Big Gun Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 At least the leader seems to be throwing the Rookie under the Bus. Maybe Tyrod should watch the tape and play better before he throws a rookie under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 TT is what he always was...a poor mans Michael Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Maybe Tyrod should watch the tape and play better before he throws a rookie under the bus. Matthew Fairburn @MatthewFairburn 40m40 minutes agoMore Zay Jones said Tyrod Taylor made a good throw. Says he should have come down with the catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 And you need to be too. Our defense played their butts off. Absolutely horrible QB play. He missed receivers all day long and never keeps his eyes downfield. The guy makes me sick. Such a shame we are a average QB away. Yeah we know blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 TT is what he always was...a poor mans Michael Vick. A running back playing qb is how i look at it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 TT is what he always was...a poor mans Michael Vick. Yep, and as soon as the coaching staff realizes that the better off the team will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Matthew Fairburn @MatthewFairburn 40m40 minutes ago More Zay Jones said Tyrod Taylor made a good throw. Says he should have come down with the catch. What do you want him to do? Break what little confidence his QB has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 With Watkins and last years offense, with this years defense, yes. But we never have two units good at the same time. same stuff as last year, you realize how many games we got behind last year when the running game was shut down and we had to rely on our QB? more than half. u blamed the defense all last year. and then u blamed watkins not being there for Tyrod. we werent winning consistantly when Watkins was there.....ever. There were times when Watkins complained about not being targeted. was the coordinator purposely telling Tryod not to throw to him? No, Tyrod wasnt finding him. One possible superstar receiver wasnt taking us too the playoffs with this QB. Guys were open all over the field last year....and im betting they have been this year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Too much is being made of the last play. Zay Jones stumbled a little bit, and wasn't very smooth transitioning to the ball. It was a very tough catch, but it was catchable. At the same time, Tyrod's pass was a little bit high and a little bit behind the receiver. However, as I said, it was catchable and was thrown between three Carolina defenders. A better throw would have helped. But so would better concentration and route running by the receiver. The real problem was that it took 58 minutes to get anywhere close to the end zone, and that we ended the day with 3 points (when only 10 would have won us the game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 What is wrong with Dennison? Play calling today was pathetic. Absolutely terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 same stuff as last year, you realize how many games we got behind last year when the running game was shut down and we had to rely on our QB? more than half. u blamed the defense all last year. and then u blamed watkins not being there for Tyrod. we werent winning consistantly when Watkins was there.....ever. There were times when Watkins complained about not being targeted. was the coordinator purposely telling Tryod not to throw to him? No, Tyrod wasnt finding him. One possible superstar receiver wasnt taking us too the playoffs with this QB. Guys were open all over the field last year....and im betting they have been this year as well. TT and Watkins were one of the best duos in 2015. The second Miami game was on the defense and ST. The offense was 12th and 10th in scoring the last two seasons. The defense was the bigger problem. But with a new offense and no deep threat, which is TTs strength, maybe they should put someone else in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Play calling today was pathetic. Absolutely terrible what plays should he have called to make this QB wake up? Run option? Trick plays? Long Bombs? When a defense dares u to beat them one way, and u cant, Doesnt matter what plays u call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsLux Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Anyone watching the Buffalo Bills for the past few years, knows that Tyrod has trouble executing when the other team knows he has to throw. He is not good as a straight drop-back passer. When used properly, like I believe was done with Anthony Lynn, we can score points using his extreme athletic talent. Out of the pocckets, misdirections, quarterback runs. Dennison didn't do that today. He coached as though Tyrod is a drop back passer and he's not. I find this to be the most disturbing part of the day today. A good coach acknowledges what his talent is and coaches to it. He doesn't stick to what he knows despite the personnel he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 TT and Watkins were one of the best duos in 2015. The second Miami game was on the defense and ST. The offense was 12th and 10th in scoring the last two seasons. The defense was the bigger problem. But with a new offense and no deep threat, which is TTs strength, maybe they should put someone else in. Stats, huh? Watkins and Tyrod were never, ever one of the best duos lmao. Please. Inflated stats from a couple long balls. They had their moments but a great duo is apiar that can make any play at any point in the game. Those guys weren't it lol. Anyone watching the Buffalo Bills for the past few years, knows that Tyrod has trouble executing when the other team knows he has to throw. He is not good as a straight drop-back passer. When used properly, like I believe was done with Anthony Lynn, we can score points using his extreme athletic talent. Out of the pocckets, misdirections, quarterback runs. Dennison didn't do that today. He coached as though Tyrod is a drop back passer and he's not. I find this to be the most disturbing part of the day today. A good coach acknowledges what his talent is and coaches to it. He doesn't stick to what he knows despite the personnel he has. Or just puts in the pocket passer that was drafted and stops playing games with this guy pretending to be a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Stats, huh? Watkins and Tyrod were never, ever one of the best duos lmao. Please. Inflated stats from a couple long balls. They had their moments but a great duo is apiar that can make any play at any point in the game. Those guys weren't it lol. In 2015, yes they were.http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Taylor-to-Watkins-connection-exploding-down-the-stretch/f0862644-a799-4e28-a4b5-5a28852f0448 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Two years ago, when healthy, they were very good. LK is one of the best players in the NFL.Keuchly at LB is what JJ Watt is at DL. Did you see him peel off the receiver to tackle tt in the first half. That was impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Keuchly at LB is what JJ Watt is at DL. Did you see him peel off the receiver to tackle tt in the first half. That was impressive. He's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Can we stop with the bashing of the offensive coordinator? I mean it's crazy that we haven't been able to find a competent OC in the last 17 years. I mean probably has nothing to do with the crazy amount of bad Quarterbacks we have had here. It's not Dennisons fault much like it wasn't AVP, Turk Shonert, etc etc. Get a QB and all of a sudden the OC will look better I am not backing Tyron, but I have to disagree with you in Dennison. He is calling the same pattern of plays over and over. There is no creativity in using formations or anything at all to get our playmakers in space. I-formation on first and run off tackle was called on three drives in the first half.WTF is that. Not one audible calling a draw or run when Carolina was clearly in a cover two or cover three. That is not Tyrod, that is the playcaller, period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 TT and Watkins were one of the best duos in 2015. The second Miami game was on the defense and ST. The offense was 12th and 10th in scoring the last two seasons. The defense was the bigger problem. But with a new offense and no deep threat, which is TTs strength, maybe they should put someone else in. so Tyrods strength is the long bomb. yes, a low percentage play that rarely works when u actually have to move the chains. deep balls are lots of fun, very exciting, they rarely convert 3rd downs. and, if u throw 5, convert 1, does that take the top of the defense for the rest of the game? nope, still 8 in the box, like last year. did you even watch the games? its 5yrd throws or 20+yrd bombs. what happens when its 3rd and 6+? i think u know what happens, if youve been watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 what plays should he have called to make this QB wake up? Run option? Trick plays? Long Bombs? When a defense dares u to beat them one way, and u cant, Doesnt matter what plays u call. . Boot legs. Mis directions. End around. Pretty much anything besides lame runs up the middle on first downs, and on 2nd and mediums. I literally predicted 90 percent of runs and passes today. If I can, pretty sure a defensive coordinator can.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Stats, huh? Watkins and Tyrod were never, ever one of the best duos lmao. Please. Inflated stats from a couple long balls. They had their moments but a great duo is apiar that can make any play at any point in the game. Those guys weren't it lol. Or just puts in the pocket passer that was drafted and stops playing games with this guy pretending to be a QB. Put in a rookie, on the road, against that front seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonehawaii Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 In case you missed it, the ground game stunk. thier d line outplayed ours. Not on tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 so Tyrods strength is the long bomb. yes, a low percentage play that rarely works when u actually have to move the chains. deep balls are lots of fun, very exciting, they rarely convert 3rd downs. and, if u throw 5, convert 1, does that take the top of the defense for the rest of the game? nope, still 8 in the box, like last year. did you even watch the games? its 5yrd throws or 20+yrd bombs. what happens when its 3rd and 6+? i think u know what happens, if youve been watching. You need a deep threat. This roster has none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Anyone watching the Buffalo Bills for the past few years, knows that Tyrod has trouble executing when the other team knows he has to throw. He is not good as a straight drop-back passer. When used properly, like I believe was done with Anthony Lynn, we can score points using his extreme athletic talent. Out of the pocckets, misdirections, quarterback runs. Dennison didn't do that today. He coached as though Tyrod is a drop back passer and he's not. I find this to be the most disturbing part of the day today. A good coach acknowledges what his talent is and coaches to it. He doesn't stick to what he knows despite the personnel he has. I think we saw an adjustment in the second half. Misdirection, roll out, etc. They just didn't get the completions. I wouldn't be shocked to see them run him into the ground. They have no reason not to.On the list of things that I find really annoying, the word McBean has to be right up there.Do you prefer Bea-mot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 So if you're done with Tyrod Taylor, what will you do on Sunday's when he's playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I hate watching him. Bad CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 All should be encouraged by this game. I'm encouraged and excited and thrilled with the way our defense played. But I'm still tired of the same Tyrod Taylor mistakes game in game out. And Denison better step up his offensive game plan or we definitely will have a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Put in a rookie, on the road, against that front seven. Why not? The Browns play Keizer and Hogan against the Ravens who are a hell of a lot better than the Panthers on D and they BOTH looked better than Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Maybe Tyrod should watch the tape and play better before he throws a rookie under the bus. Completely agree tie rod should look at that tape and he'll realize he screwed up on that throw. You do not throw a back-shoulder toss like that when you're rookie wr is running open towards the sideline. He had to spin 180 just to turn back to that ball. Edited September 17, 2017 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'm encouraged and excited and thrilled with the way our defense played. But I'm still tired of the same Tyrod Taylor mistakes game in game out. And Denison better step up his offensive game plan or we definitely will have a top 5 pick. Will the defense continue to play at such a high level if the offense continues to let them down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 In case you missed it, the ground game stunk. thier d line outplayed ours. Not on tyrodit never is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Will the defense continue to play at such a high level if the offense continues to let them down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'm encouraged and excited and thrilled with the way our defense played. But I'm still tired of the same Tyrod Taylor mistakes game in game out. And Denison better step up his offensive game plan or we definitely will have a top 5 pick.. That top 5 choice wont be too bad at all get your QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 To answer your question no eventually they will get worn down and they will get discouraged it'll be just a matter of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 He is only able to play when the running game is on. Any time our running game gets shut down, he never steps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 There's no doubt in my mind that we will draft a QB high next year. Tyrod's days are numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 In case you missed it, the ground game stunk. thier d line outplayed ours. Not on tyrod Never on him. He is never the issue. How was the QB on 3rd down again? Just like week 1. Just like last two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 He is only able to play when the running game is on. Any time our running game gets shut down, he never steps up. Ironically the only way to get the running game going against a team like the Panthers is to throw the ball down the field. So basically the passing game sucks either way, it's just really noticable when we can't run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Completely agree tie rod should look at that tape and he'll realize he screwed up on that throw. You do not throw a back-shoulder toss like that when you're rookie wr is running open towards the sideline. He had to spin 180 just to turn back to that ball. from the replays i sure looks like 1. Zay didnt expect the ball, and 2. He was running toward the sidelines to get out of bounds if it did come to him. Its probably a little bit on both Zay and Tyrod tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) I concur fully, but I knew that going in, and knew Taylor was our best option in this transition year. BUT Taylor just is not clutch enough.. He can make some plays but that throw to Jones sums it up. Taylor saw the route Jones was running and still threw it inaccurately Taylor was not rushed on the throw either, so IMO he just choked. Taylor is our stop gap and will win us enough games to keep us out of a top 5 pick, maybe even a top 10 (that might hurt us trying to move up to 1) .. I knew we would be depending on a stout running game and our D all season, but our running game was pretty bad today as well. Might of been different if Cordy was back, or if Taylor was having a better game. The good news is Indy might end up with the 1st pick and they have a QB so our 2 1st rd picks are looking real good for us in a trade up scenario Edited September 17, 2017 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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