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18 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

So many pathetic losers.  I don't remember Buffalo being like this.  Must be some real choice gems posting.  All you losers do is bash the team the coach the players.  I wonder why you even watch. 

 

 

oh nedboy, there you go again allowing those who don't wear the glasses or drink the kool-aide ruin your day.

 

what's pathetic is you thinking anyone gives a !@#$ what you think.

 

have an extra serving of pumpkin pie and put an extra scoop of cool whip on it and find something much better to worry about.

 

 

 

poor fella.

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7 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

 

oh nedboy, there you go again allowing those who don't wear the glasses or drink the kool-aide ruin your day.

 

what's pathetic is you thinking anyone gives a !@#$ what you think.

 

have an extra serving of pumpkin pie and put an extra scoop of cool whip on it and find something much better to worry about.

 

 

 

poor fella.

 

 

...Day Care is closed today and parents are not supervising...........

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8 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

 

oh nedboy, there you go again allowing those who don't wear the glasses or drink the kool-aide ruin your day.

 

what's pathetic is you thinking anyone gives a !@#$ what you think.

 

have an extra serving of pumpkin pie and put an extra scoop of cool whip on it and find something much better to worry about.

 

 

 

poor fella.

I don't think SDS will appreciate you trying to get around the swearing detection system...

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11 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

I expected him to improve on the defence not regress. That's asking a lot?

 

A big reason they are trash is because he decided to trade good players away. That's on him


2015 - 24th

2016 - 27th

2017 - 21st

 

Not great, but not regressing.

 

And not nearly as sloppy as the last two years with players running around like chickens with their heads cut off before snaps.

 

And Beane traded away the players, not McDermott, fwiw.

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10 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

No they weren't. What media was? Are there any facts you can actually point to?

 

You were wrong on point a and try to deflect with this. This all has nothing to do with McDermott. Whether it's releasing Gilmore or your interpretation of the media's reaction.

 

 

 

http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/01/05/3-reasons-bills-cant-afford-to-lose-cb-stephon-gilmore/

 

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-free-agency-re-sign-offseason-contracts-patriots-cowboys-steelers-chiefs-122916

 

Gilmore was a "must resign"

20 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Belichick never coached a team that got butt-whipped as badly as consistently as McDermott's Bills, either.

 

 

McD never started 0-4 in his first season either. 

22 minutes ago, SoTier said:

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It must be something in the water in Allegany County ...

 

You must have been a fan of Whaley's "Trade EVERYTHING NOW FOR 9 WINS" system

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6 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

I don't think SDS will appreciate you trying to get around the swearing detection system...

 

 

who was trying to get around it? seems if one were to use acronyms then I could see a problem but it looks as though it's filtered to show characters in place of letters leaving those not knowing what swear word was used?

 

are we in a bubble here?

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11 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

You can think and say what you want.


I'm personally hesitant to judge a man I've never met - and only know from a few interviews and pressers - so harshly.  

 

Not judging the man as a person but as a coach. Thinking he can coach up any level of talent, getting rid of players who they could have kept for at least a season, could have eased the transition. But no, his actions with Beane are clearly indicative of egoistic tendencies. Those decisions plus the unforgivable mis-judgement on Peterman's readiness to play is blowing up in his face. 

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12 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:


2015 - 24th

2016 - 27th

2017 - 21st

 

Not great, but not regressing.

 

And not nearly as sloppy as the last two years with players running around like chickens with their heads cut off before snaps.

 

And Beane traded away the players, not McDermott, fwiw.

21st is for defence?

 

I believe they are 27th in yards and 30th in points. If you are referring to 21st I'm guessing that's total defence when they were getting tons of turnovers the first 6 weeks. Obviously not sustainable

 

The defence is getting worse as the year goes on as well.

 

Which tells me teams are figuring out his scheme and the Bills haven't adjusted.

 

Very low talent like you've said, but this is the defence him and Beane are making and it's simply terrible right now

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

So many pathetic losers.  I don't remember Buffalo being like this.  Must be some real choice gems posting.  All you losers do is bash the team the coach the players.  I wonder why you even watch. 

 

17 years soon to be 18.

 

Fans have every right to bash this pathetic organization from top to bottom. And when another (not as) terrible team like the Ravens or Chargers makes the playoffs this year with an 8-8 record it will sting even more knowing this team squandered another chance in a down season to get in.

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5 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said:

 

17 years soon to be 18.

 

Fans have every right to bash this pathetic organization from top to bottom. And when another (not as) terrible team like the Ravens or Chargers makes the playoffs this year with an 8-8 record it will sting even more knowing this team squandered another chance in a down season to get in.

 

...Jesus, in a top to bottom year of newness, MAJOR transition and upheaval, what the hell did you LOGICALLY expect?....only damn thing that happens OVERNIGHT is jello.......seriously?...

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23 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:

Thats right. They want team players. Not selfish, all about them players

 

That defense look like "team players" last few weeks?:lol:

 

Whole lotta' very personal , selfish business decisions getting made on that side of the ball.........lotta' guys not taking on blocks, not maintaining gap responsibilities,  arm tackling or just throwing shoulders and simply not flying to the football.

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2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

That defense look like "team players" last few weeks?:lol:

 

Whole lotta' very personal , selfish business decisions getting made on that side of the ball.........lotta' guys not taking on blocks, not maintaining gap responsibilities,  arm tackling or just throwing shoulders and simply not flying to the football.

I think its not selfishness. If it was they wouldnt be on the team. Mcdermott has shown you and the world he wont tolerate that. I put it on the coaching staff and some of it on tge actuall athletic ability of some of the players. You had to have seen Alexander get burned in coverage multiple times. That is isnt selfishness, thats poor coaching, and lack of athletic ability. Similarly, the multiple times Allen got home big wasnt due to selfishness but rather the ridiculous notion that any backer in the league let alone the bills can cover him.

so while it my seem very cursory at the depth you are looking at it rest assured these players arent behaving selfishly as in any many consistent with Sammy or Dareus. 

13 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Lol how's that working out for them so far?

 

13 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Lol how's that working out for them so far?

Like I stated un the previous post that hasnt been fully appreciated. For a historically bad franchise being run by some of the worst NFL people in the league, the notion that the Bills were going to compete for a deep playoff spot or a championship is just unrealistic, naïveté, and juvenile to boot. There is literally no way this team is going to compete without flushing it of the stench that has been the buffalo bills for multiple decades. That takes some time. Im willing to wait, because frankly there is no other option.

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4 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:

I think its not selfishness. If it was they wouldnt be on the team. Mcdermott has shown you and the world he wont tolerate that. I put it on the coaching staff and some of it on tge actuall athletic ability of some of the players. You had to have seen Alexander get burned in coverage multiple times. That is isnt selfishness, thats poor coaching, and lack of athletic ability. Similarly, the multiple times Allen got home big wasnt due to selfishness but rather the ridiculous notion that any backer in the league let alone the bills can cover him.

so while it my seem very cursory at the depth you are looking at it rest assured these players arent behaving selfishly as in any many consistent with Sammy or Dareus. 

 

Like I stated un the previous post that hasnt been fully appreciated. For a historically bad franchise being run by some of the worst NFL people in the league, the notion that the Bills were going to compete for a deep playoff spot or a championship is just unrealistic, naïveté, and juvenile to boot. There is literally no way this team is going to compete without flushing it of the stench that has been the buffalo bills for multiple decades. That takes some time. Im willing to wait, because frankly there is no other option.

It shouldn't take 3 to 5 years to turn around a franchise. Want a few examples?

 

Seahawks in 2012, chiefs in 2013, Rams this year.

 

I didn't expect the bills to make the playoffs this year but I also didn't expect them to regress massively on both sides of  the ball including having one of the worst defences in the league with a "defensive head coach"

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11 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:

I think its not selfishness. If it was they wouldnt be on the team. Mcdermott has shown you and the world he wont tolerate that. I put it on the coaching staff and some of it on tge actuall athletic ability of some of the players. You had to have seen Alexander get burned in coverage multiple times. That is isnt selfishness, thats poor coaching, and lack of athletic ability. Similarly, the multiple times Allen got home big wasnt due to selfishness but rather the ridiculous notion that any backer in the league let alone the bills can cover him.

so while it my seem very cursory at the depth you are looking at it rest assured these players arent behaving selfishly as in any many consistent with Sammy or Dareus. 

 

Like I stated un the previous post that hasnt been fully appreciated. For a historically bad franchise being run by some of the worst NFL people in the league, the notion that the Bills were going to compete for a deep playoff spot or a championship is just unrealistic, naïveté, and juvenile to boot. There is literally no way this team is going to compete without flushing it of the stench that has been the buffalo bills for multiple decades. That takes some time. Im willing to wait, because frankly there is no other option.

 

Who has been the best player on defense?

 

Micah Hyde right?

 

Check out his attempt at a tackle on the play he got hurt.

 

Just tossed a shoulder in........didn't want to wrap up.

 

Nobody on that defense has been all-in.

 

This year was supposed to be different......and it is a TYPICAL mid-season doldrums run killing playoff aspirations by the Bills..........but it is different because it's WORSE than it's EVER BEEN.

 

Worst string of defense in team history and worst half of QB play by an NFL QB by Nate Peterman since the Bills have been IN the NFL.  :lol:

 

 

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9 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

It shouldn't take 3 to 5 years to turn around a franchise. Want a few examples?

 

Seahawks in 2012, chiefs in 2013, Rams this year.

 

I didn't expect the bills to make the playoffs this year but I also didn't expect them to regress massively on both sides of  the ball including having one of the worst defences in the league with a "defensive head coach"

Every football team is different. 

The seahawks team you referenced had a majority of that talent (unselfish team players) before 2012 and werent in salary cap hell.

The 2012 chiefs was exactly the same.

The Rams just got their franchise qb.

these things take time.

 

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Who has been the best player on defense?

 

Micah Hyde right?

 

Check out his attempt at a tackle on the play he got hurt.

 

Just tossed a shoulder in........didn't want to wrap up.

 

Nobody on that defense has been all-in.

 

This year was supposed to be different......and it is a TYPICAL mid-season doldrums run killing playoff aspirations by the Bills..........but it is different because it's WORSE than it's EVER BEEN.

 

Worst string of defense in team history and worst half of QB play by an NFL QB by Nate Peterman since the Bills have been IN the NFL.  :lol:

 

 

So he got hurt on a tackle attmpet yet that is somehow deemed selfish?

You and I bith know thats not the case. There were plenty of other Hyde tackles during the half of football. Its more likely he was trying to dislodge the ball to get the offense the ball back.

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It makes me laugh that the thought is if Peterman started against KC The Bills would be in danger of "Losing the locker room at least the veterans" yet it's those veterans that are leading this giant bag of flaming dog poo. The QB controversy is a joke but not as big of a joke as this defense has become . 135 points in 3 games!?!? That's the joke. And I hope McDermott told these marshmallows that in the locker room after practice. These Sorry ass soft creampuffs couldn't stop a leaky faucet. I love how the QB situation is deflecting the real issue here. Not to mention the absolute turnstile the O line has become. ???????

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16 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I think the Bills are hopeless, but think about it for a minute.   He's a coach.   He's supposed to be leading 53 men and getting them to perform their best.   He MUST tell his team they're in the hunt.   He can't stand in front of them and say "We suck.  We're just trying to figure out how not to embarrass ourselves again."   Can't say that.   So if he can't say it to his team, he can't say it in public.  

 

Until they're mathematically eliminated, he has to say this stuff.  

 

I'm really scared.   There's a good chance that KC will roll over the Bills on Sunday.   They're home, they're desperate, they have better talent and they're better coached.   It's a real good bet that the Pats will roll over the Bills, too.   It's quite possible that the Bills put together the ugliest five-game stretch in the history of the league.   It's possible they'll give up 200 points in five games.   

 

Let's see what McDermott has to say when THAT happens.  

Trust the process??

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2 hours ago, billsfan11 said:

Lol how's that working out for them so far?

10 games into their 1st season, 5-5 with a roster full of scrap heap castoffs, not too bad.  They’ve already pushed on the win total line with a chance to win the bet.  I was expecting 3-4 wins this year.  We have 5.  It’s not working out too bad considering we have an awful OL, DL, LBs and our TE and WRs can’t stay healthy.   I’d like to see what they can do once they use the picks they acquired and sign players with the room they created.  Add a legit QB and it could be special.  Is that drinking Millais or just the reality of the situation?  

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9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

10 games into their 1st season, 5-5 with a roster full of scrap heap castoffs, not too bad.  They’ve already pushed on the win total line with a chance to win the bet.  I was expecting 3-4 wins this year.  We have 5.  It’s not working out too bad considering we have an awful OL, DL, LBs and our TE and WRs can’t stay healthy.   I’d like to see what they can do once they use the picks they acquired and sign players with the room they created.  Add a legit QB and it could be special.  Is that drinking Millais or just the reality of the situation?  

If you're happy just because their record says 5 and 5 then by all means.

 

But everyone knows that 2 or 3 of those wins were extremely lucky where they got virtually every break. That's just not sustainable to force 3 plus turnovers a game

 

The reality of situation is they are 5 and 5 with the 27th ranked offence and the 30th ranked defence. They are on a sharp decline and look worse by the week.

 

If you're happy that they won 2 or 3 of those 5 games by great bounces and a massive turnover differential then fair enough. But I can't see how that will benefit them in the future because it's an unsustainable method of winning. As we are now witnessing

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13 minutes ago, NewEra said:

10 games into their 1st season, 5-5 with a roster full of scrap heap castoffs, not too bad.  They’ve already pushed on the win total line with a chance to win the bet.  I was expecting 3-4 wins this year.  We have 5.  It’s not working out too bad considering we have an awful OL, DL, LBs and our TE and WRs can’t stay healthy.   I’d like to see what they can do once they use the picks they acquired and sign players with the room they created.  Add a legit QB and it could be special.  Is that drinking Millais or just the reality of the situation?  

 

 

That's not the way it works though........they are the reason the roster is so stripped down.........and they are coming off the worst string of 3 games in franchise history.   

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3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

hang on to that hope, as long as you can. 

 

to answer your question, barely. by a very thin margin that should be all but wiped out come dec 2nd.

 

 

 

Hey.......remember when they annonced Peterman was the starter and you shouted me down when I said Taylor could be back in the lineup any minute.......and then Taylor was back in the lineup after just one half of football?

 

That was funny.:lol:

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

Hey.......remember when they annonced Peterman was the starter and you shouted me down when I said Taylor could be back in the lineup any minute.......and then Taylor was back in the lineup after just one half of football?

 

That was funny.:lol:

 

 

 

yeah that was real funny.

 

so was this

 

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9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

That's not the way it works though........they are the reason the roster is so stripped down.........and they are coming off the worst string of 3 games in franchise history.   

Exactly. For me I could care less they are 5 and 5. 

 

I would rather them be 3 and 7 and actually look like they are coming together and playing better as the year goes on. 

 

But they are in the opposite trend and to your point, have been historically bad the last 3 weeks. 

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10 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

yeah that was real funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh don't be mad...........not my fault you've been a Bills fan since 1973 and somehow thought Taylor wouldn't get back on the field.

 

Even if the option wasn't an ill-equipped/prepared Nate Peterman............this is the Bills for chrissake.

 

Yeah they've had some stability at the position with Taylor for a couple years(including best offense in 25 years in 2016).......but prior to that they've been yanking and switching QB's around almost every year or two for a DECADE.

 

Honestly some of you just can't be taught.

 

Now you are on here being all emo simply because you thought Peterman was Nate Favre....... :( 

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6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Oh don't be mad...........not my fault you've been a Bills fan since 1973 and somehow thought Taylor wouldn't get back on the field.

 

Even if the option wasn't an ill-equipped/prepared Nate Peterman............this is the Bills for chrissake.

 

Yeah they've had some stability at the position with Taylor for a couple years(including best offense in 25 years in 2016).......but prior to that they've been yanking and switching QB's around almost every year or two for a DECADE.

 

Honestly some of you just can't be taught.

 

Now you are on here being all emo simply because you thought Peterman was Nate Favre....... :( 

 

And that “best offense in 25 years” was only good for average. Some of us aspire for better 

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3 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

What's the record pre-strip down?

 

 

0-0

 

If your point is what would their record be if they had simply started Nate Peterman all year......0-10 would be my guess and someone not on the roster would be playing QB right now with Lil' Nay Pete on IR.

 

Problem is that the early season is always fools gold and new coaching staffs have an advantage early on because there is no tape of their players playing their schemes.

 

As I said early in the year.......by midseason the X's and O's matter less.........and the Jimmie's and Joe's matter more.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

And that “best offense in 25 years” was only good for average. Some of us aspire for better 

 

7th in scoring with the fewest turnovers ever thru 15 games isn't average.  Not debatable.

 

I know you are as mentally soft as a marshmallow so you can't appreciate the value of a resilient defense.....but defense is important.......also usually easy to fix.......which is a bad look for McDefense.:thumbsup: 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

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If your point is what would their record be if they had simply started Nate Peterman all year......0-10 would be my guess and someone not on the roster would be playing QB right now with Lil' Nay Pete on IR.

 

Problem is that the early season is always fools gold and new coaching staffs have an advantage early on because there is no tape of their players playing their schemes.

 

As I said early in the year.......by midseason the X's and O's matter less.........and the Jimmie's and Joe's matter more.

 

 

 

 

7th in scoring with the fewest turnovers ever thru 15 games isn't average.  Not debatable.

 

I know you are as mentally soft as a marshmallow so you can't appreciate the value of a resilient defense.....but defense is important.......also usually easy to fix.......which is a bad look for McDefense.:thumbsup: 

 

 

 

The softness must be due to three years of run run pass punt. 

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1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Oh don't be mad...........not my fault you've been a Bills fan since 1973 and somehow thought Taylor wouldn't get back on the field.

 

Even if the option wasn't an ill-equipped/prepared Nate Peterman............this is the Bills for chrissake.

 

Yeah they've had some stability at the position with Taylor for a couple years(including best offense in 25 years in 2016).......but prior to that they've been yanking and switching QB's around almost every year or two for a DECADE.

 

Honestly some of you just can't be taught.

 

Now you are on here being all emo simply because you thought Peterman was Nate Favre....... :( 

 

 

you have a very poor way of reading people. I don't know if that's something you can teach or just comes with time. I was just yanking your chain the same as you were yanking mine. no real emotion involved, especially anger or in your words mad/emo. 

 

no, it would take a hell of a lot more then that to make me mad. if anything I'm mad at myself for hanging in there as long as I have. difference now is I find it much easier to just let go of any hope. hope, mainly false hope is what bills fans have been living on. this season is no different then any of the other so called rebuilds and so far looking like the same (that may of been the worst 3 game stretch I've ever witnessed or remember anyway) end result. 

 

as for peterman, sure I was pulling for the kid, another good case of false hope on my behalf. you seem to have some hope  for taylor and I certainly wont call you out when he continues to be taylor and he too joins the list, long list of failed attempts at finding stability at the most important position.

 

I've wrote this season off, my choice. after the last three weeks, I don't see any miraculous turn around so they'll miss the post season and lure us in to the off season with all those picks and try and lead the fan base to believe that the process will work and they're building a team with one goal in mind, a championship.

 

it's what keeps us coming back year after year, always thinking this will be the year, how cliche'.

 

I have no choice but to sit back and wait to see if they can bring their "trust the process" in to fruition and finally field a contender?

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27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

That's not the way it works though........they are the reason the roster is so stripped down.........and they are coming off the worst string of 3 games in franchise history.   

And they are in year 1 if a rebuild.......not sure what everyone expected this year.  Most people that know football expected us to be exactly what we are right now.  Sammy was gone after this year.  Dareus wasn’t buying in and was being tremendously overpaid. Darby was a completely different player in year 2 compared to year 1.  Now we have 2nd 3rd and 5th rd picks to help replace them.  

 

Gillislee is a healthy scratch every week.  Woods wasn’t coming back to play offensive line a 5th straight year.  Zach Brown is the guy I wished we have paid.  He could be a difference maker on this D.  

 

We have 4 draft picks that look like a solid foundation (white, Zay, Dawkins and Milano). If we can draft well again this year and add the proper free agents this can be a competitive team again.  

 

This is year one in a rebuild.  Not sure what you guys expected.  The 5-2 start got everyone thinking playoffs (myself included) when in reality, we were an over achieving bunch of scrappers.  After a few games, the opposition identified our weaknesses and are taking full advantage.  

 

If there’s one thing I have confidence in, it’s that we have no idea what the future of this current regime holds.  Those here that are sure McBeane is a failure just like to say “I told you so”.  Those that “know” that McBeane is going to take us to the promised land are overly optimistic and include some koolaid drinkers.  Personally, i like these guys, but we are still a couple years from a verdict. I won’t judge them from jettisoning under performing and soon be be expensive talent in exchange for draft picks. Beane stated he believed in building through the draft.  This is exactly what they are doing and I look forward to watching them.  Those that hate, hate and hate more, make sure to take your blood pressure medicine.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

And they are in year 1 if a rebuild.......not sure what everyone expected this year.  Most people that know football expected us to be exactly what we are right now.  Sammy was gone after this year.  Dareus wasn’t buying in and was being tremendously overpaid. Darby was a completely different player in year 2 compared to year 1.  Now we have 2nd 3rd and 5th rd picks to help replace them.  

 

Gillislee is a healthy scratch every week.  Woods wasn’t coming back to play offensive line a 5th straight year.  Zach Brown is the guy I wished we have paid.  He could be a difference maker on this D.  

 

We have 4 draft picks that look like a solid foundation (white, Zay, Dawkins and Milano). If we can draft well again this year and add the proper free agents this can be a competitive team again.  

 

This is year one in a rebuild.  Not sure what you guys expected.  The 5-2 start got everyone thinking playoffs (myself included) when in reality, we were an over achieving bunch of scrappers.  After a few games, the opposition identified our weaknesses and are taking full advantage.  

 

If there’s one thing I have confidence in, it’s that we have no idea what the future of this current regime holds.  Those here that are sure McBeane is a failure just like to say “I told you so”.  Those that “know” that McBeane is going to take us to the promised land are overly optimistic and include some koolaid drinkers.  Personally, i like these guys, but we are still a couple years from a verdict. I won’t judge them from jettisoning under performing and soon be be expensive talent in exchange for draft picks. Beane stated he believed in building through the draft.  This is exactly what they are doing and I look forward to watching them.  Those that hate, hate and hate more, make sure to take your blood pressure medicine.

 

 

 

 

 


The easiest thing to do is cut players that are higher maintenance and lose and call it a rebuild.......so if THAT is your opening statement.......then you aren't open to discussion and there is no point.

 

If you are good with what you are seeing just kick back and enjoy.:thumbsup:

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