John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yeah, just ask the Panthers and Colts! after that ask teams like the jags..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 The new regime made a choice at the beginning of the off-season to restructure Tyrod which means that even if Tyrod wasn't a QB they brought in he is a guy they made an affirmative choice on early in the off-season. They aren't trading him this late in the game nor should they. The Bills do not have a better option at starting QB and you could do a lot worse than Tyrod at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 after that ask teams like the jags..... What QB did they take with the #1 pick this decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 The short version: I absolutely think that if McDermott/Dennison like what they see in Peterman, that Tyrod will be the subject of trade talks at some point during the season. I don't even think Peterman has to be great. He just has to show enough. A bit reminiscent of the RGIII - Cousins situation in Washington, but not as messy. How many here would complain, going into the 2018 draft with 3 1st round picks? You would be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I have to believe that Taylor is one of the most under appreciated quarterbacks in Bills history. We just signed him to a below market deal and we have no other viable starting quarterbacks ready to play in 2017. Tyrod has played well in a system that has not emphasized the passing game. A system that worked for Kaepernick and the 49ers with their ground and pound offense. Let's see what Taylor can do in a more quarterback friendly offense (with some healthy passing weapons) before we go shipping him off to another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 maybe after pre-season one of our backups doesn't look too terrible and a starter on another team gets hurt and offers us a 1st rounder for Tyrod. similar to what happend with Bradford and Minnesota. that would be amazing! Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Nah. I'm not the biggest fan of TT's game. But I want to see him in the new offense first before moving on. I think it's easy to think he can be an Alex smith kind of player for this team consistently. I don't think he ever steps up to top 5 to maybe 10 qb. The range you need to be in for the qb to be the reason you are a contender. At that point it's a matter of deciding what you are comfortable with as an organization - consistently a contender for a playoff spot but little else, or throwing the dice and risking a bunch of jobs on a guy that could be much better or much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I have to believe that Taylor is one of the most under appreciated quarterbacks in Bills history. We just signed him to a below market deal and we have no other viable starting quarterbacks ready to play in 2017. Nah it is a deal pretty much in line with other "bridge" QB deals like the one Sam Bradford signed in Philly (that was traded to Minnesota) and the one Glennon just signed in Chicago. What is clear is the Bills don't see Tyrod as any more than a bridge and the open market obviously didn't want to offer him true established starter money because if he and his agent believed that it would then no way he renegotiates here. I agree it is a no brainer to keep him given that he did renegotiate (I thought it was a 50/50 call on the old deal) and he gives us the best chance to win in 2017. I just think the under market value doesn't stack up. If the Bills viewed him as the long term answer they'd have kept him on the old deal or just backloaded the same money... instead they cut his money and knocked 2 years off the contract. I think it's easy to think he can be an Alex smith kind of player for this team consistently. I don't think he ever steps up to top 5 to maybe 10 qb. The range you need to be in for the qb to be the reason you are a contender. At that point it's a matter of deciding what you are comfortable with as an organization - consistently a contender for a playoff spot but little else, or throwing the dice and risking a bunch of jobs on a guy that could be much better or much worse That is why I think the ideal is take a shot while you still have a Tyrod or an Alex Smith..... so long as they are on manageable deals that doesn't kill your cap long term if you do get a guy you like and think is ready and so decide to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 If we weren't willing to tag & trade Gilmore, then they aren't going to trade Tyrod after giving him all that money. Just doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Why did the re-sign him then? He has a winning record as a starter. If you are trying to tank just let him walk and play Peterman/Cardale. My point exactly... They are paying TT 15 million for no reason? If they wanted to "tank" they should have named Cardale the starter and used that 5th rd pick on a player other than a QB with a reputed weak arm as well... Tanking is for losers What is finishing 7-9 every year if not losing/losers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMexBills Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 No way trade TyGod, he will beast this year just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The short version: I absolutely think that if McDermott/Dennison like what they see in Peterman, that Tyrod will be the subject of trade talks at some point during the season. I don't even think Peterman has to be great. He just has to show enough. A bit reminiscent of the RGIII - Cousins situation in Washington, but not as messy. How many here would complain, going into the 2018 draft with 3 1st round picks? So McDermott, who reportedly clashed with Whaley over dumping Taylor because he wanted to win now, will trade him away and start a rookie? But I will say if someone dangled a 1st round pick for Tyrod, I'd be tempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 So McDermott, who reportedly clashed with Whaley over dumping Taylor because he wanted to win now, will trade him away and start a rookie? But I will say if someone dangled a 1st round pick for Tyrod, I'd be tempted. I'd do that in a heartbeat. It won't happen, but it'd be a great opportunity for a turnaround in B-lo. We could do what Cleveland did with RG3. Bring him in to pretend we are trying to compete, but tank hard. Then take a top QB prospect with our pick and still have two more 1st round picks to build up the roster. 2017 would suck, but we'd be on our way up as Brady and Belichick head to retirement. There'd be a lot of fun years in the horizon if they executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 So McDermott, who reportedly clashed with Whaley over dumping Taylor because he wanted to win now, will trade him away and start a rookie? But I will say if someone dangled a 1st round pick for Tyrod, I'd be tempted. Trading Tyrod would be hinged on 2 things. IF Peterman shows that he can effectively run Dennison's offense and IF there is a team that is willing to part with a 1st rounder for Tyrod, then yes to your original question. I like Tyrod and fully expect him to lead this team all season, but the trade possibility, I think, is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Trading Tyrod would be hinged on 2 things. IF Peterman shows that he can effectively run Dennison's offense and IF there is a team that is willing to part with a 1st rounder for Tyrod, then yes to your original question. I like Tyrod and fully expect him to lead this team all season, but the trade possibility, I think, is real. I don't disagree with this at all. IF (big if) the Bills are considering trading him an offseason injury will probably come into play. Arizona always jumps out at me. Bradford got a 1st and 4th (I think) in a similar situation. It will have to be a team that is pretty good with a QB nearing the end. The Chargers, Saints, Giants and Steelers are probably the other possibilities (but longshots). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I don't disagree with this at all. IF (big if) the Bills are considering trading him an offseason injury will probably come into play. Arizona always jumps out at me. Bradford got a 1st and 4th (I think) in a similar situation. It will have to be a team that is pretty good with a QB nearing the end. The Chargers, Saints, Giants and Steelers are probably the other possibilities (but longshots). It was a 4th that became a 3rd if he started in the NFC Championship and became a 2nd if he won the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 With the QB crop coming up in the next draft, the Bills will have to have a very bad w/l record next year to get a chance at one of them. Two picks in the 20's isn't going to work. I'd definitely be up for trading Tyrod for a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Trading Tyrod would be hinged on 2 things. IF Peterman shows that he can effectively run Dennison's offense and IF there is a team that is willing to part with a 1st rounder for Tyrod, then yes to your original question. I like Tyrod and fully expect him to lead this team all season, but the trade possibility, I think, is real. if things worked out this way, i could get on board with a trade as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 My point exactly... They are paying TT 15 million for no reason? If they wanted to "tank" they should have named Cardale the starter and used that 5th rd pick on a player other than a QB with a reputed weak arm as well... What is finishing 7-9 every year if not losing/losers? middle of the pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Tyrod he will maintain too many drives with his escapability, make too many big plays and limit disastrous turnovers The horror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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