Cripple Creek Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 He has shifty eyes. Anyone else notice? I'm not sure he can be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm not too worried yet. For one, McDermott already made changes when he went from the Eagles to the Panthers mostly in that he moved from exotic blitz packages to more of the pure single gap pressure system in the linemen. Considering how much we see Brady rip up blitzes, I can't fault him too much. As for the cornerbacks, let's be honest: we do need more. We have Darby and Seymour and not much else. We're looking at more of zone corners, so that will probably help. What to watch for is Dennison. I really hope he doesn't switch our power man and zone run blocking up to do only zone run blocking. That would be a disaster. Actually, Jeff Ratcliffe did a breakdown of a lot of the different run concept that teams ran. Nearly half of the run plays last year were inside or outside zones, compared to something like 13% power. Yes, Roman installed a hybrid system but Lynn called a lot more zone runs once he took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm not too worried yet. For one, McDermott already made changes when he went from the Eagles to the Panthers mostly in that he moved from exotic blitz packages to more of the pure single gap pressure system in the linemen. Considering how much we see Brady rip up blitzes, I can't fault him too much. As for the cornerbacks, let's be honest: we do need more. We have Darby and Seymour and not much else. We're looking at more of zone corners, so that will probably help. Actually, Jeff Ratcliffe did a breakdown of a lot of the different run concept that teams ran. Nearly half of the run plays last year were inside or outside zones, compared to something like 13% power. Yes, Roman installed a hybrid system but Lynn called a lot more zone runs once he took over. Good post brah! My initial gut sense for this season after this coaching staff was hired is that two things were going to happen - 1) The Bills defense would get much, much better against the run - pretty much immediately 2) The Bills offense would be much more balanced with running plays and passing plays than it has been for 2 years - which I expect to be a good thing My biggest fear is whether the defense will be able to defend a passing attack effectively. Really looking forward to finding out how good (or not) this Bills team is going to be. Hope McDermott is the next "great" and "legendary" NFL head coach who changes the game because he is better than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 One thing that hit me today - Don't know why I didn't realize this sooner: Sean McDermott is a system guy. Sounds like he has his mind made up that he has to run his defensive system. I know some other coaches who think that way. One of them just got fired from the Bills last season. I guess McDermott is not the type of coach, nor probably has the experience to do so, who can take another team's defensive personnel and create the defense to best fit that personnel. Bummer. That is my first knock against the guy. But it is a significant one. Hope he gets the guys to fit his system. Not the type of coach I really wanted though. So far I like everything else about the guy that I have heard. But a guy stuck on his own system has me very concerned. Your opinions? I agree that it's way too early to know what we have in McD. But concerns over signs of inflexibility are reasonable. Still, we don't know what's driving his scheme or his changes. Is it the only way he knows how to scheme defense? Is he trying to maximize mismatched talent on the roster and move the roster to a more coherent and cost effective group? Is he reacting to the current NFL offensive systems and rules? Rex was the worst possible combination. He was totally stupidly inflexible and totally committed to a system that no longer worked in the NFL. McD certainly has run better systems for today's league. IIRC I read that his systems have been more Cover 3 and Cover 2 focused at different times. That's a good sign that there's at least some flexibility with him. While it is never good to see a young, highly productive player leave, I do understand the Bills letting Gilmore walk. They can get what they need out of their CBs for a lot less than what a player of his age and skill set demands. My head will be up, but I'll give McD the benefit of doubt on this for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 his coaching style is obviously terrible - he hasn't won a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Beli, Carol... system guys. They all are to some degree. Have to be. The question is how adaptive the system is to work around the talent changes. Yep. You can't invent a new offense or defense every year. You have to have some scheme or system in mind. Football - at the NFL level - is an intricate, sophisticated game. Coordinators often evolve and refine their systems for decades. Though some will prove themselves to be more "adaptive" (perfect word) than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 He has shifty eyes. Anyone else notice? I'm not sure he can be trusted. left foot... right foot... ...twitch of the eyes... ...lifts the cap up real slow... ...new sheriff in town... ...goes by the name McDermott... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 What to watch for is Dennison. I really hope he doesn't switch our power man and zone run blocking up to do only zone run blocking. That would be a disaster. We just don't know. It feels like we should be better with The Ryan Brothers gone but this whole team is learning a new system. We've seen this enough to know it takes at least half a season to get on the same page. Looking at the schedule with my son this morning , I could make the case for an 8-8 season but have a suspicion it could be considerably less but not more. Hope McD has what it takes to HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 left foot... right foot... ...twitch of the eyes... ...lifts the cap up real slow... ...new sheriff in town... ...goes by the name McDermott... I can see this being turned into a movie. For the sake of clarity, Dermot Mulroney, who is often mistaken for Dylan McDermott, could play the part of Sean McDermott. Dylan McDermott, who is often mistaken for Dermot Mulroney, could be cast in the role of Sean McDermott's split personality that appears when he looks in the mirror and berates his love of character, organization, and process and second guesses everything that the Dermot Mulroney personality does... almost as a metaphor for TBN. I could see this cleaning up at Sundance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I can see this being turned into a movie. For the sake of clarity, Dermot Mulroney, who is often mistaken for Dylan McDermott, could play the part of Sean McDermott. Dylan McDermott, who is often mistaken for Dermot Mulroney, could be cast in the role of Sean McDermott's split personality that appears when he looks in the mirror and berates his love of character, organization, and process and second guesses everything that the Dermot Mulroney personality does... almost as a metaphor for TBN. I could see this cleaning up at Sundance. Bravo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) One thing that hit me today - Don't know why I didn't realize this sooner: Sean McDermott is a system guy. Sounds like he has his mind made up that he has to run his defensive system. I know some other coaches who think that way. One of them just got fired from the Bills last season. I guess McDermott is not the type of coach, nor probably has the experience to do so, who can take another team's defensive personnel and create the defense to best fit that personnel. Bummer. That is my first knock against the guy. But it is a significant one. Hope he gets the guys to fit his system. Not the type of coach I really wanted though. So far I like everything else about the guy that I have heard. But a guy stuck on his own system has me very concerned. Your opinions? When you hire a newby, all they know is what they know. as I've said all along... 3 more years of suck. Roster redo follows coaching re do. Takes at least 3 years to get the roster/scheme fit right if all goes well and the coach isn't fired after year 2. And with Lal gone, so is Sammy. Put that into your calculus. A Lynn was to only choice that would have led to some continuity. Now its all blown up again. CBA limits practice time severely for a new staff. 3 more years of suck. Then it all starts over again. Enjoy the tailgates, that's about all you got for awhile..... Edited April 21, 2017 by jmcraig44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 When you hire a newby, all they know is what they know. as I've said all along... 3 more years of suck. Roster redo follows coaching re do. Takes at least 3 years to get the roster/scheme fit right if all goes well and the coach isn't fired after year 2. And with Lal gone, so is Sammy. Put that into your calculus. A Lynn was to only choice that would have led to some continuity. Now its all blown up again. 3 more years of suck. Then it all starts over again. Enjoy the tailgates, that's about all you got for awhile..... I don't feel like its blown up at all, D needs fixing and the O gets a better system to work out of with Taylor still QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 When you hire a newby, all they know is what they know. as I've said all along... 3 more years of suck. Roster redo follows coaching re do. Takes at least 3 years to get the roster/scheme fit right if all goes well and the coach isn't fired after year 2. And with Lal gone, so is Sammy. Put that into your calculus. A Lynn was to only choice that would have led to some continuity. Now its all blown up again. CBA limits practice time severely for a new staff. 3 more years of suck. Then it all starts over again. Enjoy the tailgates, that's about all you got for awhile..... Not this negative.... yet but the potential of this being true exists😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 his coaching style is obviously terrible - he hasn't won a single game.Well, the fact that the Bills hired him is certainly a red flag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 We won't know a thing about McD's coaching style until we see him doing some actual coaching. Xs and Os, systems and the type of player that fits them all speak to what he coaches, not how he coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 We won't know a thing about McD's coaching style until we see him doing some actual coaching. Xs and Os, systems and the type of player that fits them all speak to what he coaches, not how he coaches. Game management, clock management, challenge flags, half time adjustments...... etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Well, the fact that the Bills hired him is certainly a red flag... I think McDermott looks like a young guy in the good old boy's club. Marrone, Mularkey, McDermott. You don't need to be a genius. If he gets elite talent his D will work, if he doesn't it will fail. Let's see if he marries Tyrod. If he does we will be looking for his replacement soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Game management, clock management, challenge flags, half time adjustments...... etc I was thinking more in terms interpersonal relationships, imparting knowledge, etc., but everything you mention are a huge part of the equation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Yep. You can't invent a new offense or defense every year. You have to have some scheme or system in mind. Football - at the NFL level - is an intricate, sophisticated game. Coordinators often evolve and refine their systems for decades. Though some will prove themselves to be more "adaptive" (perfect word) than others. https://www.google.com/amp/nesn.com/2016/10/patriots-multiple-alignments-are-keeping-all-front-seven-defenders-happy/amp/ FOXBORO, Mass. The New England Patriots defense changes on a play-to-play basis, but Bill Belichick is making sure hes not putting too much on the plates of his players. The same cant be said for the opposing offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 in all fairness, he is still winless And undefeated ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) in all fairness, he is still winless And undefeated ... Edited April 21, 2017 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 He is the complete opposite of a system. Absolutely the opposite. He repeatedly says in interviews he changes to pick the players, and to get the best out of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) left foot... right foot... ...twitch of the eyes... ...lifts the cap up real slow... ...new sheriff in town... ...goes by the name McDermott... ....we certainly have had Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Abbott, Costello, Laurel & Hardy on the sidelines...me thinks that our "Harry Callahan" has arrived....stay tuned...."go ahead....make my day...punk..."........... Edited April 21, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 We should fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Don't believe anything you hear in pre-draft media sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 We should fire him. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 He obviously says "process" way too often.[/quote You can never have too much process. obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 He reminds me of Jim Tressel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Well, if he can count to eleven, it will be a step up from the last group. 10-6 baby !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 He reminds me of Jim Tressel NOT without the sweater vest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 One thing that hit me today - Don't know why I didn't realize this sooner: Sean McDermott is a system guy. Sounds like he has his mind made up that he has to run his defensive system. I know some other coaches who think that way. One of them just got fired from the Bills last season. I guess McDermott is not the type of coach, nor probably has the experience to do so, who can take another team's defensive personnel and create the defense to best fit that personnel. Bummer. That is my first knock against the guy. But it is a significant one. Hope he gets the guys to fit his system. Not the type of coach I really wanted though. So far I like everything else about the guy that I have heard. But a guy stuck on his own system has me very concerned. Your opinions? Sounds good but we will have to see how it all works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 NOT without the sweater vest! blah now the vest reminds me of Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 He is the complete opposite of a system. Absolutely the opposite. He repeatedly says in interviews he changes to pick the players, and to get the best out of them But he clearly prefers zone and has a certain type of player for each position. That said I think he is smart enough to adjust if he doesn't get all the toys he needs but eventually we will have a defense with big DTs and small athletic LBs and zone secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) His teams did better in yards per game. 6 of his 8 years his defenses finished worst than the Rob Ryan/Rex Ryan defense of the Bills last year in points given up. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/McDeSe0.htm Edited April 22, 2017 by jeffismagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I think most NFL coaches are that way. You rarely hear of a 3-4 guy switching to a 4-3, or vice-versa. I don't think it matters all that much because our D-Line is better for a 4-3. We had little depth in the secondary so that didn't matter. Probably hurts most with linebackers. Ragland and P Brown look a bit out of place. Bellycheat did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Bellycheat did Yes, Bill B can switch his defense up every week. It comes down to how you build your team. Patriots favor intelligence and versatility in draft picks allowing Bill to change things up and attack opponent weak spots. Seattle drafts size/speed/power guys and lets them loose in a simple scheme where instincts take over and less game planning. Bills need to follow Seattle model as our players are not drafted for football IQ. That's why Rex's schemes were a failure here. I think Rex needed Belichick style players like he had in NY(Mangini) in order to run his complex schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 blah now the vest reminds me of Rex I am soooooo sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I don't get that vibe from him at all. All coaches have a system, obviously. But he's said on numerous occasions that he plans to fit the scheme around the natural talents of his players. Jerry Hughes just said yesterday it's a defense tailored to the strengths of his players. To me, he's a polar opposite of Rex who believed so heavily in his scheme that it's cost him his last two jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) This doesn't really relate to the specifics of to op, but I feel like McDermott is the end of a long journey for us, He's not going to be a 3 or 5 year coach. This is our coach for the next 10 -20. He's dedifucated to his craft. Incredibly hard worker. Smart and gets it. He's our Belichick. I'm stoked. Edited April 22, 2017 by Success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_Bills Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 This doesn't really relate to the specifics of to op, but I feel like McDermott is the end of a long journey for us, He's not going to be a 3 or 5 year coach. This is our coach for the next 10 -20. He's dedifucated to his craft. Incredibly hard worker. Smart and gets it. He's our Belichick. I'm stoked. I hope you are right (although personally I'd have stayed away from the Belichick comparison) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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