can't attribute all of his success to Coughlin. To me, a team out performing their talent is a sign of good coaching and this year the Jags did that. He did it with Buffalo as well. The Steelers underperformed their talent, which is why I'm not high on Tomlin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: I think I love these takes the best. I love that he quit, but I hated him for quitting. Talk about a no-win scenario. at least Rex and his gang got his boys to love him! Hate and respect are completely different meaning words. I thought he was an OK coach when he was here but I did not like hackett and I did not like his conservative nature. So when I heard he left I was like OK no big deal he would probably be fired anyway. But I thought the fact that he would take money and run and quit on 1 of 32 coaching jobs in the league was pretty lame, but I never said I hated the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Mrbojanglezs said: Hate and respect are completely different meaning words. I thought he was an OK coach when he was here but I did not like hackett and I did not like his conservative nature. So when I heard he left I was like OK no big deal he would probably be fired anyway. But I thought the fact that he would take money and run and quit on 1 of 32 coaching jobs in the league was pretty lame, but I never said I hated the man. What if he agreed that he probably would be fired, after basically getting told by the Pegulas that they didn't believe in him? He should've stayed for what purpose then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: No, he's not. Go Patriots. Is this serious? Go patriots? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: What if he agreed that he probably would be fired, after basically getting told by the Pegulas that they didn't believe in him? He should've stayed for what purpose then? As far as I remember the Pegulas told him they wanted him back and tried to extend him and he chose to quit. Me saying he would probably be fired anyway was just my conjecture base on the previous 14 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 In hindsight, it was obvious he despised Whaley. Had we gotten a decent QB with Marrone and Schwartz we could have built a good team if we didn't have Whaley wasting draft picks on Sammy and EJ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, eball said: ...it just doesn't matter any more. I actually enjoyed watching the Steelers have their asses handed to them for most of that game, and I'll be pulling for the Jags to beat the Pats*** as well. Saint Doug is "obviously" flawed, but I'm happy where the Bills are and I'm done rooting for Marrone to fail. We all know Coughlin is pulling the strings anyway. 1 hour ago, eball said: You had an epiphany! What the hell is going on here. You are not the bile full vengeful fellow I once knew. Getting older sometimes means getting mellower. And sometimes it means getting more cantankerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I'll never understand the whole "quitter" issue. Forgetting about football and our love for this team, so anyone who isn't happy in their job due to the environment (Whaley, cough cough) that is out of their control, has to stay put? To appease fans? Can anyone here who is complaining about Marrone "quitting" honestly say that they would stay in their crappy job because its the right and moral thing to do? Hypocrisy. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 55 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: No, he's not. Go Patriots. I'm not a Marrone fan either (just in way he left the organization) .. but that hardly makes me want to root for the Pats .... I look at it this way ... .yesterday's game is really a compliment to our defense .. we held those guys to 10 points in their own house ... I hope they destroy NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Douglas Marrone left the Bills on bad terms: He had his reasons that we will probably never fully understand. He is a very good NFL Head Coach. No bitterness here. Maybe watching how Jacksonville has advanced to the AFC Championship should also give us a pause about Tyrod Taylor: Blake Bortles got the Jags there, and if the Bills can get Tyrod back to the 2015 Tyrod (25 total TD's 6 INT) level, and make the defense elite, who says Buffalo can't replicate this success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, eball said: ...it just doesn't matter any more. I actually enjoyed watching the Steelers have their asses handed to them for most of that game, and I'll be pulling for the Jags to beat the Pats*** as well. Saint Doug is "obviously" flawed, but I'm happy where the Bills are and I'm done rooting for Marrone to fail. We all know Coughlin is pulling the strings anyway. I don't like Marrone. But he has proven himself to be a decent NFL coach. Of course, when you look at the defensive talent he had this year it's not hard to see why. I don't think Marrone is that much better than the average NFL coach, but you could say the same thing about a lot of guys. I think the way that Marrone left the Bills was ****ty, but I do agree - there's probably a lot that went down with some people's golden boy - St. Doug Whaley that we have no idea about. 1 minute ago, Like A Mofo said: Douglas Marrone left the Bills on bad terms: He had his reasons that we will probably never fully understand. He is a very good NFL Head Coach. No bitterness here. Maybe watching how Jacksonville has advanced to the AFC Championship should also give us a pause about Tyrod Taylor: Blake Bortles got the Jags there, and if the Bills can get Tyrod back to the 2015 Tyrod (25 total TD's 6 INT) level, and make the defense elite, who says Buffalo can't replicate this success? Blake Bortles is a better QB than Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Nope I will harness all the bitterness some of you have left behind and apply it back to Maronne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Doug Marrone teams are tough, physical, and bring attitude. We saw it here in Buffalo. If they kept that D together they would have made the playoffs. He also wanted Zack Martin over trading up for Watkins, that's why he left the draft room when the trade happened. Edited January 15, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: Because he's a massive prick who preached "family" and "don't let anyone give you **** for being a Bill" and "don't confuse effort with results" and then bailed because he wasn't praised enough for a playoff-less 8-7 season. The same thing he did to Syracuse. F him. This x10. I also do not think he's a great coach, and that Coughlin has more to do with the Jags success right now. But there's no way I'm rooting for NE. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Douglas Marrone left the Bills on bad terms: He had his reasons that we will probably never fully understand. He is a very good NFL Head Coach. No bitterness here. Maybe watching how Jacksonville has advanced to the AFC Championship should also give us a pause about Tyrod Taylor: Blake Bortles got the Jags there, and if the Bills can get Tyrod back to the 2015 Tyrod (25 total TD's 6 INT) level, and make the defense elite, who says Buffalo can't replicate this success? I do . Tyrod can't throw. Tyord would have played it safe and protected his stats. The ONE thing you should have learned watching these playoff games is that Tyrod would never have kept our team in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 So the fans could hate him anyways and they could have the satisfaction of getting to see him fired instead of leaving on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 If the Jacksonville defense can make Tom Brady into a whiney little beyotch next Sunday, I'll light a candle in St. Doug's honor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, eball said: ...it just doesn't matter any more. I actually enjoyed watching the Steelers have their asses handed to them for most of that game, and I'll be pulling for the Jags to beat the Pats*** as well. Saint Doug is "obviously" flawed, but I'm happy where the Bills are and I'm done rooting for Marrone to fail. We all know Coughlin is pulling the strings anyway. I'm one of the few who never had a problem with the guy. I don't think he did "great" in Buffalo, but it was his first NFL HC gig and it was the Bills during the most uncertain time in the history of the team. After seeing what kind of owners the Pegs were for those first two years, he did the right thing by taking the money and running. I'm glad he's doing well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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