ALLEN1QB Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Can anybody tell me how Suh can punch TT in the jaw and there is no penalty can you imagine if that would have been Tom Brady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Hard to say it was intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) not going to convince me it was not intentional either way intentional or not you can't punch a QB in the head and not get a penalty Edited December 18, 2017 by PIP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Easy for a ref to not see it.. I didn't see it in real time. I would expect discipline from the league, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, PIP said: not going to convince me it was not intentional either way intentional or not you can't punch a QB in the head and not get a penalty if you honestly think it looked intentional I find that I little silly.... I had no problems with no flag there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I don't think it was intentional but he still hit the head which I thought was illegal in any way? Chris Kelsay got a roughing the passer penalty on Brady once when he was coming around the edge, went to swipe at the ball, missed and hit him in the shoulder. The ref thought he made contact with the head so he threw the flag. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Hard to say it was intentional. When considering Suh's history of "accidents", no, no its not difficult to say it was intentional. Why is he trying to tackle the ball carrier with a closed fist? Edited December 18, 2017 by Jauronimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: if you honestly think it looked intentional I find that I little silly.... I had no problems with no flag there. SUH would never do anything like that right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It was intentional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don't think it was intentional but he still hit the head which I thought was illegal in any way? Chris Kelsay got a roughing the passer penalty on Brady once when he was coming around the edge, went to swipe at the ball, missed and hit him in the shoulder. The ref thought he made contact with the head so he threw the flag. Taylor is not Brady... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Hamburg Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 He was upset that Tyrod kept making him run too much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It doesn't have to be intentional for a flag to be thrown. How many times have we seen flags for inadvertent contact with Brady's helmet by a pass rusher with his arms up trying to block a pass? For further league discipline, I think intent would need to be shown. For what it's worth, I believe it was intentional. One of Suh's typical bush league plays. Guy is a scumbag. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said: It doesn't have to be intentional for a flag to be thrown. How many times have we seen flags for inadvertent contact with Brady's helmet by a pass rusher with his arms up trying to block a pass? For further league discipline, I think intent would need to be shown. For what it's worth, I believe it was intentional. One of Suh's typical bush league plays. Guy is a scumbag. From the video I posted it looks pretty damn intentional to me. You don't make a fist and swing that high for no reason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 ...add in that the play should have been blown dead because Suh was well on his way into the backfield by the time the ball was snapped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 In real time I was ok with the no flag. That angle and slow motion are pretty damning, but I'm not going to get on the ref about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I know Suh is a dirty player but it didn't look like he meant to hit Taylor. It looks like he wasn't sure who was going to run with it and when Shady takes it to the left he brings his right arm back to get a grip on Shady and hits Taylor in the side of the helmet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: if you honestly think it looked intentional I find that I little silly.... I had no problems with no flag there. And I find it silly to believe a player with his history of dirty on field incidents gets the benefit of the doubt here. It looked intentional to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 if this punch was intentional he's gonna have serious problems if he ever tries to use it elsewhere..... really minor deal here people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: And I find it silly to believe a player with his history of dirty on field incidents gets the benefit of the doubt here. It looked intentional to me. It almost appears he takes a swing at Mills there as well at the end? F-Suh Edited December 18, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 His left arm is on Shady and he tries to get his right hand over as fast as possible to grab Shady's fanny pack. You can see his wrist is not locked and folds back when it hits Taylor's helmet. He also has his helmet turn towards Shady before his right arm hits Taylor. It looks unintention to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: His left arm is on Shady and he tries to get his right hand over as fast as possible to grab Shady's fanny pack. You can see his wrist is not locked and folds back when it hits Taylor's helmet. He also has his helmet turn towards Shady before his right arm hits Taylor. It looks unintention to me. 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 22 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don't think it was intentional but he still hit the head which I thought was illegal in any way? Chris Kelsay got a roughing the passer penalty on Brady once when he was coming around the edge, went to swipe at the ball, missed and hit him in the shoulder. The ref thought he made contact with the head so he threw the flag. All contact to the head on a QB is suppose to be flagged. I will not be stupid and say some QBs get more protection than others (Brady,Brees, and Rogers) while some are neglected totally (Cam Newton). I don't know why some are completely neglected especially Cam as he is considered the future face of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 That was 100% intentional. He already knew the play was dead and he was offsides, so he didn't need to actually try to tackle McCoy. Saw a good chance to put a shot on Taylor that he might be able to get away with. It's how he does and who he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I dont know, it kind of looks intentional, but Suh really isnt the epitome of class anyways, so......... Has the league office seen this?...........does anybody know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Hit to QB's head is a penalty no matter if it was intentional or not (considering his history I'd say it was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 At game speed depending where the Ref was and what he is looking at seems very easy to miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Intention doesn't matter one bit. It should have been a penalty given the fouls they were calling against the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Doc said: Intention doesn't matter one bit. It should have been a penalty given the fouls they were calling against the Bills. There was alot of missed calls on both sides. Welcome to NFL Officials 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: There was alot of missed calls on both sides. Welcome to NFL Officials I was talking more about the personal foul/unsportsmanlike calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 What ever he hits he destroys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I thought Intent has nothing to do with a hit to the head of a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc said: I was talking more about the personal foul/unsportsmanlike calls. What was Landrys again for? Ooo yeah mad an official upset NFL Officials are freaking HORRIBLE that said at game speed i can ver easily see how it was missed Edited December 18, 2017 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, NickelCity said: In real time I was ok with the no flag. That angle and slow motion are pretty damning, but I'm not going to get on the ref about it. agreed. real time hard to see. The league should suspend him for at least 2 games. That looks decently blatant on his part. 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: I thought Intent has nothing to do with a hit to the head of a QB? it shouldn't. You're right. That should have been 15 yard hitting QB head. Then suspension. I think the refs must have been watching for holding or the hand-off. I don't know how they miss that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 39 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: if you honestly think it looked intentional I find that I little silly.... I had no problems with no flag there. Are you related to Suh or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: agreed. real time hard to see. The league should suspend him for at least 2 games. That looks decently blatant on his part. it shouldn't. You're right. That should have been 15 yard hitting QB head. Then suspension. I think the refs must have been watching for holding or the hand-off. I don't know how they miss that. Did you see it ar Game Speed???? And say yes punched TT in the head??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Are you related to Suh or something? no. I think people get too butt hurt and sensitive around here. it doesn't look intentional. sorry. nothing about it looks malicious to me in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: no. I think people get too butt hurt and sensitive around here. it doesn't look intentional. sorry. nothing about it looks malicious to me in the least. Ya it wasn't intentional. But was still a missed call regardless. You can't hit a QB in the head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Did you see it ar Game Speed???? And say yes punched TT in the head??? at game speed, if the QB is hit in the head it's a penalty. I don't think it looked like a "punch". But that's what the post-game league review is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Just now, RyanC883 said: at game speed, if the QB is hit in the head it's a penalty. I don't think it looked like a "punch". But that's what the post-game league review is for. At game speed as the play was going on your saw the hit to the head? if your answer is no then i dont see how you can say no way the officials should miss that call Edited December 18, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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