Peace Frog Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I think we'll have trouble running the ball next week against the Jags, Shady or no Shady. We'll have to beat them with the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: If no Shady, bring in Banyard. God I hope Shady can play. Only way Shady wont suit up is if his legs amputated. I’d be willing to bet he’s out there next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Peace Frog said: I think we'll have trouble running the ball next week against the Jags, Shady or no Shady. We'll have to beat them with the pass. Agreed. May be a blessing in disguise. The gameplan should be to spread them out and throw quick passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, CDogg20 said: Only way Shady wont suit up is if his legs amputated. I’d be willing to bet he’s out there next week. Especially the way he slammed his fist on the field....He knew he was S.O.L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Even if Shady is there he won’t practice. Banyard should be signed tmrrw. And Joe Webb wildcat should be part of the game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TigerJ Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Klaista2k said: I know it's early but anyone know how serious McCoy's injury is? Were really going to need him next Sunday. Besides the fact that it is a sprain, you aren't going to get anything out of OBD before about Wednesday. For a time in the game he was questionable to return befor they downgraded him to out. I don't know if that makes him more or less hopeful to start next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 The problem is if he is close he will tell the coaches and trainers he can play. If his ankle isn't 80-90% he won't be able to be Shady. Our backups are weak. He's a fighter and extremely confident in his abilities. It's what I love about him. But there is a great chance that the sprain makes him unable to be Shady, and yet he believes and tells the coaches and trainers he can go. This is NOT a criticism of Shady. I think every competitor thinks the same way. But a sprained ankle sucks for a guy like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: The problem is if he is close he will tell the coaches and trainers he can play. If his ankle isn't 80-90% he won't be able to be Shady. Our backups are weak. He's a fighter and extremely confident in his abilities. It's what I love about him. But there is a great chance that the sprain makes him unable to be Shady, and yet he believes and tells the coaches and trainers he can go. This is NOT a criticism of Shady. I think every competitor thinks the same way. But a sprained ankle sucks for a guy like him. If it’s high ankle sprain no way he plays if normal sprain lots of treatments can get him near 90% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Xwnyer said: If it’s high ankle sprain no way he plays if normal sprain lots of treatments can get him near 90% I am dreading the high ankle sprain. That could be like a 4-6 week injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: The problem is if he is close he will tell the coaches and trainers he can play. If his ankle isn't 80-90% he won't be able to be Shady. Our backups are weak. He's a fighter and extremely confident in his abilities. It's what I love about him. But there is a great chance that the sprain makes him unable to be Shady, and yet he believes and tells the coaches and trainers he can go. This is NOT a criticism of Shady. I think every competitor thinks the same way. But a sprained ankle sucks for a guy like him. Against the Jags D, he may not have been able to be Shady either. Agreed though. His style does not mesh well with nagging injuries like that. 6 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I am dreading the high ankle sprain. That could be like a 4-6 week injury. Doubt it's high. The concern was a break, which would tend to be lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Against the Jags D, he may not have been able to be Shady either. Agreed though. His style does not mesh well with nagging injuries like that. Doubt it's high. The concern was a break, which would tend to be lower. Yup. They are not only going to want to play him but listen to him. And I'm not at all thinking he is going to be lying about his injury, I just think if it is close he is going to think he can go. But no one is going to know. If he can't cut like he does he is not going to be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 hours ago, gobillsinytown said: High ankle? High ankle takes a lot longer. Wrap it up, throw some dirt on it and let roll! Seriously though I can't see him missing this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) Melvin Gordon has a high ankle sprain and played today. I don’t know how much or what he contributed. Edit: just checked - 17 carries, 93 yds Edited January 1, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: So in other words he will play in the game next week. But Tolbert looked damn good running today as well! He stepped up knowing Kyle could replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yup. They are not only going to want to play him but listen to him. And I'm not at all thinking he is going to be lying about his injury, I just think if it is close he is going to think he can go. But no one is going to know. If he can't cut like he does he is not going to be worth it. Well maybe, maybe not. If he's 90%, but not Shady, the Jags aren't going to be betting on that, at least not early. Get him a couple carries, motion him out, do unique things to use his rep to stress that Jags D. Even at 90%, I like Shady's chances versus Telvin (I think he's not hurt, right?) in the open field. The Jags will still have to respect him. But those 3 yard passes to the flat where he makes two guys miss for an extra couple won't happen. Rico is going to have to make some magic. Edited January 1, 2018 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Melvin Gordon has a high ankle sprain and played today. I don’t know how much or what he contributed. scored a TD, I think. Kind of a fluke play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Well maybe, maybe not. If he's 90%, but not Shady, the Jags aren't going to be betting on that, at least not early. Get him a couple carries, motion him out, do unique things to use his rep to stress that Jags D. Even at 90%, I like Shady's chances versus Telvin (I think he's not hurt, right?) in the open field. The Jags will still have to respect him. But those 3 yard passes to the flat where he makes two guys miss for an extra couple won't happen. Rico is going to have to make some magic. Right. I agree with you for the most part. My point is really that he is such a competitor he is going to want to play. He won't know himself if he is 60-70-80-90 %. And at what point does it become a detriment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Right. I agree with you for the most part. My point is really that he is such a competitor he is going to want to play. He won't know himself if he is 60-70-80-90 %. And at what point does it become a detriment. I guess we'll find out. I'm thinking if he's a detriment, McD won't hesitate to downgrade his role. Luckily, Murphy looked pretty good in a limited role tonight. Our coaches already downgraded Shady enough at what looked like 100% all year. He was being taken off the field a play or too early, IMO, in a lot of games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Thankfully the Bills play on Sunday. Obviously they'll check him out in practice and see what he can and can't do and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zqueezr Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Sorry to say but..without #25 we can’t win next week , I just don’t see it..Shady is like 60% of our O ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Shady McCoy is in a walking boot per Joe B and Matthew Fairburn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Shady McCoy is in a walking boot per Joe B and Matthew Fairburn. At least he's walking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Get him a running boot! Stat! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Put him in the Terrell Owens hyperbaric chamber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, rafter said: Put him in the Terrell Owens hyperbaric chamber! Or at least the Melvin Gordon one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Right. I agree with you for the most part. My point is really that he is such a competitor he is going to want to play. He won't know himself if he is 60-70-80-90 %. And at what point does it become a detriment. Given our depth chart- the only detriment is if he extends the injury and we win making it impact more games. He could be hopping on one leg and be better than Tolbert at RB1 though. 3 hours ago, Doc said: Thankfully the Bills play on Sunday. Obviously they'll check him out in practice and see what he can and can't do and go from there. I have a suspicion he won’t be running much til Sunday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Given our depth chart- the only detriment is if he extends the injury and we win making it impact more games. He could be hopping on one leg and be better than Tolbert at RB1 though. A risk I am willing to take ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I know longer question McCoy's heart and dedication to the team. The emotion and frustration on his face getting into the cart said it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I know longer question McCoy's heart and dedication to the team. The emotion and frustration on his face getting into the cart said it all. Why did you ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: Why did you ever? The off the field stuff. Verbal sour grapes against the Eagles when they traded him here as he's always played football in PA. He appeared to me as a me first type of player, but I'm glad I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The off the field stuff. Verbal sour grapes against the Eagles when they traded him here as he's always played football in PA. He appeared to me as a me first type of player, but I'm glad I was wrong. I suppose. But all that stuff was overblown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The off the field stuff. Verbal sour grapes against the Eagles when they traded him here as he's always played football in PA. He appeared to me as a me first type of player, but I'm glad I was wrong. You're right. But it's important to differentiate from players that grouse off the field but still perform, versus guys that let the off the field stuff affect their play. I always thought TO got a bad rap. He was thought of as a prima Donna and nuisance, but he worked his ass off on the field and off. He tried hard, he was a great blocker, he didn't often quit on routes when the ball didn't come to him. Most selfish guys like that are selfish guys. McCoy groused but when he was on the field he always tried his ass off. People will say his first year he wasn't that great but it was because he had a bad hamstring not because he didn't try or was a bad guy regardless of his disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: You're right. But it's important to differentiate from players that grouse off the field but still perform, versus guys that let the off the field stuff affect their play. I always thought TO got a bad rap. He was thought of as a prima Donna and nuisance, but he worked his ass off on the field and off. He tried hard, he was a great blocker, he didn't often quit on routes when the ball didn't come to him. Most selfish guys like that are selfish guys. McCoy groused but when he was on the field he always tried his ass off. People will say his first year he wasn't that great but it was because he had a bad hamstring not because he didn't try or was a bad guy regardless of his disappointment. I tell the story of how I became a Shady fan in his first or second season with the Eagles. He had a clear shot to the endzone to score at the end of a game, but stopped short to preserve the victory. I said that's a kid who gets it. And he produced for them. And he's produced for the Bills, when healthy. I didn't care about the off-field stuff as long as it didn't get him into legal trouble and heard a lot of stuff about the SB-era Bills that was worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Sprained ankles are bad and very painful. You can barley walk, let alone run. I don’t see him playing unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I know longer question McCoy's heart and dedication to the team. The emotion and frustration on his face getting into the cart said it all. why did you question it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: You're right. But it's important to differentiate from players that grouse off the field but still perform, versus guys that let the off the field stuff affect their play. I always thought TO got a bad rap. He was thought of as a prima Donna and nuisance, but he worked his ass off on the field and off. He tried hard, he was a great blocker, he didn't often quit on routes when the ball didn't come to him. Most selfish guys like that are selfish guys. McCoy groused but when he was on the field he always tried his ass off. People will say his first year he wasn't that great but it was because he had a bad hamstring not because he didn't try or was a bad guy regardless of his disappointment. Maybe if he’s hobbled he’ll dance less and actually run the plays that are called. I love Shady but he was having one of his worst games ever yesterday - he was running in the opposite direction than the play calls on multiple occasions and getting stuffed for negative yards each time. He also seemed bothered by the Dolphins’ headhunting and overall chipiness. He was grousing at Tyrod for failing to audible out of a couple of runs that resulted in big stuffs for the defense. And then he acted like his leg was snapped in half (and seemed to suspect that it was intentional), which we now know was just an ankle sprain. It was not his finest afternoon as a pro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Idandria said: Sprained ankles are bad and very painful. You can barley walk, let alone run. I don’t see him playing unfortunately. I’m not optimistic but as i mentioned Melvin Gordon was in a walking boot last week with a high ankle sprain and he played, probably because it was such a critical game. It is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I’m not optimistic but as i mentioned Melvin Gordon was in a walking boot last week with a high ankle sprain and he played, probably because it was such a critical game. It is possible. I think the largest issue is that McCoys game is so laterally inclined and a bad ankle literally derails that. I’m not gonna hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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