WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I go away for 2 hours, and what the hell happens? I am stunned. Floored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Sammy is gone but Vlad Ducasse remains. cuz we could get a 2nd round pick from a probably bad team. Ducasse is just going to get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 We ARE the Browns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm sick to my stomach. This just confirms my biggest fear about handing the organization to young guys that are the "smartest guys in the room." It has that McDaniels feel to me at the moment. These are terrible trades. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 More mid round picks to trade away on draft day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 the patriots have a track record of sustained success the likes of which is rarely seen in sports. the bills have a track record of getting their tongue stuck to the same light post year after year after year. Not the point, though. It's a team that knows they aren't re-signing a player that will command big money in free agency and getting something for that player instead of just losing them the following year. This difference is the Patriots didn't need Jones and we probably needed Sammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm sick to my stomach. This just confirms my biggest fear about handing the organization to young guys that are the "smartest guys in the room." It has that McDaniels feel to me at the moment. These are terrible trades. We can't judge the trades yet. We'll judge them in two years once we've seen who the picks acquire. If those picks don't work out, then we'll be looking for another new coach at the end of the 2018 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Wow-- shocking news. They must be preparing for the 2018 draft, and realize this season is pretty much a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm sick to my stomach. This just confirms my biggest fear about handing the organization to young guys that are the "smartest guys in the room." It has that McDaniels feel to me at the moment. These are terrible trades. It's like their in a backassward bizzaro world arms race with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I would be shocked to see some serious disdain on the part of the players after McDermott doing something like this.... If the players haven't firmly bought into what McDermott is selling, isn't a move like this something that can truly put these players into the "eff this new coach" mindset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Truly I think Sammy has lost a step. Very deliberate with each step as if he's favoring that foot. My heart of hearts tells me he injures that foot again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Sammy is gone but Vlad Ducasse remains. if I don't laugh I'll cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Save us cap$ for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 i don't know how to see it any other way. if they don't make a move for a qb in the draft, i'll be pretty amazed. I'll be amazed if that QB isn't a total bust. Haha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Ginger Hammer had fallen!!!!! Snikeees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Sean McBean fixing Whaley's mistakes. Yeah, trading a wr with top 5 ability for a cb with 2 INTs is a great move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 They're obviously playing for 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I would be shocked to see some serious disdain on the part of the players after McDermott doing something like this.... If the players haven't firmly bought into what McDermott is selling, isn't a move like this something that can truly put these players into the "eff this new coach" mindset? Not in preseason, takes at least 10 games to write off a coaching system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 If the Tank is on TT would be gone too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I honestly thought this was gonna be Sammy's break out year.. too bad it will be for another team Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Sooooo.... after 1 preseason game, the Bills decide to throw in the towel. If I were Kyle W, I would p*ssed and probably announce retirement tomorrow. I kind of see trading Sammy when he has SOME value, but Darby? Trading proven players for draft picks (which is a total lottery) is questionable. Maybe they are stocking draft picks to trade up to no. 1 next year. Boys and gals, it will be another 3 years minimum in the wilderness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 At least Sammy didn't go somewhere with a QB where we'd have to watch him become an all pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Sammy is gone but Vlad Ducasse remains. for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I look at it like this - we were probably far apart on contract talks if there was interest at all. That means a franchise tag, or nothing but a comp pick. Comp pick maxes out at the end of the 3rd and we wouldnt get it until 2019. It's maximizing an asset. Gaines was brought in to allow us to do the darby trade - which brings us a 1year replacement in Matthews, plus a player who may be more likely to sign an extension if he succeeds here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I actually really liked Jordan Matthews coming out of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hated the trade when i heard it, now I'm warming up to it. I don't think this makes us that much less competitive this year. They must have not been 100% on Sammy's health and were probably 100% he wouldn't be here next year. They are all in on next years draft now. As far as EJ Gaines goes. I'm admittly a Mizzou homer but have him seen him play a lot. He's a good CB. Tall, physical, good ball skills and is a tackling machine. He's bigger than Darby, tackles better but isn't quite as athletic. He's a better fit than Darby for the new scheme. Gaines is a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 What's worse? Trading him now or the contract dispute next year? Solid deal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yeah, trading a wr with top 5 ability for a cb with 2 INTs is a great move! Jordan Matthews is not a disaster, learn about him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Charlie Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 draft picks don't mean crap. At least half of the guys they draft will be busts no matter what. I'm just going to tell myself that Sammy is coming back in free agency next year to make myself feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 At least Sammy didn't go somewhere with a QB where we'd have to watch him become an all pro Truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 As I said before they hired McDermott, Pegula doesn't have a clue. That appears to be correct, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 at least we have the Sabres. LOL "BREAKING NEWS: Sabres trade Jack Eichel, Sam Reinhart, Evander Kane, and a 2018 fourth round pick to Montreal for Max Pacioretty and a box of donuts." At this point, would you even be surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I would be shocked to see some serious disdain on the part of the players after McDermott doing something like this.... If the players haven't firmly bought into what McDermott is selling, isn't a move like this something that can truly put these players into the "eff this new coach" mindset? No, because the GM takes the credit/blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 John Murphy is spinning this as best as he can right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Honestly love the moves. Watkins has 1 foot and is fragile as hell. He is not resigning with us anyway so why not trade him now? You are not getting a 1st for him with his injury history. Gives us more ammo next year. Darby, whatever he isn't a difference maker. We are not making the playoffs but it was going to be a long shot with the brutal schedule. This team still has zero depth and the staff isn't hanging on blind hope of trying to squeak into the playoffs only to get manhandled but the real teams. Get a QB in the draft. That is all that matters, like what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I actually really liked Jordan Matthews coming out of the draft. Punish yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I know most are upset but I like these trades. If Sammy does get hurt it will especially look better. I expected 7-9, so this will just get us better picks with 2 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. Yes I know Im in the minority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Can we try and infer what this says about how OBD feels about Tyrod? That many draft picks one could assume we are prepping for something big next draft. Or am I reading too much into this? I essentially said this to my son after we both got over the shock of these trades. All of these picks signal to me that they are loading up to be able to grab a top QB prospect next year. If that is indeed the plan, they had better nail that choice or this franchise will be going on 25 years of no playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Rams are likely going to be pretty bad so that will be a good 2nd round pick Edited August 11, 2017 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I actually really liked Jordan Matthews coming out of the draft. For sure. Great receiver. Not Sammy, but still a great receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts