McDermott: "In the Hunt"

[Wayne Arnold]

51 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

What good has that done though? They are 30th in points

 

Well they'd probably be 32nd without them.

 

Dude, he's a coach, not a miracle worker. What do you expect? This roster is trash. Yes, even before all of the trades.

[Shaw66]

42 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

I get what you're saying but i still disagree with it. 

 

I would rather him come out and say something like... "our last 3 performances were awful and that starts with me as a coach. We are still alive and we are Right in the hunt and we will do everything we can to get back to the way we know how to play".

 

Not sound like a phony optimist. 

 

I'm pretty sure a player would rather hear the coach say something like I mentioned above instead of pretending like everything is ok. I don't think the players buy that for one second

 

I don't see.that there's much different between that and what he's said.  He's said "that's not the way we want to play."  You said "We played bad."   What's the diff?  

 

He hasn't pretended everything is okay.  He's said they have a lot to fix. 

[BillsFan130]

7 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Well they'd probably be 32nd without them.

 

Dude, he's a coach, not a miracle worker. What do you expect? This roster is trash. Yes, even before all of the trades.

I expected him to improve on the defence not regress. That's asking a lot?

 

A big reason they are trash is because he decided to trade good players away. That's on him

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, billsfan11 said:

Gilmore was a free agent. Hyde is good, Poyer has regressed a lot since his hot start.

 

Bills on offence are ranked 27th in yards, would probably be closer to 32 if it wasn't for garbage time stats the last 3 games

 

Bills on defence are 25th in yards and 30th points. The sad part is this guy is supposed to be a defensive coach. Hyde and White are good, but if they are 30th in points, what good is that? Got to look at the big picture. They have sooo many holes on that defence

 

The Bills also have virtually no young talent on their team with the exception of Tre White.

 

So once again, what exactly has Mcd done? They have regressed big time on both sides on the ball and they probably have the worst young talent in the NFL

 

But he's done a god job so far, right?

 

 

 

What good has that done though? They are 30th in points

God, that's a brutal recitation.  

 

The Bills  may be the worst team in the league, and may not even be close. 

Edited November 23, 2017 by Shaw66

[BillsFan130]

3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

God, that's a brutal recitation.  

 

The Bios may be the worst team in the league, and may not even be close. 

What exactly is brutal? That I'm stating facts about their offensive and defensive ranks?

Edited November 23, 2017 by billsfan11

[Shaw66]

7 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

I expected him to improve on the defence not regress. That's asking a lot?

 

A big reason they are trash is because he decided to trade good players away. That's on him

You're right.  And I've been waiting for someone to say this for the past several weeks:  Anyone know who's leading the league in tackles?  Right. Zach Brown. 

 

Brown. Dareus. Darby. Gilmore. No one shoukdntell usnthat it isn't McD's fault he has no talent. 

3 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

What exactly is brutal? That I'm stating facts about their offensive and defensive ranks?

I'm agreeing with you.  It's brutal to look at those numbers.  Its what made me post that the Bills could be the worst tsam in the league. 

Edited November 23, 2017 by Shaw66

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

You're right.  And I've been waiting for someone to say this for the past several weeks:  Anyone know who's leading the league in tackles?  Right. Zach Brown. 

 

Brown. Dareus. Darby. Gilmore. No one shoukdntell usnthat it isn't McD's fault he has no talent. 

I'm agreeing with you.  It's brutal to look at those numbers.  Its what made me post that the Bills could be the worst tsam ib thw league. 

Oh sorry buddy, misunderstood you.

 

Ya it really is frustrating right now. I expected them to improve alot on defence this year

[Buffalo86]

If Jim Mora was the coach of the Bills, he'd absolutely be saying this right about now:

 

 

[SaviorPeterman]

The good old 'In the hunt' graphic, wouldn't be Thanksgiving in Buffalo without being mathematically alive for a playoff birth we all know isn't coming.

 

Sad thing is this team could lose the next 3 straight and will still be 'in the hunt' because of how pathetic the AFC is this year.

[Ol Dirty B]

1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Kicked out garbage like Gilmore and brought in goodness like Hyde and Poyer. Also led the team to a 5-2 start, during which your negativity was strangely absent. 

If you're a Bills enthusiast you would have known Gilmore was going to be gone regardless. The team wasn't going to pay him what he wanted. 

[Roundybout]

3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

If you're a Bills enthusiast you would have known Gilmore was going to be gone regardless. The team wasn't going to pay him what he wanted. 

 

I also know that the media was giving us hell for NOT resigning him

[hondo in seattle]

3 hours ago, wppete said:

McDermott talks a lot of nonesense. He is full of himself. Ego is massive.

 

You can think and say what you want.

I'm personally hesitant to judge a man I've never met - and only know from a few interviews and pressers - so harshly.  

[Formerly Allan in MD]

The race car with a bad engine that keeps falling further and further behind but finishes the race is "in the hunt."

[Ol Dirty B]

11 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

I also know that the media was giving us hell for NOT resigning him

No they weren't. What media was? Are there any facts you can actually point to?

 

You were wrong on point a and try to deflect with this. This all has nothing to do with McDermott. Whether it's releasing Gilmore or your interpretation of the media's reaction.

11 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

You can think and say what you want.

I'm personally hesitant to judge a man I've never met - and only know from a few interviews and pressers - so harshly.  

 

Wow man... save it for church. He is making reasonable judgments from the pressers.

 

He said he had an ego and was full of it. He didn't call him a horrible person based upon the pressers.

[Nick the Greek]

It sounds like he’s saying in the hut. Like hut hut hike? Yes, no? More like we’re in the doghouse for the 18th year in a row.

[Sweats]

Alright boys, you heard it here first............were in the hunt!!!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, DC Tom said:

Oh, just...!@#$ him.  

They were in the hunt before he started Peterman.  Pretending they are now is ridiculously, stupidly patronizing, to fans and players.

 

Don't hold back.  It sounds as though you think he's an.....

3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

I think what McD means is that we are still very much so in the hunt and its time to take some batshit crazy chances.  Really shake things up.  Switch the offense with the defense, fake punts on first down, lots and lots of flea flickers. Lets get weird!!!!

 

I think it was Shaw66 who suggested we give all the D smartphones and let them wander around texting - they might have better odds of running into ball carriers that way

3 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

You are happy with Mcd so far?

 

Name one good thing he has done so far. And trading away good players for mid to late round picks would not be considered good in my books

 

Isn't the GM Mr Beane supposed to be in charge of these moves?

[BadLandsMeanie]

At the risk of being annoying, for some reason this song came to mind.

 

Ah, let's go to the hunt
Let's go to the hunt, (oh baby)
Let's go to the hunt, (oh baby)
Let's go to the hunt
Come on, let's go to the hunt

 

Then I am picturing McD and Beane and the coaches singing this to get the players psyched up. Maybe it won't work so well.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

 

I knew this would happen, which is why Peterman should have started from the beginning. Peterman would have sailed or failed and know we are not in a good position to draft a QB.

5 hours ago, wppete said:

McDermott talks a lot of nonesense. He is full of himself. Ego is massive.

 

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. McDermott is not ego driven he just doesn't want to tell us what's going on like most coaches. Just listening to him talk you can see he not an arrogant grandiose coach like Rex was. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Just remember, most of these guys are basically gym teachers who’ve made it very far.  It helps me to think about it that way sometimes.

 

That's like saying a high school science teacher is basically the equivalent to a quantum physicist.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

You are happy with Mcd so far?

 

Name one good thing he has done so far. And trading away good players for mid to late round picks would not be considered good in my books

 

Getting us to 5 wins is a miracle in itself. Any other coach would have gotten one or two wins. Getting a sixth for Marcy was terrible but all the other trades were solid . The main point of the trades was to get rid of guys who weren't buying in or didn't fit. This is going to take time.

 

Trust The Process = be patient while we suck but soon thereafter we will be great.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

8 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

This may sound cruel, but those who spell offense and defense wrong after 2,000 posts should be put to death.

 

And centre. Can’t stand that one.

Edited November 23, 2017 by joesixpack

[Jasovon]

The only thing we are in the hunt for is a top 10 pick

[Perry Turtle]

4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Getting us to 5 wins is a miracle in itself. Any other coach would have gotten one or two wins. Getting a sixth for Marcy was terrible but all the other trades were solid . The main point of the trades was to get rid of guys who weren't buying in or didn't fit. This is going to take time.

 

Trust The Process = be patient while we suck but soon thereafter we will be great.

The Bills were 8-8 and 7-9 under some pretty horrific coaching by Ryan, yet it was a "miracle" they got to 5 wins this year?  It's only a miracle because Beane and McDermott made the roster older and slower in the off season.

 

If McDermott believes the Bills are in the hunt, and if there is a process, he should have started Taylor against the Chargers, Chiefs, and Patriots.  If the Bills lose those games, then give Peterman a chance by starting him at home against the Colts.  

 

That would have been the patient move.  That would indicate a process is being followed.

 

Instead we have the current mess.  There is no process.  McDermott has no master plan.  He's proving himself to be an average coach who is winging it.  He's in over his head. 

 

[HamSandwhich]

49 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said:

The Bills were 8-8 and 7-9 under some pretty horrific coaching by Ryan, yet it was a "miracle" they got to 5 wins this year?  It's only a miracle because Beane and McDermott made the roster older and slower in the off season.

 

If McDermott believes the Bills are in the hunt, and if there is a process, he should have started Taylor against the Chargers, Chiefs, and Patriots.  If the Bills lose those games, then give Peterman a chance by starting him at home against the Colts.  

 

That would have been the patient move.  That would indicate a process is being followed.

 

Instead we have the current mess.  There is no process.  McDermott has no master plan.  He's proving himself to be an average coach who is winging it.  He's in over his head. 

 

Tsk tsk, people already making judgements om the tenure and coming to a conclusion after just over half a season. It's going to take time.

 

What did you all expect? Honestly, going into the season after trading Darby and Watkins, did we believe we were going places? Most thought we were tanking. What do you expect the coach to say?  "Yeah, you guys are right, we're tanking"? No coach ever does that.  Did anyone really think we were as good as our record? I assume most of us were ready for the other shoe to drop. So why are people so surprised and angry when the bottom drops out? 

 

It's your OPINION he doesnt have a plan, I think he's doing what he can to win now but they've depleted their roster to the bone and have a lot of short contracts on the team with vets. That tells me they are making themselves as flexible as possible for this offseason. A chance for the to build the roster they believe will win. I trust he knows what he's doing, though he is human and can make mistakes. Trust the process, which really begins after this season. 

 

It's too bad this world is all about instant gratification. That rarely happens in the NFL, cultures change over years, not half seasons. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

McClapper strikes again 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

....by the title, thought it was a story how he bagged an 8 pointer.....oh well.............

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

we're in the hunt

 

it starts with one

 

trust the process

 

all talk and no action.

 

same old bills

 

 

 

 

[BillsFan130]

8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

 

Isn't the GM Mr Beane supposed to be in charge of these moves?

Both of them. From my understanding McD has a big say on personnel moves. And he is a defensive coach, (well supposed to be anyways) so I can almost guarantee he had a big influence on some of the players he traded away/brought in

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said:

Tsk tsk, people already making judgements om the tenure and coming to a conclusion after just over half a season. It's going to take time.

 

What did you all expect? Honestly, going into the season after trading Darby and Watkins, did we believe we were going places? Most thought we were tanking. What do you expect the coach to say?  "Yeah, you guys are right, we're tanking"? No coach ever does that.  Did anyone really think we were as good as our record? I assume most of us were ready for the other shoe to drop. So why are people so surprised and angry when the bottom drops out? 

 

It's your OPINION he doesnt have a plan, I think he's doing what he can to win now but they've depleted their roster to the bone and have a lot of short contracts on the team with vets. That tells me they are making themselves as flexible as possible for this offseason. A chance for the to build the roster they believe will win. I trust he knows what he's doing, though he is human and can make mistakes. Trust the process, which really begins after this season. 

 

It's too bad this world is all about instant gratification. That rarely happens in the NFL, cultures change over years, not half seasons. 

They traded Watkins, have tried to implement the worst possible offense for Taylor & decimated the Offense.  Heck Boldin came here and as soon as the trade was made said sayonara........  Tells me something fundamentally wrong with the offense and the OC.

 

How terrible the idea of winning is for some.  Falling for the line that a .500 team had no shot.......  

 

Now Atlanta went from 8-8 in 2015 to the SB in 2016, New Orleans this year (7-9 in 2016), Dallas 4-12 2015 to 13-3, Philly, Oakland 7-9 to 12-4......  And this is not all about the QB's......  Coaching helps too, but in every case I've shown the Offenses all are good.....  

 

But Buffalo decided to decimate the Offense and no effort to improve the passing game (by passing the ball!!!!!). 

Edited November 23, 2017 by Billsfan1972

[BillsFan130]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Getting us to 5 wins is a miracle in itself. Any other coach would have gotten one or two wins. Getting a sixth for Marcy was terrible but all the other trades were solid . The main point of the trades was to get rid of guys who weren't buying in or didn't fit. This is going to take time.

 

Trust The Process = be patient while we suck but soon thereafter we will be great.

Let's be honest, whoever has watched the Bills this year knows that probably 3 of those wins were very lucky as so many things went their way.

 

I don't agree with all the trades but they did it. For them to be successful in 2 years they are going to have to hit home runs on the next 2 drafts. Very hard to do.

 

And I didn't expect the Bills to be good but I thought I would at least see improvements. They are getting worse as the season goes on. 

 

If they started slow and reversed the trend, I would have a lot more faith in him. 

 

But it's the opposite and it really makes me wonder what exactly this guy has accomplished/built

2 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

And centre. Can’t stand that one.

That's how Canadians spell it lol. Its not wrong for us

[HamSandwhich]

29 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

They traded Watkins, have tried to implement the worst possible offense for Taylor & decimated the Offense.  Heck Boldin came here and as soon as the trade was made said sayonara........  Tells me something fundamentally wrong with the offense and the OC.

 

How terrible the idea of winning is for some.  Falling for the line that a .500 team had no shot.......  

 

Now Atlanta went from 8-8 in 2015 to the SB in 2016, New Orleans this year (7-9 in 2016), Dallas 4-12 2015 to 13-3, Philly, Oakland 7-9 to 12-4......  And this is not all about the QB's......  Coaching helps too, but in every case I've shown the Offenses all are good.....  

 

But Buffalo decided to decimate the Offense and no effort to improve the passing game (by passing the ball!!!!!). 

Or like I said, there is a process and the process is actually to clean house and start from the foundation.  The coach is not going to come out and say that they are tanking, he does not want to lose the locker room right off the bat.  How is that so hard to understand? 

 

I don't understand what you're saying when you say "how terrible the idea of winning is for some".  What do you mean by that?  Did I say I hate winning or something? 

 

Your talk about how teams went from middling to low on the totem pole to playoff teams in one year seems to be something that would add to the idea of a process.  You can suck out one year and win the next year with the right moves. 

 

It seems to me from what you're saying, you think the Bills won't make any moves to improve the offense next year.  The whole offseason, you expect no improvement with personnel, or perhaps coaching? 

 

[BadLandsMeanie]

It isn't that we are losing that is so annoying. It is that we have been losing as if the players don't know how or want to play, and the coaches are drunk. Making headlines, for being the worst losses ever. The most interpretations ever. The most yards gained ever, The most consecutive touchdowns without trowing a pass ever. The most series of downs without forcing a punt ever. These are the records this team is challenging for.

 

It doesn't have to be that bad to rebuild a roster.

 

Then we have the coach pretending that he doesn't understand this. We are "in the hunt". Another slogan.That is what I think makes people angry.

 

 

Edited November 23, 2017 by BadLandsMeanie

[FappyTheClown]

12 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Just remember, most of these guys are basically gym teachers who’ve made it very far.  It helps me to think about it that way sometimes.

 

Sometimes I have to remind myself that all these players are millionaires. 

 

And what kind of hunt are we talking about? The hunt for mediocrity? The hunt for turkey? The hunt for higher draft picks? The hunt for really rebuilding next year? The hunt for Red October? (Never seen that movie - is it any good?) 

[26CornerBlitz]

7 minutes ago, FappyTheClown said:

 

Sometimes I have to remind myself that all these players are millionaires. 

 

And what kind of hunt are we talking about? The hunt for mediocrity? The hunt for turkey? The hunt for higher draft picks? The hunt for really rebuilding next year? The hunt for Red October? (Never seen that movie - is it any good?) 

 

No they aren't.

[nedboy7]

So many pathetic losers.  I don't remember Buffalo being like this.  Must be some real choice gems posting.  All you losers do is bash the team the coach the players.  I wonder why you even watch. 

[Billsfan1972]

29 minutes ago, FappyTheClown said:

 

Sometimes I have to remind myself that all these players are millionaires. 

 

And what kind of hunt are we talking about? The hunt for mediocrity? The hunt for turkey? The hunt for higher draft picks? The hunt for really rebuilding next year? The hunt for Red October? (Never seen that movie - is it any good?) 

Beane & McDermott don't want millionaires......  They ship them out.......  Watkins, Dareus, Darby........

[Bill Murray]

13 hours ago, leonbus23 said:

Hahaha

[SoTier]

12 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

You guys probably would have wanted Belichek gone after the first 5-11 season. 

 

Belichick never coached a team that got butt-whipped as badly as consistently as McDermott's Bills, either.

 

10 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

The race car with a bad engine that keeps falling further and further behind but finishes the race is "in the hunt."

 

Hey, ya never can tell ... he might be running last, but if there's a late race caution and everybody's gotta pit for gas but him so they're all a lap down ...

 

8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Getting us to 5 wins is a miracle in itself. Any other coach would have gotten one or two wins. Getting a sixth for Marcy was terrible but all the other trades were solid . The main point of the trades was to get rid of guys who weren't buying in or didn't fit. This is going to take time.

 

Trust The Process = be patient while we suck but soon thereafter we will be great.

 

It must be something in the water in Allegany County ...

[EmotionallyUnstable]

16 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

So many pathetic losers.  I don't remember Buffalo being like this.  Must be some real choice gems posting.  All you losers do is bash the team the coach the players.  I wonder why you even watch. 

 

Happy Thanksgiving