MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I have been hating on Dareus for a while (mostly to myself, not on this board), as I believe a lot of fans have been. Getting suspended last year, not being in shape, the apparent "whatever man" attitude. He is flamed, and deservedly, all the time on our board and in the press. This morning I was shocked to find myself feeling pangs of sympathy for Big Puff. The defense is getting rave reviews and, as McDermott has implied, the bus left without Dareus a few weeks ago. One tackle YTD. But just maybe being sent home in the preseason and being left out of the praise the defense has won this year is just what was needed. At some point, you would think pride would motivate him. Leslie Frazier is emphatic that Dareus is fully bought in. Perhaps he is just being the good cop to McDermott's bad cop. But perhaps it is true. And if it was and Dareus elevated his game to 2014 levels, it would be like getting a high first round pick in mid-season for free, as we have got nothing from a pro-bowl caliber DT that we are already paying. So starting today I give the big man his last chance (as if he is waiting on a chance from me!) I am pulling for him until he gives me a SINGLE reason not yo do so. One more suspension, one more disciplinary problem and I would cut his big butt, cap hit be damned. Now or never. But until then, I am an unrepentant Dareus fan. I am going to believe he finally gets the message and emerges as a dominant force in the middle following the bye when he is fully healthy. Wouldn't that be awesome? Go Bills, get those dirty birds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I'll believe it when I see it. Still don't think he gives a sh*t about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I have been hating on Dareus for a while (mostly to myself, not on this board), as I believe a lot of fans have been. Getting suspended last year, not being in shape, the apparent "whatever man" attitude. He is flamed, and deservedly, all the time on our board and in the press. This morning I was shocked to find myself feeling pangs of sympathy for Big Puff. The defense is getting rave reviews and, as McDermott has implied, the bus left without Dareus a few weeks ago. One tackle YTD. But just maybe being sent home in the preseason and being left out of the praise the defense has won this year is just what was needed. At some point, you would think pride would motivate him. Leslie Frazier is emphatic that Dareus is fully bought in. Perhaps he is just being the good cop to McDermott's bad cop. But perhaps it is true. And if it was and Dareus elevated his game to 2014 levels, it would be like getting a high first round pick in mid-season for free, as we have got nothing from a pro-bowl caliber DT that we are already paying. So starting today I give the big man his last chance (as if he is waiting on a chance from me!) I am pulling for him until he gives me a SINGLE reason not yo do so. One more suspension, one more disciplinary problem and I would cut his big butt, cap hit be damned. Now or never. But until then, I am an unrepentant Dareus fan. I am going to believe he finally gets the message and emerges as a dominant force in the middle following the bye when he is fully healthy. Wouldn't that be awesome? Go Bills, get those dirty birds! you are an optimist! I can't believe he'll ever be what he should be until i see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 He has to prove it. I am on his bandwagon for the time stated - one more suspension, one more disciplinary problem, and ship him out. It is funny, for a time he was what he should be. Don't think the talent is gone, it is all between the ears and in the chest. We shall see. Go get 'em Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I'm calling it today, Dareus gets 1.5 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Not sure the ankle is good enough for that, but I am hoping. M-A-R-C-E-L, M-A-R-C-E-L! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I'd love for him to. The d could be even better with his talent. But the proof is in the product on the field. There's no reason Kyle plays the way he does and Dareus does not. There's your example. I'll believe it when I see it. If not, just place his butt on the bench and unload him when you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I believe, while his time on the field is limited given the rotations, he will leave his mark today. I'm calling for disruption up front and a sack! but see, I'm not one of those worried about his bank account, how much he weighs or the choice of hat he wears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Hope you're right. Have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 In this D, I don't think Marcel's contribution can be easily summed up with tackle and sack numbers. I'll be paying attention to how many reps he gets, and the effectiveness of the Falcon run game when he's in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 We all have our doubts and want to see it. Agree sacks and tackles are not the sole measure of the man here. Don't care what he makes money-wise, not a negative, he got what he could out of Whaley. I want to see him fired up and putting out effort. If he is and does, the rest should take care of himself. I have chosen to forgive, but not forget, all past sins and am rooting for him. The thing that is hopeful about Marcel - it is not like he is incapable of being very good. But mentally I had kind of written him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The only thing about to breakthrough is his @$$ about to break through the seat of his pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 That is really funny. C'mon Marcel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The only thing about to breakthrough is his @$$ about to break through the seat of his pants that was so funny I forgot to laugh. wonder how many fat asses will be watching from their couch today. my guess is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Judge Dareus by how many blocks he is taking up. If he is getting double-teamed a majority of the day when he's in there, he's doing his job. If he's being handled 1 on 1, then you should really be getting more. But if he ties up 2 guys on a regular basis and allows the LBs to make plays, then he deserves all the credit in the world regardless of what the stat line says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 You bet. C'mon big fella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I 100% blame whaley for his lack of productivity. If you went to your job tommorow and they told you they were gonna pay you 100 million dollars, and guarantee you 50 million (or whatever it is) how much effort would u give? How can u give 100% when you're set for life? They gave him a terrible contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 They did give him a terrible contract. I would like to think I would still give 100% in whatever I chose to do, but clearly that is not so for all. Whaley could not have known which kind person Marcel would be - so no outs was pretty dumb. However, I choose to believe Marcel has spent enough, smoked enough and ate enough to realize there is more to life than money. Go Marcel! Pride takes over. Nobody makes it as far as Marcel has on talent alone. He has performed at a high-level in the NFL. I choose to believe he is going to do so again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 My favorite all time play of his (with the exception of the skins game in toronto where he dominated the entire game and was an unblockable nightmare for them) was just last year in the last dolphins game when he ran down Jarvis Landry from behind and tackled him on a dive. Basically an impossible play for a 330lb dude, still fresh in my mind. He has such talent below the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I'll believe it when I see it. Still don't think he gives a sh*t about football. ...AGREED....AS they say in Mizzou, "show me"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Dude gonna show you bro. Mr. Big Stuff Who do you think you areMr. Big Stuff You're never gonna get my love Now because you wear all those fancy clothes (oh yeah)And have a big fine car, oh yes you do nowDo you think I can afford to give you my love (oh yeah)You think you're higher than every star above Mr. Big Stuff Who do you think you areMr. Big Stuff You're never gonna get my love Now I know all the girls I've seen you withI know you broke their hearts one after another now, bit by bitYou made 'em cry, many poor girls cryWhen they try to keep you happy, they just try to keep you satisfied Mr. Big Stuff, tell me tell meWho do you think you areMr. Big Stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) I 100% blame whaley for his lack of productivity. If you went to your job tommorow and they told you they were gonna pay you 100 million dollars, and guarantee you 50 million (or whatever it is) how much effort would u give? How can u give 100% when you're set for life? They gave him a terrible contract Really? I'd go 100% Rex Ryan's fault. He got a payday for a reason (many fans at the time were happy with) before Ryan's first game as a HC, but many forgot about that. I'm with the OP on this, nice post Edited October 1, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I'll be an optimist today ... I'm fully confident that Dareus will double his tackle total today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Thanks bro. Let's go Marcel! McDermott and Kyle gonna get big fella squared away. I bill-ieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I 100% blame whaley for his lack of productivity. If you went to your job tommorow and they told you they were gonna pay you 100 million dollars, and guarantee you 50 million (or whatever it is) how much effort would u give? How can u give 100% when you're set for life? They gave him a terrible contract Depends if you have any sense of integrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Marcel had his head turned by the sudden riches. Integrity now kicks in and dude is gonna be on his grind (please be true!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 that was so funny I forgot to laugh. wonder how many fat asses will be watching from their couch today. my guess is plenty. But not are paid millions to be athletes, you know paid to be be in shape, lay off the weed, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 But not are paid millions to be athletes, you know paid to be be in shape, lay off the weed, etc. I worry about my own pocket, weight and what I smoke. my nose doesn't need to be in his business or anyone else's for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 In this D, I don't think Marcel's contribution can be easily summed up with tackle and sack numbers. I'll be paying attention to how many reps he gets, and the effectiveness of the Falcon run game when he's in there. yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 He played hurt today. Showed guts. Winning witj great team defense is infectious He will be better as the season goes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Saw he didn't start. Still hurt? Worthy played really well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) He played hurt today. Showed guts. Winning witj great team defense is infectious He will be better as the season goes on yep, for a fat, money hungry captain hat wearing albert haynesworth II. he played hurt, was limping around and wouldn't take himself out. Edited October 1, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Saw he didn't start. Still hurt? Worthy played really well He was hobbling around on the one play I focused on him. Not in the stat line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Mr Big stuff is still one of my favorites. He makes us A LOT BETTER and the big man has almost ZERO FLAWS while on the field. Hope he turns the corner and stays a force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Didn't really pay much attention to Dareus out there. Rush defense got gashed at times but was stout a lot of times too. Overall I think that for the long term health of the defense Dareus better turn things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Only saw him taking double teams. Shaq has been our best run defender and we missed him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 We need to remember how much we need depth and rotation on this team. Dareus, whatever you think of him, is incredibly valuable to said rotation. Hopefully his ankle gets healed up better for next week, the guy is a great space eater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 He is on the road back. Give him credit for playing dinged up today when we were down a run defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 He is on the road back. Give him credit for playing dinged up today when we were down a run defender. Yeah, he is playing on one wheel. I hope he comes back huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Not a big factor today in his limited snaps. Once he heals, we all pray his pride and that light bulb go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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