Bills Expected To Select QB in First 2 Rounds says Rival GM

[jeffismagic]

"Matt Miller added the rival GM's quote in his report. The GM believes Doug Whaley will target Clemson QB Deshaun Watson.

"They'll draft one in the first two rounds," said the anonymous GM, "and if I had to pick it'd be [Deshaun] Watson based on what [Doug Whaley] likes and how he thinks."

Watson is expected to be one of the first quarterbacks selected in the 2017 NFL draft. Many draft analysts believe Watson will be a first round pick so if he's the quarterback that Whaley covets, Buffalo would likely have to use the tenth overall pick in the draft on the QB."

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/02/rival_gm_expects_buffalo_bills_to_draft_qb_in_first_two_rounds_says_matt_miller.html

Edited February 11, 2017 by jeffismagic

[CSBill]

Although I would rather keep TT, if he is released, I would roll the dice with Watson if he's there at 10. I'm a sucker for athletic QB that can do things with their feet as well as their arms.

 

My gut feeling is, he will be over-drafted by another equally desperate team before the Bills have the opportunity to be desperate at 10..

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

Good! Take a shot.

[DriveFor1Outta5]

Although I would rather keep TT, if he is released, I would roll the dice with Watson if he's there at 10. I'm a sucker for athletic QB that can do things with their feet as well as their arms.

 

My gut feeling is, he will be over-drafted by another equally desperate team before the Bills have the opportunity to be desperate at 10..

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someone does reach for him before he gets to us. The guy who just won his fifth championship had a scouting report that said "unathletic". That is my fear with Watson. He looks great in college because he is "athletic" but the idea of Watson being our franchise doesn't fill me with confidence. The QB is the face/CEO of your franchise I'm not putting that into the hands of a guy who tweets "got that money on my mind, it's on my mental". You need leadership from the QB position in the pros. It's the same reason I wouldn't want Winston,Manziel,Chad Kelly, and anyone of that sort. Do Brady,Brees,Wilson,Ryan,or Prescott tweet money bag emojis? I read their tweets to confirm the answer and it's no. Edited February 11, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5

[DallasMac]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someone does reach for him before he gets to us. The guy who just won his fifth IPchampionship had a scouting report that said "unathletic". That is my fear with Watson. He looks great in college because he is "athletic" but the idea of Watson being our franchise doesn't fill me with confidence. The QB is the face/CEO of your franchise I'm not putting that into the hands of a guy who tweets "got that money on my mind, it's on my mental". You need leadership from the QB position in the pros. It's the same reason I wouldn't want Winston,Manziel,Chad Kelly, and anyone of that sort. Do Brady,Brees,Wilson,Ryan,or Prescott tweet money bag emojis? I read their tweets to confirm the answer and it's no.

Not that I disagree with you but what's better. Tweeting about getting paid or getting a dui months before getting drafted?

[DriveFor1Outta5]

Not that I disagree with you but what's better. Tweeting about getting paid or getting a dui months before getting drafted?

Very true. I forgot that it occurred so close to the draft. I incorrectly remembered the DUI early in his college career. I probably would have passed on him like so many others did had I known that. I know everyone has wants to create a bust in Canton for Prescott, but in reality the jury is still out as to the kind of career he will have. Lots of great QB's are arrogant and not always the nicest people. However, I like to avoid guys with off field drama and guys who are more concerned with being stars than playing QB.

[DallasMac]

I think Prescott has a long, successful career ahead of him. Sucks we missed out but so did 31 other teams for three rounds. I know it's deemed a weak class but I really think if we get Trubisky or Watson we will be set.

Edited February 11, 2017 by DallasMac

[3rdand12]

be just like Whaley to get all antsy and "reach " trade up for Watson

[Chuck Wagon]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someone does reach for him before he gets to us. The guy who just won his fifth championship had a scouting report that said "unathletic". That is my fear with Watson. He looks great in college because he is "athletic" but the idea of Watson being our franchise doesn't fill me with confidence. The QB is the face/CEO of your franchise I'm not putting that into the hands of a guy who tweets "got that money on my mind, it's on my mental". You need leadership from the QB position in the pros. It's the same reason I wouldn't want Winston,Manziel,Chad Kelly, and anyone of that sort. Do Brady,Brees,Wilson,Ryan,or Prescott tweet money bag emojis? I read their tweets to confirm the answer and it's no.

 

 

I don't mean to pick on you, but the coded language with black QBs (ie "athletic") is incredibly tiring. We get it, people want a 6'5" white QB with a laser rocket arm and a 4.7 GPA who won 4 championships in a "professional" scheme in college. Watson has a tendency to get lazy on his footwork and make some unadvised throws, but everyone around him raves about his intangibles, he can make plays with his legs, but there's a huge difference between how he plays the game and how Vince Young or Michael Vick played it in college. Watson has come up huge against the best defenses he could see at the college level (Alabama twice and OSU), outside of some of his sloppiness, there's plenty of reason to like him as a prospect.

Edited February 11, 2017 by Chuck Wagon

[DriveFor1Outta5]

 

 

I don't mean to pick on you, but the coded language with black QBs (ie "athletic") is incredibly tiring. We get it, people want a 6'5" white QB with a laser rocket arm and a 4.7 GPA who won 4 championships in a "professional" scheme in college. Watson has a tendency to get lazy on his footwork and make some unadvised throws, but everyone around him raves about his intangibles, he can make plays with his legs, but there's a huge difference between how he plays the game and how Vince Young or Michael Vick played it in college. Watson has come up huge against the best defenses he could see at the college level (Alabama twice and OSU), outside of some of his sloppiness, there's plenty of reason to like him as a prospect.

I don't like that Watson is talking about money with moneybag emoticons. It's a character issue to me, and apparently one we're not allowed to have without it turning political.

[YoloinOhio]

This seems obvious (to me). Whether Watson or someone else. Only way they don't is if they feel Cardale is the guy, or if they somehow acquire a young franchise QB before the draft.

 

The one funny thing about this is "Rival GM"... who would that be, Tannenbaum? The Jets guy? Only two rivals I can think of. And they would clearly have a motive for wanting this out there, true or not.

[Chuck Wagon]

I don't like that Watson is talking about money with moneybag emoticons. It's a character issue to me, and apparently one we're not allowed to have without it turning political.

 

He's gotten rave reviews about his intangibles but you don't like one emoji and suddenly he's got the baggage of Jameis or Manziel.

[Mark80]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someone does reach for him before he gets to us. The guy who just won his fifth championship had a scouting report that said "unathletic". That is my fear with Watson. He looks great in college because he is "athletic" but the idea of Watson being our franchise doesn't fill me with confidence. The QB is the face/CEO of your franchise I'm not putting that into the hands of a guy who tweets "got that money on my mind, it's on my mental". You need leadership from the QB position in the pros. It's the same reason I wouldn't want Winston,Manziel,Chad Kelly, and anyone of that sort. Do Brady,Brees,Wilson,Ryan,or Prescott tweet money bag emojis? I read their tweets to confirm the answer and it's no.

 

If you don't think Watson is a good leader then you have not been paying attention at all to his college career. His teammates and coaches rave about him, his work ethic, leadership skills. He has not had any off field issues at all and is polished and articulate in interviews. A tweet is what turns you off? Give me a break. He is a completely different person than Winston, Manziel, and Kelly and all of their legitimate off field concerns.

[Chuck Wagon]

 

If you don't think Watson is a good leader then you have not been paying attention at all to his college career. His teammates and coaches rave about him, his work ethic, leadership skills. He has not had any off field issues at all and is polished and articulate in interviews. A tweet is what turns you off? Give me a break. He is a completely different person than Winston, Manziel, and Kelly and all of their legitimate off field concerns.

 

 

Thank you. There's legitimate reasons to knock him like I mentioned before, he's got some sloppy footwork at times and tries to force some balls, especially when Clemson clearly had teams "out talented". But the guy came up huge in huge moments his entire career and anyone who came in contact with him raved about him. The original post I responded to was a coded way of saying "a young black man makes me uncomfortable, he doesn't look like Tom Brady", it's not getting political to call people out on lazy BS.

[DriveFor1Outta5]

 

If you don't think Watson is a good leader then you have not been paying attention at all to his college career. His teammates and coaches rave about him, his work ethic, leadership skills. He has not had any off field issues at all and is polished and articulate in interviews. A tweet is what turns you off? Give me a break. He is a completely different person than Winston, Manziel, and Kelly and all of their legitimate off field concerns.

That's fine. I never said he isn't a great guy. I just worry that he could be concerned with style over substance. The guy has done nothing but win at Clemson, and he deserves credit for it. I just don't like the face of my franchise bragging about how he's about to cash in.

 

 

Thank you. There's legitimate reasons to knock him like I mentioned before, he's got some sloppy footwork at times and tries to force some balls, especially when Clemson clearly had teams "out talented". But the guy came up huge in huge moments his entire career and anyone who came in contact with him raved about him. The original post I responded to was a coded way of saying "a young black man makes me uncomfortable, he doesn't look like Tom Brady", it's not getting political to call people out on lazy BS.

It's political, you know nothing about my life to throw that kind of crap at me. You are right, a QB who displays some of his traits make me uncomfortable that we won't win a championship. I do in fact do want my QB to look like Brady or Wilson as far as demeanor and play style. I want a QB that has traits championship QB's have. Edited February 11, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5

[bobobonators]

Although I would rather keep TT, if he is released, I would roll the dice with Watson if he's there at 10. I'm a sucker for athletic QB that can do things with their feet as well as their arms.

 

My gut feeling is, he will be over-drafted by another equally desperate team before the Bills have the opportunity to be desperate at 10..

If we are to let go of TT then yeh we def need a QB in this draft in first 2rds. But id rather trade down from where we are.

[3rdand12]

If we are to let go of TT then yeh we def need a QB in this draft in first 2rds. But id rather trade down from where we are.

this is certainly part of the equation. I would be delighted to have a trade down and fill some gaps.

Dire need at Safety and WR this coming season

[Jjattack72]

This draft offers very little in the way of true blue chip NFL caliber QBs. Rather than waste a 1st or 2nd round pick on a wing and a prayer, DW and SM need to find a way to swing a deal for Jimmy G. He is the next franchise QB in waiting and doesnt come with all the baggage. Give up 1st two rounds ++ and cut ties with TT. Use the extra cap space to go get Alshon J and give the fans something to get excited about.

[3rdand12]

This draft offers very little in the way of true blue chip NFL caliber QBs. Rather than waste a 1st or 2nd round pick on a wing and a prayer, DW and SM need to find a way to swing a deal for Jimmy G. He is the next franchise QB in waiting and doesnt come with all the baggage. Give up 1st two rounds ++ and cut ties with TT. Use the extra cap space to go get Alshon J and give the fans something to get excited about.

Not too far left thinking. I mean its high risk, but worth a pondering !

[johnnychemo]

 

 

I don't mean to pick on you, but the coded language with black QBs (ie "athletic") is incredibly tiring. We get it, people want a 6'5" white QB with a laser rocket arm and a 4.7 GPA who won 4 championships in a "professional" scheme in college. Watson has a tendency to get lazy on his footwork and make some unadvised throws, but everyone around him raves about his intangibles, he can make plays with his legs, but there's a huge difference between how he plays the game and how Vince Young or Michael Vick played it in college. Watson has come up huge against the best defenses he could see at the college level (Alabama twice and OSU), outside of some of his sloppiness, there's plenty of reason to like him as a prospect.

Maybe that's your code, but when I hear "athletic" I think of a QB who'll tuck it and run or extend the play with his legs. Frank Tarkenton, Steve Young, Rothlisberger are just a few who don't fit YOUR stereotype.

 

Personally, the guy can be a smurf with a laser rocket arm and 4.7 (though I'd take 4.6) GPA w/ 4 championships in a pro scheme - I want a winner, don't much care what he looks like!

[aristocrat]

gosh i'd love to be able to just stick at 10 and grab watson i just don't think he's there. i'd consider giving up next years first to move up to get him but i don't want to give up a 2nd this year. still have holes to fill.

[CommonCents]

gosh i'd love to be able to just stick at 10 and grab watson i just don't think he's there. i'd consider giving up next years first to move up to get him but i don't want to give up a 2nd this year. still have holes to fill.

Doug please pack your belongings you have lost your mind.

[Chuck Wagon]

Maybe that's your code, but when I hear "athletic" I think of a QB who'll tuck it and run or extend the play with his legs. Frank Tarkenton, Steve Young, Rothlisberger are just a few who don't fit YOUR stereotype.

 

Personally, the guy can be a smurf with a laser rocket arm and 4.7 (though I'd take 4.6) GPA w/ 4 championships in a pro scheme - I want a winner, don't much care what he looks like!

 

 

When someone brushes off a player like Watson as simply an "athletic" QB it becomes pretty clear pretty quickly they haven't watched him play much and are judging a book by it's cover. He was 3rd in passing yards in college football last year. The same lazy criticisms were thrown at Jameis. You won't get a bigger winner than Watson in this class.

 

I've covered it sufficiently. There are things to not like in his tape. But simply comparing him to Tyrod or saying he primarily looks to make plays with his legs makes it pretty clear someone hasn't watched him play. Comparing him to Jameis or Manziel off the field makes it painfully obvious someone knows very little about what's been said by those who know him.

[Mark Vader]

Dear God, I hope that is just speculation, or that it's all a big smokescreen from the Bills front office.

 

I do not want a QB from this draft.

[White Linen]

Dear God, I hope that is just speculation, or that it's all a big smokescreen from the Bills front office.

 

I do not want a QB from this draft.

 

I wanted Dak from last years draft after watching him play this year.

[Maury Ballstein]

Emojis and red hats are the kiss of death.

[Mr. WEO]

 

"Matt Miller added the rival GM's quote in his report. The GM believes Doug Whaley will target Clemson QB Deshaun Watson.

"They'll draft one in the first two rounds," said the anonymous GM, "and if I had to pick it'd be [Deshaun] Watson based on what [Doug Whaley] likes and how he thinks."

Watson is expected to be one of the first quarterbacks selected in the 2017 NFL draft. Many draft analysts believe Watson will be a first round pick so if he's the quarterback that Whaley covets, Buffalo would likely have to use the tenth overall pick in the draft on the QB."

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/02/rival_gm_expects_buffalo_bills_to_draft_qb_in_first_two_rounds_says_matt_miller.html

 

 

Well, he doesn't covet the white QBs!

[Jamie Nails]

 

I wanted Dak from last years draft after watching him play this year.

Ha. Bingo

[White Linen]

Emojis and red hats are the kiss of death.

 

There's no way were going back to the red helmets, period!

[Beef Jerky]

Trying is better then not trying.

[CanadianFan]

Bills will draft a QB - that's a given since EJ is gone and Cardale is a long shot, unless they find another QB elsewhere. ESPECIALLY IF TT is kept on as QB since his durability is suspect. As for the round number, I think that's where the games of draft begins.

[4merper4mer]

be just like Whaley to get all antsy and "reach " trade up for Watson

My favorite if when we get mad at Whaley for something he hasn't even done. It's awesome.

[joemac]

 

There's no way were going back to the red helmets, period!

What color were the helmets the last the Bills went to the playoffs?

[PromoTheRobot]

There's no news coming out of OBD so we just dig stuff up from wherever.

[Webster Guy]

Swap Gilmore's money for alshon jeffrey and keeping woods, restructure TT, draft best safety available in 1st (hooker pls) Mahomes qb in 2nd, another Cb and best kicker avail in 4th. Somewhere in the late rounds please find a freaking punt/kick return specialist.

 

Thats a good draft. Mahomes will need a year or two to be ready.

[H2o]

Swap Gilmore's money for alshon jeffrey and keeping woods, restructure TT, draft best safety available in 1st (hooker pls) Mahomes qb in 2nd, another Cb and best kicker avail in 4th. Somewhere in the late rounds please find a freaking punt/kick return specialist.

 

Thats a good draft. Mahomes will need a year or two to be ready.

Nice thought, but TT said he isn't restructuring and Woods is gonna get 8 or 9 mill on the open market. We can't afford him and Jeffrey as well as fill out the rest of the roster. We still need a RT also.

[biggerdaddynj]

Mike Mayock on drafting QB in top 10 this year: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000784491/article/mayock-id-be-scared-to-death-to-draft-qb-in-top-10-this-year

 

And, he's one of the few "experts" most people seem to respect--FWIW...

[NastyNateSoldiers]

gosh i'd love to be able to just stick at 10 and grab watson i just don't think he's there. i'd consider giving up next years first to move up to get him but i don't want to give up a 2nd this year. still have holes to fill.

U would give up an extra first for a kid that has thrown 30pks over last 2yrs..

[ALF]

fwiw Daniel Jeremiah has the Bills taking Watson at #10

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/335600

 

Dabo Swinney: Browns not drafting Deshaun Watson like passing on Michael Jordan

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2017/01/24/deshaun-watson-dabo-swinney-michael-jordan-cleveland-browns-nfl-draft/97015708/

Edited February 12, 2017 by ALF

[GunnerBill]

Mike Mayock on drafting QB in top 10 this year: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000784491/article/mayock-id-be-scared-to-death-to-draft-qb-in-top-10-this-year

 

And, he's one of the few "experts" most people seem to respect--FWIW...

He is. But he sais Wentz and Goff were better prospects than Winston and Mariota this time last year. So he isn't perfect. I agree with him there is no elite QB prospect here... but I think Watson is a better prospect than the two Mayock was so high on last April.